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Dunk Mujunk wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

They are Vtol capable, I am sure most of the fighters we see get shot down will be from forge guns, railguns and other small arms fire (I doubt they're going to be as armored up as the dropship so things like an AR would tear it a new one if exposed to fire for a long time)

Ewwww. That's no good. The fighters I was envisioning would have no business being low enough to be taken out by a Forge or Railgun, and should really only be getting shot down by other fighters/proper anti air weapons/structures. I was honestly hoping when the time came CCP would extend the verticality of maps, at least a touch, and fighters would be strictly for attacking and protecting some sort of Assault Bomber that would have to be brought in to keep the Fighters from being a wasted SP sink and or a joke.

Don't get me wrong, if you have the balls to be hugging the ground at high speeds go for it. I understand the VTOL being all but required for take off and landing, but VTOL should be worthless for combat, and honestly pure fighters should be UTERLY worthless against any troops/vehicles on the ground, save for an extremely lucky shot from time to time.

In short, please don't let CCP make a fighter that is nothing more than a glorified Dropship Wolf. I understand required speed limitations due to map size, but Fighters should be fast as ****, weak as ****, maneuverable as ****, and there should really be no need to call in a Fighter unless the enemy has called in a Bomber or something.

While we are on the topic, what are the chances we will get an AWACS aircraft one day?

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Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3622	Posted - 2013.09.18 04:33:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=anmGcHtkmv4#t=511 08:30 if it doesn't link properly STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEART CCP
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 81	Posted - 2013.09.18 04:48:00 - [2] - Quote One day..........
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3623	Posted - 2013.09.18 05:25:00 - [3] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: One day.......... Can't come soon enough...
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 83	Posted - 2013.09.18 05:57:00 - [4] - Quote I'm still too fresh to justify saving up extremely large amounts of SP, but once the talk of adding in Fighters becomes serious i'm going to save every last drop. Already got a scarf and some flyin' gargles.
Crimson Judgment ROGUE SPADES EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.09.18 06:20:00 - [5] - Quote is it just me or does anyone else notice that this game is probably going to turn into dogfight 514 the moment fighters are released
forteXVI Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2013.09.18 07:05:00 - [6] - Quote Crimson Judgment wrote: is it just me or does anyone else notice that this game is probably going to turn into dogfight 514 the moment fighters are released hopefully the game will have expanded enough by then, bigger maps, 64v64 battles, more weapons and vehicles, suits, etc. as the game expands so will its player base, though it rises slowly, it rises nonetheless I look forward to hunting down Fighters in my dropship >:)
straya fox CybinSect 21	Posted - 2013.09.18 07:25:00 - [7] - Quote Crimson Judgment wrote: is it just me or does anyone else notice that this game is probably going to turn into dogfight 514 the moment fighters are released Then who will hack the objective... i guess we will have a lot of clone wins / losses.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8595	Posted - 2013.09.18 07:28:00 - [8] - Quote http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0801/7%5B2%5D.jpg
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1054	Posted - 2013.09.18 07:31:00 - [9] - Quote Crimson Judgment wrote: is it just me or does anyone else notice that this game is probably going to turn into dogfight 514 the moment fighters are released Not me. The further I am from piloting anything that isn't an LAV the better.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 561	Posted - 2013.09.18 07:36:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson Judgment wrote: is it just me or does anyone else notice that this game is probably going to turn into dogfight 514 the moment fighters are released forge gun says you are wrong

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 83	Posted - 2013.09.18 07:38:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0801/7%5B2%5D.jpg See now you're just taunting us.
Shaze 'Jazz' Sovatsor Dust2Dust. Top Men. 54	Posted - 2013.09.18 09:38:00 - [12] - Quote Here's a little better pic. http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/galente_fighter.jpg
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 561	Posted - 2013.09.18 09:44:00 - [13] - Quote Design is similar to the Atron frigate in Eve Online
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3625	Posted - 2013.09.18 12:13:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0801/7%5B2%5D.jpg Why didn't you link the full res version? You were the one I got it from after all, in that mega-thread you made of all the concept art. Also: A. I don't think Forge Guns will be a threat to something that flies at high speeds like that B. I doubt anything like a jet could be "flavor-of-the-month", at least not if they keep with the design methodology they used for Dropships, such that it would take some actual skill to pilot them without just crashing over and over.
Crimson Judgment ROGUE SPADES EoN. 108	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:32:00 - [15] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0801/7%5B2%5D.jpg Why didn't you link the full res version? You were the one I got it from after all, in that mega-thread you made of all the concept art. Also: A. I don't think Forge Guns will be a threat to something that flies at high speeds like that B. I doubt anything like a jet could be "flavor-of-the-month", at least not if they keep with the design methodology they used for Dropships, such that it would take some actual skill to pilot them without just crashing over and over. you have some good points like how is a forge gun even gonna hit a jet and it should take skill to learn to fly as this is true at the same time i don't think that will deter people from jets because who wouldn't want to learn how to fly one i have talked to a friend of mine about this a little and he says he wants to fly i keep telling him then why not use a dropship? he says he doesn't want to use a dropship he wants to fly in a jet although his exact words where " i don't want to go waaaaoooo waaaaoooo he wants to go ZOOOOOOM ZOOOOM ZOOOOOOOOOOM lol so i don't think that any skill will really make people not want to use them people will only want to learn how unlike with the dropship because isn't it every little boys dream to fly one day... but apparently not in a slow transport craft lol
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 990	Posted - 2013.09.18 16:34:00 - [16] - Quote You know what? I'm glad there not here. I can barely pilot my assault dropship. My ISK and SP are safe...for now.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8603	Posted - 2013.09.18 17:43:00 - [17] - Quote They are Vtol capable, I am sure most of the fighters we see get shot down will be from forge guns, railguns and other small arms fire (I doubt they're going to be as armored up as the dropship so things like an AR would tear it a new one if exposed to fire for a long time)
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 178	Posted - 2013.09.18 18:02:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=anmGcHtkmv4#t=511 08:30 if it doesn't link properly STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEART CCP Lol i saw that before but yeah idk how the system works
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3627	Posted - 2013.09.18 20:04:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They are Vtol capable, I am sure most of the fighters we see get shot down will be from forge guns, railguns and other small arms fire (I doubt they're going to be as armored up as the dropship so things like an AR would tear it a new one if exposed to fire for a long time) All you have to do is not be dumb about how you take off. Get about 10 feet Pitch up Switch to forward flight Pedal to the metal If you combine that with an afterburner, there won't be anyone in the game that can take you down at that speed. Only way you can get shot in the air is if you're a dumbass and fly straight at an obvious threat like a Forge Gun or don't try to evade Swarms. Whenever you have to land to repair or re-arm, try to do it in areas with cover. Easy.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 83	Posted - 2013.09.18 20:22:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They are Vtol capable, I am sure most of the fighters we see get shot down will be from forge guns, railguns and other small arms fire (I doubt they're going to be as armored up as the dropship so things like an AR would tear it a new one if exposed to fire for a long time) Ewwww. That's no good. The fighters I was envisioning would have no business being low enough to be taken out by a Forge or Railgun, and should really only be getting shot down by other fighters/proper anti air weapons/structures. I was honestly hoping when the time came CCP would extend the verticality of maps, at least a touch, and fighters would be strictly for attacking and protecting some sort of Assault Bomber that would have to be brought in to keep the Fighters from being a wasted SP sink and or a joke. Don't get me wrong, if you have the balls to be hugging the ground at high speeds go for it. I understand the VTOL being all but required for take off and landing, but VTOL should be worthless for combat, and honestly pure fighters should be UTERLY worthless against any troops/vehicles on the ground, save for an extremely lucky shot from time to time. In short, please don't let CCP make a fighter that is nothing more than a glorified Dropship Wolf. I understand required speed limitations due to map size, but Fighters should be fast as **, weak as , maneuverable as **, and there should really be no need to call in a Fighter unless the enemy has called in a Bomber or something. While we are on the topic, what are the chances we will get an AWACS aircraft one day?

Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3630	Posted - 2013.09.18 20:27:00 - [21] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They are Vtol capable, I am sure most of the fighters we see get shot down will be from forge guns, railguns and other small arms fire (I doubt they're going to be as armored up as the dropship so things like an AR would tear it a new one if exposed to fire for a long time) Ewwww. That's no good. The fighters I was envisioning would have no business being low enough to be taken out by a Forge or Railgun, and should really only be getting shot down by other fighters/proper anti air weapons/structures. I was honestly hoping when the time came CCP would extend the verticality of maps, at least a touch, and fighters would be strictly for attacking and protecting some sort of Assault Bomber that would have to be brought in to keep the Fighters from being a wasted SP sink and or a joke. Don't get me wrong, if you have the balls to be hugging the ground at high speeds go for it. I understand the VTOL being all but required for take off and landing, but VTOL should be worthless for combat, and honestly pure fighters should be UTERLY worthless against any troops/vehicles on the ground, save for an extremely lucky shot from time to time. In short, please don't let CCP make a fighter that is nothing more than a glorified Dropship Wolf. I understand required speed limitations due to map size, but Fighters should be fast as **, weak as , maneuverable as **, and there should really be no need to call in a Fighter unless the enemy has called in a Bomber or something. While we are on the topic, what are the chances we will get an AWACS aircraft one day? You'll notice from that concept art that they were originally designed to be two-seaters with a deployable gun turret while in "VTOL mode". I'm pretty sure they scrapped that, and I'm hoping against hope that I'm right. I would actually love it if we had a Heavy Aircraft with some major bonuses to Active Scanners to act as an eye in the sky.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 83	Posted - 2013.09.18 20:46:00 - [22] - Quote Raising the player count in battles would also make all this way more viable, though I realize CCP can only do so much with the current technology. It would be freakin awesome to have the MAG limit of 128 vs 128 and have tank platoons, LAV and MAV squads, fighter and bomber wings, plus a massive infantry army.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 443	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:10:00 - [23] - Quote I currently have 4 million SP built up so far for fighters that probably wont come before I get fed up with this game. Sigh
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 83	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:17:00 - [24] - Quote I would say go ahead and spend your 4 mil right now to make your experience a better one. From looking on the forums and talking to people, Fighters are probably well over a year away, and at this point seem to be more of an idea than a plan. I don't know any of this for sure though, it's all just guesses. But yea, spend your SP, have some fun, and don't pay any mind to Fighters at this point. You will have plenty of time to save up more SP.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3630	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:35:00 - [25] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I would say go ahead and spend your 4 mil right now to make your experience a better one. From looking on the forums and talking to people, Fighters are probably well over a year away, and at this point seem to be more of an idea than a plan. I don't know any of this for sure though, it's all just guesses. But yea, spend your SP, have some fun, and don't pay any mind to Fighters at this point. You will have plenty of time to save up more SP. I'm thinking that I'll put in enough SP to go full support Logi, and maybe enough to do HAVs again, and then just bank whatever I get after that. Those are the only two roles I enjoy and am good at right now anyway.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 84	Posted - 2013.09.19 03:04:00 - [26] - Quote I keep thinking about specing into a support logi role. Most people seem to have a pretty good time running it.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3631	Posted - 2013.09.19 03:33:00 - [27] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I keep thinking about specing into a support logi role. Most people seem to have a pretty good time running it. Your squad will love you.


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