DUST Search - To Everyone Who Keeps Asking For Respecs

Maken Tosch wrote:

source:
www.dust514.com/support petition system.

The following is a cookie-cutter reply to everyone who filed a petiton for the FINAL respec back in May of 2013.

Quote:

Posted at 17.05.2013 17:04 by GM Grave
Hello,

This response is being sent to all users who have filed a support ticket in order to request a skill respec.

We would like to acknowledge receipt of your skill respect request and inform you that we have now flagged your account for a skill respec .

The skill respec will be applied to your characters in the coming days once we have completed and deployed changes to the skill tree. This one time respec will remove and refund all ISK and skill points that have been applied to date. Please ensure that due care is taken when spending skills and ISK as we will be unable to reverse ISK/SP spending in future.

If you wish to discuss issues that have not been addressed in this skill respec response, or believe you have received this message in error then please respond to this support ticket and we will attempt to address your issue.

Please accept my sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Please note that if you are receiving this message you are currently in a queue for a skill respec. Eligible customers who may have been misfiled and would like to request an Aurum account reset should respond to this ticket clarifying their request.

Regards,
Lead GM Grave
CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514

No more respecs are coming. At least not the FULL respecs.

The only kind of SP refund you might get are partial ones such as when they remove skill books that you invested in or reduced the SP cost of the skill books. Practically, just like how they did it with their Eve Online skill tree. To this day, after ten years, Eve Online still undergoes constant rebalancing of the ships and skill books and so far NO FULL respecs were handed out since 2003 which was supposedly the last time a respec was ever handed out.

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4216	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:24:00 - [1] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: source: www.dust514.com/support petition system. The following is a cookie-cutter reply to everyone who filed a petiton for the FINAL respec back in May of 2013. Quote: Posted at 17.05.2013 17:04 by GM Grave Hello, This response is being sent to all users who have filed a support ticket in order to request a skill respec. We would like to acknowledge receipt of your skill respect request and inform you that we have now flagged your account for a skill respec . The skill respec will be applied to your characters in the coming days once we have completed and deployed changes to the skill tree. This one time respec will remove and refund all ISK and skill points that have been applied to date. Please ensure that due care is taken when spending skills and ISK as we will be unable to reverse ISK/SP spending in future. If you wish to discuss issues that have not been addressed in this skill respec response, or believe you have received this message in error then please respond to this support ticket and we will attempt to address your issue. Please accept my sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Please note that if you are receiving this message you are currently in a queue for a skill respec. Eligible customers who may have been misfiled and would like to request an Aurum account reset should respond to this ticket clarifying their request. Regards, Lead GM Grave CCP Customer Relations \| EVE Online \| DUST 514 No more respecs are coming. At least not the FULL respecs. The only kind of SP refund you might get are partial ones such as when they remove skill books that you invested in or reduced the SP cost of the skill books. Practically, just like how they did it with their Eve Online skill tree. To this day, after ten years, Eve Online still undergoes constant rebalancing of the ships and skill books and so far NO FULL respecs were handed out since 2003 which was supposedly the last time a respec was ever handed out. Note: I understand that the EULA doesn't permit posting personal correspondences in the forums. However, it appears that cookie-cutter replies that have been sent out in mass such as the one above are ok to post. So far I have not been warned by any of the GMs and I have not been banned at this point after posting this repeatedly since May 2013. If this is not allowed, GMs please let me know.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6314	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:26:00 - [2] - Quote It's funny how this is obviously something many players want. We will get a respec system, especially if the game doesn't pick up in popularity come christmas / if the PS4 puts a serious hurt on the game. Gotta keep us in somehow.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4216	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:32:00 - [3] - Quote @Dust We'll let the council of planetary management decide on that. Especially once the elections are implemented.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6317	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:33:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: @Dust We'll let the council of planetary management decide on that. Especially once the elections are implemented. I'm not worried about relying on CPM for a vital feature like that. I'll let dwindling sales do that as vets run out of reasons to buy AUR, and noobs put down the game because vets are stomping the **** out of them and advancement is slower than a one legged turtle in a pool of molasses
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4216	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:39:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: @Dust We'll let the council of planetary management decide on that. Especially once the elections are implemented. I'm not worried about relying on CPM for a vital feature like that. I'll let dwindling sales do that as vets run out of reasons to buy AUR, and noobs put down the game because vets are stomping the **** out of them and advancement is slower than a one legged turtle in a pool of molasses You do realize you're talking about an indie company that doesn't put profits before their players, right? By the way, Eve Online is CCP's primary source of revenue along with the PLEX system they introduced back in 2010. If CCP was able to figure out how to cover the cost of voice transmissions (remember the Universal Voice Transmitters you had to pay?) for us, then I don't see CCP struggling financially anytime soon. Unless of course you can somehow convince Eve Online players to unsubscribe by the thousands (again). But considering how happy Eve players are now, I doubt that will happen again for a very long time.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6320	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:43:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: You do realize you're talking about an indie company that doesn't put profits before their players, right? By the way, Eve Online is CCP's primary source of revenue along with the PLEX system they introduced back in 2010. If CCP was able to figure out how to cover the cost of voice transmissions (remember the Universal Voice Transmitters you had to pay?) for us, then I don't see CCP struggling financially anytime soon. Unless of course you can somehow convince Eve Online players to unsubscribe by the thousands (again). But considering how happy Eve players are now, I doubt that will happen again for a very long time. Just saying, even if you have one successful business, you can't just assume it's going to pay the bills for another. If DUST doesn't turn the profits that they want, things will change. Just look at the Uprising debacle. Look how much changed internally because of how hard it failed. It's the same idea. If the game doesn't turn enough sales, they will do what they have to do to keep people interested. When your game is populated by a lot of bitter and bored vets because new players keep getting face rolled by half asleep players with millions of SP, and when the press is so bad that new players don't even try the game, drastic measures will have to be taken. I don't care either way, I've accepted that my ****** up brain doesn't play nice with this boring SP system because I literally can't sit on SP for long (it actually makes my skin crawl seeing that number get higher up there). I'm just observing and laughing.
Lorhak Gannarsein Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 408	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:45:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: @Dust We'll let the council of planetary management decide on that. Especially once the elections are implemented. I'm not worried about relying on CPM for a vital feature like that. I'll let dwindling sales do that as vets run out of reasons to buy AUR, and noobs put down the game because vets are stomping the **** out of them and advancement is slower than a one legged turtle in a pool of molasses You do realize you're talking about an indie company that doesn't put profits before their players, right? By the way, Eve Online is CCP's primary source of revenue along with the PLEX system they introduced back in 2010. If CCP was able to figure out how to cover the cost of voice transmissions (remember the Universal Voice Transmitters you had to pay?) for us, then I don't see CCP struggling financially anytime soon. Unless of course you can somehow convince Eve Online players to unsubscribe by the thousands (again). But considering how happy Eve players are now, I doubt that will happen again for a very long time. I very much doubt that CCP will continue to support this game if it's desperately unprofitable. I'm sure they're a fantastic indie company with great experience in making us pay for things, but they're also a company. Which means profit. If they're not running a profit here, why keep it going?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4216	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:48:00 - [8] - Quote @Dust Fiend In that case, just give yourself a break and play another game. In the meantime Dust will improve in the years to come. So six or more months from now when you log back in to check what's up, you might see improvements and a nice pool of unallocated SP to make your skin crawl again. Just remember how bad Eve Online started. That didn't stop CCP and thankfully that didn't force CCP into becoming like EA.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 491	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:48:00 - [9] - Quote I personally don't think we should have respecs for everyone, but I am a bit of a hypocrite I admit because my character is finely tuned because of a respec. Before it was a complete and total mess. There should be a system in place where a player at his 2 million SP mark gets his skills automatically reset so he can re-invest them. This makes it so it benefits new players only while they are learning the game.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4216	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:52:00 - [10] - Quote BARDAS wrote: I personally don't think we should have respecs for everyone, but I am a bit of a hypocrite I admit because my character is finely tuned because of a respec. Before it was a complete and total mess. There should be a system in place where a player at his 2 million SP mark gets his skills automatically reset so he can re-invest them. This makes it so it benefits new players only while they are learning the game. That's a grey area for me. On the one hand I want new players to have a chance to learn the game better, but on the other hand the new players need to learn how to live with their choices.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6323	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:53:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Just remember how bad Eve Online started. That didn't stop CCP and thankfully that didn't force CCP into becoming like EA. I was unaware that creating an SP system that evolves along with the player in a first person shooter meant emulating EA You learn something new every day.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 394	Posted - 2013.09.18 15:56:00 - [12] - Quote Has anyone told you since MAY 2013 that the people working on DUST haven't made the smartest decisions?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4217	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:00:00 - [13] - Quote RKKR wrote: Has anyone told you since MAY 2013 that the people working on DUST haven't made the smartest decisions? You can say the same thing about every other game out there.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1079	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:29:00 - [14] - Quote They also said we would get the SP rollover system in Uprising... Things change and so will their stance on respecs unless they really want this game to continue being a failure.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 141	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:45:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: That's a grey area for me. On the one hand I want new players to have a chance to learn the game better, but on the other hand the new players need to learn how to live with their choices. That would be appropriate if new players got to make Fully Informed choices. Unfortunately, the skill system is too complicated for that.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 396	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:48:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: RKKR wrote: Has anyone told you since MAY 2013 that the people working on DUST haven't made the smartest decisions? You can say the same thing about every other game out there. Are you trying to say that it is OK to not make the smartest decisions when other developers/business-people don't make the smartest decision either?
Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 519	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:59:00 - [17] - Quote hm respect.. or making people grind until they spec out to pay for their mistakes.......seems to me there are alot of packs of dropsuit, weapons and vehicles to try before you buy. sample items dont cost much isk to spec into . If you went from 0-5 so sad do your research
GTA V FTW Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.09.18 17:07:00 - [18] - Quote Who cares about Money, its hard to have a MMO when there are no players.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 737	Posted - 2013.09.18 17:47:00 - [19] - Quote The idea that we should have repecs because a lot of people want them is ridiculous. I think we'd all like 10 mil ISK but they shouldn't just hand that out. New players have no skill points to reallocate, why is it fair that vets don't have to grind to try new things like them?
RECON BY FIRE Internal Rebellion 244	Posted - 2013.09.18 17:53:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: You do realize you're talking about an indie company that doesn't put profits before their players, right? LMFAO! That's pretty good, tell another one.



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