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Fire9er Greko
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:05:00 -
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I wonder too sometimes I think about it other times I try to bare it. But mostly with the constant changes to gameplay and balancing is it really right? |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
89
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:18:00 -
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NOMORE RESPECTS ! |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
259
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:19:00 -
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I just grind out more SP and it's whatever because I'll get what I was aiming for. Simply a matter of time.
Added note: It also helps that I don't follow the "trends" of weapons. Spec into what feels right for the long haul, not what is cheap for a moment.
Last note: I am not including the Plasma Cannon. That has been my dirty pleasure for quite a few builds now. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
224
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:19:00 -
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Eve: online is on its 10th plus year with the largest balancing process that has been in many years. So if you don't like balancing i Would not recommend a game made by CCP since they like to do constant updates, if you want a game to be released and forgot about play CoD |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6311
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:25:00 -
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Would be nice.
My ADD / OCD doesn't agree with sitting on SP for weeks on end, nor does it care for the millions of SP I have spread around in **** I don't care about
::shrugs::
I still stomp the **** out of most people I run across, and I run strictly militia in most cases, and basically always run solo.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
259
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:32:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I still stomp the **** out of most people I run across, and I run strictly militia in most cases, and basically always run solo.
I do something similar, but standard. Standard because most of my suits are also standard, spare for the advanced logistic and scout. I will not use prototype gear, despite me having stockpiled quite a number of both suits and weapons of the prototype variety.
It's sort of a... I don't know how to explain it. "Honor amongst warriors" sort of thing. It's not a hidden thing that Dust is struggling a bit with numbers for population. It's my "thing" (I suppose) to welcome new players as a player on a slightly raised hill (as I am heavy into core skills) instead of from atop of a mountain.
Added note: I do occasionally run an advanced suit with an advanced weapon, but that's simply me saying hello to the tankers as a FGer. (In other cases, just standard FG with Dren.) |
PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
58
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:52:00 -
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When the rest of the vehecles, dropsiuts weapons and modules come out, i think a respec would be good for the game.
Right now we ALL have a limmited choise of weaponry etc, i think it would be nice to se players run whit all kinds of weapons, suits etc. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
195
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:52:00 -
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Why can't people just get it in their head, there should be NO more respecs! Live with the **** decisions you have made, deal with it. |
PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
58
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:59:00 -
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I made NO mistakes in my training, and i would almost surely train the exact same skills as i have now.
That said i still think a respec would be a DAMN GOOD thing for the game, when ALL the new stuff has come, and NOT before and NEVER EVER again... |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
224
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:01:00 -
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PADDEHATPIGEN wrote:I made NO mistakes in my training, and i would almost surely train the exact same skills as i have now.
That said i still think a respec would be a DAMN GOOD thing for the game, when ALL the new stuff has come, and NOT before and NEVER EVER again...
I have made mistakes and I still say no respec. |
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General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
2524
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:05:00 -
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I don't want or need anymore respecs. Even after all the gear I have used has been nerfed, I still don't want one. |
Spike Jin-Mei
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:08:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Why can't people just get it in their head, there should be NO more respecs! Live with the **** decisions you have made, deal with it.
Or they can just do what most people have been doing and just stop playing the game entirely ... not exactly ideal on a f2p game where most people have nothing invested ... I think it should be the players choice not your choice because you don't want one .. I don;t particularly want one either but I dont care if other people get one because i'm happy with what I have and I'd much rather lose on a game that has hundreds and thousands of players tons of game modes, quick match queuing than stomp a few hundred players too feel good about myself
No respecs and the game ends up being pulled ...
Allow a set amount of respecs and the game grows ...
It's clear at the moment that the vets can't keep this game running and catering to what they want has seen new player numbers and even people actively playing the game drop significantly, I've played since BETA and this game is dieing however you dress it up |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1721
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:10:00 -
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Yes. A respec with the introduction of new racial variants for those people who made the choice to play a certain role, with the race they didn't want.
As opposed to NOT playing Dust at all for fear of wasting SP. Reward player's patience and players who have supported this game. Respec for racials as they come |
Meknow Intaki
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
29
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:13:00 -
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Why do you need a respec in a game with unlimited skill points?!
I could see people wanting a respec if there was a sp cap and you could not try everything, but in dust there is no cap so you just got to keep going till you get what you want |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
758
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:13:00 -
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Just for Dropsuit Command when we see the new ones. And of course Vehicle Command when those roll out.
I wouldn't hate a respec, but I'm already secure in Core Upgrades (6m SP invested there) and have most weapons (no knives or plasma cannons yet) to at least 3s.
Although, I am on the verge of petitioning to have every drop of SP I've invested in those GD MFing piece of **** shotguns to be refunded. (FFS) |
Spike Jin-Mei
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:14:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:I don't want or need anymore respecs. Even after all the gear I have used has been nerfed, I still don't want one.
Don't have 1 then .. just because you don't want one shouldn't mean someone who does want one can't have one
I still do not get this No respecs thing ... i have 21m SP on my main... i honestly couldn't careless if people have respecs all it will do is make more people stronger which makes matches more balanced which makes the game more fun ... Then again I'm actually good at the game and don;t get my kicks out of stomping new players like alot of the other supposed Vets
Munch |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4216
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:16:00 -
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source: www.dust514.com/support petition system.
The following is a cookie-cutter reply to everyone who filed a petiton for the FINAL respec back in May of 2013.
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Posted at 17.05.2013 17:04 by GM Grave Hello,
This response is being sent to all users who have filed a support ticket in order to request a skill respec.
We would like to acknowledge receipt of your skill respect request and inform you that we have now flagged your account for a skill respec .
The skill respec will be applied to your characters in the coming days once we have completed and deployed changes to the skill tree. This one time respec will remove and refund all ISK and skill points that have been applied to date. Please ensure that due care is taken when spending skills and ISK as we will be unable to reverse ISK/SP spending in future.
If you wish to discuss issues that have not been addressed in this skill respec response, or believe you have received this message in error then please respond to this support ticket and we will attempt to address your issue.
Please accept my sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please note that if you are receiving this message you are currently in a queue for a skill respec. Eligible customers who may have been misfiled and would like to request an Aurum account reset should respond to this ticket clarifying their request.
Regards, Lead GM Grave CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514
No more respecs are coming. At least not the FULL respecs.
The only kind of SP refund you might get are partial ones such as when they remove skill books that you invested in or reduced the SP cost of the skill books. Practically, just like how they did it with their Eve Online skill tree. To this day, after ten years, Eve Online still undergoes constant rebalancing of the ships and skill books and so far NO FULL respecs were handed out since 2003 which was supposedly the last time a respec was ever handed out. |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
209
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:18:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Eve: online is on its 10th plus year with the largest balancing process that has been in many years. So if you don't like balancing i Would not recommend a game made by CCP since they like to do constant updates, if you want a game to be released and forgot about play CoD you can respec in EVE once every 6 months soo..... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6314
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:21:00 -
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It's funny how this is obviously something many players want.
We will get a respec system, especially if the game doesn't pick up in popularity come christmas / if the PS4 puts a serious hurt on the game.
Gotta keep us in somehow. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4216
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:28:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Eve: online is on its 10th plus year with the largest balancing process that has been in many years. So if you don't like balancing i Would not recommend a game made by CCP since they like to do constant updates, if you want a game to be released and forgot about play CoD you can respec in EVE once every 6 months soo.....
/facepalm
Dude, the Neural Remap system IS NOT A RESPEC SYSTEM!!!
Seriously, how many times do I have to repeat myself here? The remap doesn't reallocate any of the SP you have in Eve. It only allows you to reallocate attribute points across any of the five attributes that the skill books have so that you can decide which skill books train FASTER and which ones train SLOWER.
Also, it's once a year, not every 6 months.
Cheers. |
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Meknow Intaki
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:29:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Eve: online is on its 10th plus year with the largest balancing process that has been in many years. So if you don't like balancing i Would not recommend a game made by CCP since they like to do constant updates, if you want a game to be released and forgot about play CoD you can respec in EVE once every 6 months soo.....
Your talking about the Neural Remapping feature.. It does not change your skills it changes your attributes- intelligence, perception, charisma, willpower and memory.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Neural_remapping |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI EoN.
121
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:31:00 -
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Fire9er Greko wrote:I wonder too sometimes I think about it other times I try to bare it. But mostly with the constant changes to gameplay and balancing is it really right? My onlywish: they stop making promises they cant keep |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6317
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:32:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Eve: online is on its 10th plus year with the largest balancing process that has been in many years. So if you don't like balancing i Would not recommend a game made by CCP since they like to do constant updates, if you want a game to be released and forgot about play CoD you can respec in EVE once every 6 months soo..... Your talking about the Neural Remapping feature.. It does not change your skilsl it changes your attributes- intelligence, perception, charisma, willpower and memory. Which is funny, because that system is in place because the skill system is actually worth a damn and promotes variety.
DUSTs SP system is a crippled baby in comparison, yet EVE fans insist it's the same between the two games
Fan Goggles over 9000 |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4216
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Meknow Intaki wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Eve: online is on its 10th plus year with the largest balancing process that has been in many years. So if you don't like balancing i Would not recommend a game made by CCP since they like to do constant updates, if you want a game to be released and forgot about play CoD you can respec in EVE once every 6 months soo..... Your talking about the Neural Remapping feature.. It does not change your skilsl it changes your attributes- intelligence, perception, charisma, willpower and memory. Which is funny, because that system is in place because the skill system is actually worth a damn and promotes variety. DUSTs SP system is a crippled baby in comparison, yet EVE fans insist it's the same between the two games Fan Goggles over 9000
If you think the Dust SP system is a crippled baby, then up until 2012 the Eve Online SP system was once a patient in a coma. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6317
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If you think the Dust SP system is a crippled baby, then up until 2012 the Eve Online SP system was once a patient in a coma. At least there was variety
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RedZer0 MK1
Opus Arcana
45
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Posted - 2013.09.18 16:39:00 -
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A respec system would bolster the number of players in the game, more players more money. |
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
193
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Posted - 2013.09.18 16:44:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Why can't people just get it in their head, there should be NO more respecs! Live with the **** decisions you have made, deal with it.
now I will definitely have to kill you |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1518
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:31:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Why can't people just get it in their head, there should be NO more respecs! Live with the **** decisions you have made, deal with it.
Your argument seems to be that there should be no respecs because there should be no respecs.
Good work. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
225
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:38:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Why can't people just get it in their head, there should be NO more respecs! Live with the **** decisions you have made, deal with it. Your argument seems to be that there should be no respecs because there should be no respecs. Good work.
Using logic does not work here "Welcome to the dust 514 forums, here's a box of tissue for your tears" |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
176
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:38:00 -
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Fire9er Greko wrote:I wonder too sometimes I think about it other times I try to bare it. But mostly with the constant changes to gameplay and balancing is it really right? Always i mean i shouldn't depend on it but i do i'm waiting for one to get scout but i'm not sure if i would if i got a respec |
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
178
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:39:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Why can't people just get it in their head, there should be NO more respecs! Live with the **** decisions you have made, deal with it. I made a respec decision before why can't now? |
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