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Lightning Bolt2
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:09:00 -
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I've seen alot of different viewpoints on how people see scouts, so I want to see how most people view scouts  .
I see them as assassins/saboteurs/recon to help shape the battlefield (such as take the enemies blaster installation and kill them or just destroy it). I see mimitar scouts as assassins/saboteurs because of the bonuses and speed it should have, and I see the gallente as saboteurs/recon due to it's bonuses and how it's built (still should be faster).
now, discuss. I'm curious. |
Synbot
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:30:00 -
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as scouts
and not free WPs |
Raz Sidona
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
28
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:31:00 -
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Not as assaults like most try to do. A frontal attack from a scout is free WP |
OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
665
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:32:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110428&p=3
Pretty much my big post at the bottom of page 3 |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:34:00 -
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CANDY POPPERS! YUMMY!
... uh wait? scouts? Uh.... uh.... scouty... yeah..
Edit: if they actually could share limited intel without a module or scanner of some kind I'd find them to be of great value to me however. |
Saxbrin Shain
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
56
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:40:00 -
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I see them as fast, lightly armored, ground units who rely more on their speed and hit-and-run tactics than a solid tank. I don't think they should be pigeonholed into any roles, though. Leave that up to how they're fit. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
26
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:41:00 -
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I see scouts as people who flip out and start jumping like a spider on acid when they see me.
why do the freak because a prototype sentinel suit with a large black minigun turns the corner and starts shooting them In close quarters combat.
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AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
123
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:59:00 -
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Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:I see scouts as people who flip out and start jumping like a spider on acid when they see me. why do the freak because a prototype sentinel suit with a large black minigun turns the corner and starts shooting them In close quarters combat.
To distract the heavy from other scout sneaking up behind him with the shotgun.  |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
206
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:04:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:I've seen alot of different viewpoints on how people see scouts.
I generally see scouts dead and on the ground. |
Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers
EoN.
604
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:08:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:I've seen alot of different viewpoints on how people see scouts, so I want to see how most people view scouts . I see them as assassins/saboteurs/recon to help shape the battlefield (such as take the enemies blaster installation and kill them or just destroy it). I see mimitar scouts as assassins/saboteurs because of the bonuses and speed it should have, and I see the gallente as saboteurs/recon due to it's bonuses and how it's built (still should be faster). now, discuss. I'm curious.
Hit-n-Run, melee specialist, and stealth (see all those scanners?). |
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1129
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:27:00 -
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I see scouts, dead. In my living room....
I was once a scout.
So in an honorable way i pick their dead bodies and seat them in my living room.
Then After drowning my memories in whiskey, i just let a tear out that lands on my Imperial Scrambler Rifle and say:
''I told you not to run around with those suits.......''' |
OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
665
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:35:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:I see scouts, dead. In my living room....
I was once a scout.
So in an honorable way i pick their dead bodies and seat them in my living room.
Then After drowning my memories in whiskey, i just let a tear out that lands on my Imperial Scrambler Rifle and say:
''I told you not to run around with those suits.......'''
Last night my whole team went horrible negative except tha tanker an I .
Nova knives 18/8 not bad considering I had two spawn deaths and a fall |
McFurious
TeamPlayers
EoN.
369
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:50:00 -
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I don't usually see scouts at all until I get shotgunned in the back.  |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1130
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:56:00 -
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McFurious wrote:I don't usually see scouts at all until I get shotgunned in the back.
I see them always about to backstab some blue dot and 1HKO them with My scrambler : /
Sometimes, if i dont like the blue dot or we are doing really good i'll let the scout get the kill before killing him..thats how i see scouts. I pity them, i pity myself.... |
SgtDoughnut
M.E.R.C. Elite
135
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:58:00 -
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As this guy
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/615011399189674963/7515E76CD57C62C4A0C05A9AE8924AABD4177F75/ |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
27
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:36:00 -
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 AAGMUNDR wrote:Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:I see scouts as people who flip out and start jumping like a spider on acid when they see me. why do the freak because a prototype sentinel suit with a large black minigun turns the corner and starts shooting them In close quarters combat To distract the heavy from other scout sneaking up behind him with the shotgun. 
I would have to have at least two scouts with a shotgun to kill me my hp with shields and armour combined is somewhere around 1300 hp. So we can gues that I shotgun wouldn't work. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
27
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:17:00 -
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just got done with a match this scout with minimatar armour decided that he didn't like me and sought a personal vendetta with almost every weapon he could equip each time I saw him I shot him down in about ohhh..... 0.5 seconds with my BIG BLACK...
minigun. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
294
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:28:00 -
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Hit and run speed tank
People who see them as anything else are killing the scout.
This game is about killing and teamwork against objectives. Saying a scout shouldnt be able to kill or take on more then one person is bullcrap because anyone with signifigent skills should be able to take on one or more people at a time.
When I say skill, I mean skill not skill points. |
Sgt Buttscratch
SLAPHAPPY BANDITS
774
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:30:00 -
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I'd see their role as sneaking around in the background. offer sevaral optional roies.
Saboteur: A scout (new suit, 2/3 equipt slots) the ability to get in and set up traps, including trip wires, anti hack devices on objectives. Maybe the ability to hack/sabotage enemy equipment( Reverse ownership of remotes/prox, uplinks, sabotage or own enemy nanohives, to sabotage would turn hive into an explosive device that used its aura as the trigger.)
Recon: Unseen, fast recon specialist. Able to tag locate enemies and potential threats for his squad. These would be the suits with a cloaking ability. When motionless the scout would stealh/cloak. Making deadly ambush on straglers an option or just let threats pass.
I also see scouts as the main class to get uplinks placed through out a map in critical spots |
Lightning Bolt2
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
225
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Posted - 2013.09.18 16:39:00 -
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well, most people see scouts as a free +50. |
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.09.18 16:44:00 -
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I see scouts as having three main uses (assuming all classes sufficiently fill their role):
CQC stealth fighter: Slips into occupied areas and stealthily kills enemies while enemy is distracted.
Medium range scouter: Advances ahead of rest of team, scouts out enemy's positions, and advises main force on enemy locations and best entry routes
^ both also serve well for hacking objectives/installations and planting traps when enemy has their back turned
Long range counter-sniper: While not having the straight up damage of an Assault sniper, the supply line of a Logi sniper, or the toughness of a Heavy sniper, the scout sniper serves well in finding other snipers while not being detected themselves.
All of these various scout roles rely on avoiding enemy detection to stay alive but still need enough eHP/speed to have a chance at escape once detected. |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
75
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:27:00 -
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Minja is the aggressive up close knife work.
Gal is the sneaky sneaky shotty or marksmen
Amarr should be the tecky two equipment slot scout
Cal scout I guess the eyes of his team ? |
Mahal Daj
Delta Enterprise
1
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:58:00 -
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Bolt2,
I like your concept of shaping the battlefield. I feel like I can see tangible effects on the battlefield (especially when I run with a strong corp squad) when I am acting deliberately to cause the changes.
As for your question of scouts roles as a suit, I feel that I have created the ultimate weapon of terror (as evidenced by the number of skull****s I get). The fit follows my Prefered play style, and allows me so many options I have to remind myself of all the ways I can engage in combat. I can't get into the details, but for anyone that runs scouts 90% of the time, you know what I'm talking about. The one thing I can't do is run into the middle of a gunfight.
There is much discussion on the character of the stats on the suit, and I find myself one of the few with very little to complain about. I run a 9-13k ISK fit, and my KDR is soaring.
I would like to try some coordinated battlefield manipulation with a squad of scouts, and see how quickly we can redline the other team.
-Daj |
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