My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood.

It's easy, spec into vehicles. As a heavy, you yourself have to be versatile and there isn't always someone you can rely on and getting into a dingleberries LAV is pretty much a death sentence. Just save up the SP and spec into basic vehicles. I myself am going the dropship route but the choice is yours...

Hoverbikes are supposed to be the alternative transport.
In the meantime I would like to give you guy's a lift but you all either keep stealing the damn thing or won't get out of my DS

I guess i missed the edit. Anywho, eventually you'll have to start speccing into something regardless, so why not vehicles? You are taking a risk regardless of what you bring out, whether it's your gear or a vehicle. Trust me dude i feel you on needing the LAV, I've been a heavy since pre-codex but new eden is much better off without the free lav. It's risk/reward system and if you're not willing to take the risk then you aren't going to get the reward.

Our guy's always try to stop, especially for the heavies. What annoys me though is the lack of respect for my vehicle some blueberries have - I earned it, i payed for it and set it up how I like with the mods I ground SP into. so why should I get to my destination only to have him sit there and not get out cus he wants to go somewhere else. He can't recall it so its lost no matter what happends, often to the enemy so handing them 40 more WP and closer to an orbital.
A DS in skirmish is the worse. Without communication the blues just wont leave and they can't tell me where they want to go. What if I saw a tank next to a particular objective? (which thanks to you not being able to look around in the passenger seat means its likely) I can't just say "sorry I cant" and the longer I hang around the bigger a target i become. I need to stay mobile. And I can't begin to say how happy I will be when I get the choice not to fit turrets.

If you want LAV's go buy them, their not expensive

Still, it's less expensive for the game not to have free LAV's over having them, since blueberries cannot be trusted, give back free lav's and we'll e back to square one, hell I still see people giving murder taxi ago since I assume they forgotten how to play another way.

I agree with this. I own two Guristas Sagas but DUST in fact has no room for free vehicles.
idk what they were thinking.

And this right there is the problem CCP needs to deal with.

If it was up to me Heavies should have to move in DS or the new armored transports when they arrive. At least implement an animation if they dont get in on the drivers side to stop that cheap tactic.

waitWHUT?

Why would you try to stop your own teammate from hacking an enemy LAV ???
This is counter productive. you should stop that.

~20,000 ISK will buy you a MLT Onikuma or Baloch.

As a Heavy, I use the **** out them.
Just try not to get too close to the firefight and recall it. I think I've been using the same one for almost 2 weeks.

I removed the OEM missile launcher and replaced it with a blaster, just in case.

*Opens his Dust garage and looks at his one remaining Baloch Impact from when they were free*
"My precious..."

If that 4 seconds it takes to recall your vehicle is going to screw your team, the battle was already lost.

No emoticon necessary.

You dont even have to spec into vehicles to get a cheap one to use, just toss together a cheap militia fit one to drive you around. max cost like 10k isk, if you cant make more than 10k isk in a match you should probably just uninstall the game.

I don't think it is too much to spend ISK on a MLT LAV and recall it.

So... you want to be able to roll up on somebody, jump out with no delay time, and immediately be in a player's face with high health and an HMG at no extra risk of losing any fake in-game money?

Yeah, that's something CCP should get right on 'fixing'.

I actually did. A way to remedy your problem is to get out outside the battle zone and recall before getting into the fight.

1 question whats stopping you investing a little sp into either sagas or methanas? Why should you get free lavs? I dont agree with blueprints for any vehicle as it negates the risk verses reward system that is intrinsic to this game.

Holy shitfuck it's not rocket science! Just use the LAV to cross the open terrain.

I think you are making several large mistakes with the assumptions in your original post.

Just because you have an LAV, does not mean you have to recall it as soon as you step out. If the enemy really wants to waste their time shooting a MLT lav, that is a bonus, because they are not shooting at your fatsuit.

You also do not need to recall in order to hack a point. The LAV will generally survive long enough for you to get back to it as long as you don't park it out in the open.

If you can't afford 24k SP for the LAV, and 20k a match to buy one, then you are doing something wrong, and deserve to get shat on.

If you refuse to spec into an LAV because you used to have one, you are even more dense than the OP suggests.

Reading the points in your OP, you seem to want these things addressed:

1. Blues taking your LAV. Vehicle locks are coming, stop crying fatty.

2. LAV getting destroyed by the enemy. Either build a better LAV, or kill the enemy faster.

3. LAV self destruct. Don't be away from it for more than a minute.

4. Enemy hacking your LAV. Either kill him, or don't park so close to him.

Bottom line:

Your crappy tactics cost you to lose lots of crappy LAVs. Get better at protecting your investment and maybe then you would see the value in speccing into an LAV.

There should be no free vehicles in the game.

$50 and $100 pack to buy bpo lavs? I got my bpo lav for $10 off ebay (guristas saga). Got it when they did that ps3 Dust 514 bundle voucher thingy. Just checked ebay and there are still vouchers in the 5-10 dollar range.

Yes, it is absolutely necessary to be condescending when someone is complaining about things that are not only silly, but bordering on ignorant.

I numbered your points to respond easier.

1. If you are dead, you will lose the LAV, so dying while trying to recall it is pretty silly. Much better to focus on the attack instead of trying to protect a 25k LAV when you are wearing a 200k ISK suit.

2. I park LAV's everywhere. It is only a Saga, but I will park it anywhere I need to get out and handle some business. I very rarely have my LAV's stolen, but that is probably because I either take a couple of squaddies with me, or am using the LAV to get somewhere away from everyone else.

3. Yep, vehicle locks are going to be so nice.

4) Taking a LAV and crashing into a full squad solo is the very definition of crappy tactics. If you want to go on a suicide run, don't complain when you get killed.

5) See 4 as an example of crappy tactics.

I have no problem with BPO modules at MLT grade. Anything higher should be purged. Vehicles, suits, weapons, all of it should get pulled, if only to let Dust actually serve as an ISK sink.

1. Since you never run solo, and seemingly need to save money for something, why not have someone watch your back when you recall your ride after everyone is dead?

Yes, I run proto all day everyday. But since I don't die too much, I can afford to throw LAVs around all day for fun. You should try it sometime, unless you are too busy saving for what exactly? Hell if you are running standard or advanced heavy suits, you should be able to afford to never walk anywhere, without concern. If you are strapped for ISK running advanced gear, you have much bigger concerns than the LAV situation.

2) What marks something as an unnecessary loss? If I keep my suit alive, worth it. If I get to where I am going to, worth it. If it serves as a distraction for the tank I am hunting, worth it.

I view the saga as a 20k taxi. As long as I get to my destination, I got my value out of it. I don't get upset about 20k ISK. That is like getting mad when you lose a standard suit, just seems silly.

4. Crashing a LAV of three into a full squad is no smarter, you just gave the enemy team at least 200 WP, if not more. 3 on 6 is a poor choice of engagement, 3 on 6 where you won't be able to fire for the first .3 of a second, might get pushed around a bit, and cannot be assured of what direction or position you will be in is even worse choice for how to kick stuff off. Unless you are trying to murder cab a couple to start off with, in which case your little cough cough about me rocking proto is out of place.

You talk about not running solo, then how about your squaddies do their jobs. It is plainly their fault that your LAV gets jacked, blapped or scrapped.

As to the BPO issue, I think there needs to be an ISK cost for every chassis on the field, and the same should apply for weaponry. BPO suits, guns, and vehicles should all be removed. The reason why I say modules can have MLT BPO's is that if you want to gimp out your suit or vehicle to save ISK, go right ahead, at least you paid for the basic components.