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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2025
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:49:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Brothers!!
Sisters!!
Rise!!
Look at the Amarrians and hear their mockery. Their snide and pride shall not go unanswered!!! We are Minmatar and though we are separated by tribe, by our various ways of tradition, we are united in blood. We are united by the pain they have caused. By the injustices! By the same pursuit to rise higher in power for the respect of oneself and peers!!!!
Let us not falter now!! This is our hour!! Unite with your fellow Minmatars!!! Squad up with your fellow Minmatars. Do not approach FW casually!! We must stand against the Amarr! We need you, Minmatar!! Lend your rifle and let your controlled ferocity weaken their hearts with blinding fear!! Retribution is promised to the Amarrs!!
Join me!!! When my name is shown in the warbarge, join my squad or invite me to yours!!! Let us work together. Communicate and coordinate.
Answer this call, my dear brothers and sisters. I implore you.
Its seems you are scorning that which you do not understand young one.
Admittedly you tribes have separated you since your histories began, you have warred against one another, you have spilt the blood of your people across worlds, you tribes mean nothing. However you are unified as one people. You are the Chosen Children of God, selected by Him to join with the Amarr in fulfilling our Immortal Destiny.
It was never the intent of the Amarr to cause pain or suffering since we do not relish it, however it is our duty to ensure those Chosen people come to see God as we have seen him. As for injustices I cannot begin to understand what you mean by this. Amarrian slaves are not mistreated, they cannot be by their holders, if they are the Holder would suffer severe reprimand and a miserable fate of scorn and punishment. Emperor Heideran confirmed this when he outlawed the mistreatment of slaves so that they might understand the Holder's duty as not just someone who cares for their physical bodies but also for their souls.
As for your "ferocity" and "strength at arms" I simply shake my head. I have seen some Matari warriors in the field skilful enough to rival or best the strongest of the Amarr..... but many more Minmatar who can barely heft a rifle , eject a spent magazine, or work Anti Vehicle fire power. This saddens me.
Our God is merciful, he will forgive those who repent for it means those who repent have acknowledged Him, and have trod the path with His light in their hearts. Those who do not shall be torn down from their hidden places and cast out into the Light to wither and die.
"There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2029
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:03:00 -
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steady rikia wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Brothers!!
Sisters!!
Rise!!
Look at the Amarrians and hear their mockery. Their snide and pride shall not go unanswered!!! We are Minmatar and though we are separated by tribe, by our various ways of tradition, we are united in blood. We are united by the pain they have caused. By the injustices! By the same pursuit to rise higher in power for the respect of oneself and peers!!!!
Let us not falter now!! This is our hour!! Unite with your fellow Minmatars!!! Squad up with your fellow Minmatars. Do not approach FW casually!! We must stand against the Amarr! We need you, Minmatar!! Lend your rifle and let your controlled ferocity weaken their hearts with blinding fear!! Retribution is promised to the Amarrs!!
Join me!!! When my name is shown in the warbarge, join my squad or invite me to yours!!! Let us work together. Communicate and coordinate.
Answer this call, my dear brothers and sisters. I implore you.
Its seems you are scorning that which you do not understand young one. Admittedly you tribes have separated you since your histories began, you have warred against one another, you have spilt the blood of your people across worlds, you tribes mean nothing. However you are unified as one people. You are the Chosen Children of God, selected by Him to join with the Amarr in fulfilling our Immortal Destiny. It was never the intent of the Amarr to cause pain or suffering since we do not relish it, however it is our duty to ensure those Chosen people come to see God as we have seen him. As for injustices I cannot begin to understand what you mean by this. Amarrian slaves are not mistreated, they cannot be by their holders, if they are the Holder would suffer severe reprimand and a miserable fate of scorn and punishment. Emperor Heideran confirmed this when he outlawed the mistreatment of slaves so that they might understand the Holder's duty as not just someone who cares for their physical bodies but also for their souls. As for your "ferocity" and "strength at arms" I simply shake my head. I have seen some Matari warriors in the field skilful enough to rival or best the strongest of the Amarr..... but many more Minmatar who can barely heft a rifle , eject a spent magazine, or work Anti Vehicle fire power. This saddens me. Our God is merciful, he will forgive those who repent for it means those who repent have acknowledged Him, and have trod the path with His light in their hearts. Those who do not shall be torn down from their hidden places and cast out into the Light to wither and die. "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 so at what point do they let you think for yourself or will blindly run off a cliff if your empress commanded it. just a question
If God commanded me to throw myself from a cliff top and matyr myself against the rocks below I would do it, because I believe that that is the correct course for me to follow.
Oh I could say no of course but that would be blasphemy, I have chosen to obey the laws and edicts of my Empress and the world God has given unto the Amarr.
My question for you now is. Why does a human being need freedom. Does one really need it to continue living? In the pursuit of such liberties can you truly live selflessly?
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2029
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:04:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:well we like PIE and our great ambassador Sherriff ReGnYuM is a 'diplomat' of sorts for the amarrians.
Needless to say, there is a lot of sympathy for the current state of the amarr empire, and we are now fighting to rid the empire of minmatar scum. They make great sammiches tho....
amarr FTW!!
u see us, just bow down and accept your chains, it will be much less painful.
I know the Minmatar scum will not go down quietly, sadly, so incessant beatings and repeated crop burnings are in order! You needn't harm civilians just because a few decided to rebel then the civilians have now been warned! evacuate and spare yourselves. We wish no harm on those not involved in this rebellion, but once we hit the ground no quarter shall be issued... for anyone not wearing amarrian bandannas that is until our diplomat points us in a different direction. The Amarr have our support, and we shall do our part to reclaim their lands on their behalf. Minmatar have been warned. You honour us Chosen.
The fight has been a bitter one and we have been outnumbered greatly. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2029
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:05:00 -
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steady rikia wrote:i here thats how that guy who makes the zombies people and the blood raiders operate too hell don't the angle cartal have a whole planet now full of "ordinary people" passively agreeing to masters does not mean you can think for yourself only that your trusted with what coffee you want in the morning. That heretic Sansha Kuvakei is universally hated by all four empires. He shall be brought to justice one day and judged before God for the evil man he is. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2030
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:19:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:as we have fought for the disadvantaged in molden Heath, we now extend our services to the empire!
Re connecting many of us with our histories, and others simply fighting for a cause, and yet others simply fighting cause I said so...
all produce the same result, Amarr FTW!! Aren't EoN aligned with the Amarr and Caldari anyway. Such was my belief. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2030
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:23:00 -
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steady rikia wrote:True Adamance wrote:steady rikia wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Brothers!!
Sisters!!
Rise!!
Look at the Amarrians and hear their mockery. Their snide and pride shall not go unanswered!!! We are Minmatar and though we are separated by tribe, by our various ways of tradition, we are united in blood. We are united by the pain they have caused. By the injustices! By the same pursuit to rise higher in power for the respect of oneself and peers!!!!
Let us not falter now!! This is our hour!! Unite with your fellow Minmatars!!! Squad up with your fellow Minmatars. Do not approach FW casually!! We must stand against the Amarr! We need you, Minmatar!! Lend your rifle and let your controlled ferocity weaken their hearts with blinding fear!! Retribution is promised to the Amarrs!!
Join me!!! When my name is shown in the warbarge, join my squad or invite me to yours!!! Let us work together. Communicate and coordinate.
Answer this call, my dear brothers and sisters. I implore you.
Its seems you are scorning that which you do not understand young one. Admittedly you tribes have separated you since your histories began, you have warred against one another, you have spilt the blood of your people across worlds, you tribes mean nothing. However you are unified as one people. You are the Chosen Children of God, selected by Him to join with the Amarr in fulfilling our Immortal Destiny. It was never the intent of the Amarr to cause pain or suffering since we do not relish it, however it is our duty to ensure those Chosen people come to see God as we have seen him. As for injustices I cannot begin to understand what you mean by this. Amarrian slaves are not mistreated, they cannot be by their holders, if they are the Holder would suffer severe reprimand and a miserable fate of scorn and punishment. Emperor Heideran confirmed this when he outlawed the mistreatment of slaves so that they might understand the Holder's duty as not just someone who cares for their physical bodies but also for their souls. As for your "ferocity" and "strength at arms" I simply shake my head. I have seen some Matari warriors in the field skilful enough to rival or best the strongest of the Amarr..... but many more Minmatar who can barely heft a rifle , eject a spent magazine, or work Anti Vehicle fire power. This saddens me. Our God is merciful, he will forgive those who repent for it means those who repent have acknowledged Him, and have trod the path with His light in their hearts. Those who do not shall be torn down from their hidden places and cast out into the Light to wither and die. "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 so at what point do they let you think for yourself or will blindly run off a cliff if your empress commanded it. just a question If God commanded me to throw myself from a cliff top and matyr myself against the rocks below I would do it, because I believe that that is the correct course for me to follow. Oh I could say no of course but that would be blasphemy, I have chosen to obey the laws and edicts of my Empress and the world God has given unto the Amarr. My question for you now is. Why does a human being need freedom. Does one really need it to continue living? In the pursuit of such liberties can you truly live selflessly? my question to you, what will you do if your empire falls and empress dies what does that make of your faith, it is also clear you are beyond understanding while i value my freedom as you have learned to love your chains and to be without them terrifies you
God exists in everything, everywhere. Should such a ruinous day occur I would seek to find a way that would return the Empire to its former Glory, I am not in chains, nor do I fear to be free. As I have said many time before, and a lot of people either haven't been intelligent enough nor open minded enough to comprehend, I choose to follow the Empress, I choose to believe in God.
There is no one forcing me, or I would leave like the many other Amarrian mercenaries that have left the Empire. If I was against the Empire I would have gone with the 1st Generation Templars.
Admittedly some of them did end up in a Nation Cabal.... I do not think I could have followed them there.
However as I have said. I would either fall upon the sword and renounce my immortality and die with my people, or I would seek to find any and everyway to defend the Empire in its hour of need. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2030
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:30:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:True Adamance wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:as we have fought for the disadvantaged in molden Heath, we now extend our services to the empire!
Re connecting many of us with our histories, and others simply fighting for a cause, and yet others simply fighting cause I said so...
all produce the same result, Amarr FTW!! Aren't EoN aligned with the Amarr and Caldari anyway. Such was my belief. Yes, but there is a difference between alignment and actively forcing the hand at play and making an impact such as you may have seen this weekend. I was informed the amarr were down to their last district at 1 point early in the weekend, and myself and others made a strong push throughout to increase their holdings and fend of the rebels trying to raid the villages throughout the empire. more and more strong troops are becoming sympathetic to the cause daily, and the tides are rapidly turning!
This I know. PIE Public is now filled with some of the best loyalist players sympathetic to our cause. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2031
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:50:00 -
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Chief-Shotty wrote:DEATH TO THE IMPERIALIST!! For every blood of an Amarrian spilled: a slave shall reclaim his FREEDOM!
You are the only people who consider them slaves. To us you are our own people in revolt. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2033
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:52:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hahahahahahaha (a hearty chuckle) On a side note, I actually do find it entertaining to use my imperial scrambler rifle on starter/basic minmatar suits because its literally 4 or less shots and then bye bye matari I prefer to flay your kind alive with the Carthum ASCR. Sinner you will never amount to the level of one of the Faithful who bear the Lords arms against His foes. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2033
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Im getting real tired of Mataris Bullcr*p and i AM NOT a patient Amarr....
Talk all you want, you will soon have to choose: Follow the path of the amarr, or decompose and feed the maggots....
My trusty Imperial Scrambler rifle will make my words true.
Consider this well though.
Both the Amarr and the Minmatar are about to unleash the fullest of their military equipment from Heavy Assault Vehicles, Dropsuits, and Infantry Weaponry.
The war will come to its head and we Amarr must stand strong and follow the White. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2033
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:10:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Im getting real tired of Mataris Bullcr*p and i AM NOT a patient Amarr....
Talk all you want, you will soon have to choose: Follow the path of the amarr, or decompose and feed the maggots....
My trusty Imperial Scrambler rifle will make my words true. Consider this well though. Both the Amarr and the Minmatar are about to unleash the fullest of their military equipment from Heavy Assault Vehicles, Dropsuits, and Infantry Weaponry. The war will come to its head and we Amarr must stand strong and follow the White. Thats no problem, Equipment wise we have OBVIOUSLY the upper hand. Skill? we have OBVIOUSLY the upper hand.
The only thing they have here in DUST, is numbers, FOR NOW.... This is true though do not underestimate the Mercenaries of A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S for they have defeated our efforts in the field on many occasions, and given us some of our closest victories to date.
Also Pradox are prolific users of cutting edge technology, we should be wary of them too. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2035
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:42:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Beeeees wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hahahahahahaha (a hearty chuckle) On a side note, I actually do find it entertaining to use my imperial scrambler rifle on starter/basic minmatar suits because its literally 4 or less shots and then bye bye matari I prefer to flay your kind alive with the Carthum ASCR. You see here!!!! Even the mightiest matari tries* to use our enlightened weapons because he knows his weapons are no match for our might!!!!! Our technology has been superior since the days of their First Reclamation. It is no surprise they would try to gather all they can. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2041
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Posted - 2013.09.17 01:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:First Prophet wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote: A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S .
All they have is numbers and cheap strategies. That's pretty cold, bro. Pretty cold. I meant minmatars as a whole >..>Thats why ANONYMOUS should leave their ways of thinking and the ''ideals'' the Gallantean scum has implanted in your heads and Join the Evershining Amarr Empire.... :3 I wish they would. Anon is an Avatar of wrath on the battlefield. I think Aero can attest to it, but whenever he has led an A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S Squad against us we have decisively lost, when he has not been there it has been a fair game more oft a tough win for us. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2111
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:44:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:I gave my life a thousand times for the freedom of any and all Minmatars and their suppressed brethren.
I will gladly do it again.
You just poisoned their minds and now are more miserable than ever. Biting the hand that fed them.
THey were fine under the Amarr flag.... You were their poison, we are their antidote. No you were their poison, who shed no tears when many hundred of thousands of Matar died in the Rebellion, where we the Amarr did. Where were you when the Minmatar needed you? We were there for those who remained loyal. What did you give the Minmatar? Nothing. We gave them a life of safety, light, and love. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2112
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:50:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:I gave my life a thousand times for the freedom of any and all Minmatars and their suppressed brethren.
I will gladly do it again.
Thank you brother! o7 No problem brother. My first death before being cloned was in liberating your brothers and sisters from a slaving camp when I was shot. Since then I have been seeking out and liberating Minmatar slaves from both these camps and Minmatar holders. Bah that is a joke. Under orders of a government who cares not for the Matari people, and uses them as the shield before the word?
Your words ring hollow Gallentean, like all of your accursed race. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2112
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:52:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:True Adamance wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:I gave my life a thousand times for the freedom of any and all Minmatars and their suppressed brethren.
I will gladly do it again.
You just poisoned their minds and now are more miserable than ever. Biting the hand that fed them.
THey were fine under the Amarr flag.... You were their poison, we are their antidote. No you were their poison, who shed no tears when many hundred of thousands of Matar died in the Rebellion, where we the Amarr did. Where were you when the Minmatar needed you? We were there for those who remained loyal. What did you give the Minmatar? Nothing. We gave them a life of safety, light, and love. You shed tears at the thought that your slavers would not be able to work for you anymore. I shed tears of joy they would not be under your oppressive whips any longer. We give them freedom and a real education and houses You know nothing of us Gallentean. perhaps if you bothered to talk to the Amarrian before making your slanderous assertions you might understand our culture more. Yet you will not even try.
We shed tears because we knew you would make them take up arms against us. Their parents, their brothers, and sisters. We who would uplift them when no other people would. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2113
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:03:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:
How does it feel to be losing in FW as of late?
How does it feel that you have not contributed anything to it and the Matari efforts to fight their own wars are being undermined by freelancers out to score Matari Navy Ships to sell, then abandoning the faction once they are through learn your EVE side politics please. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2113
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:05:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:True Adamance wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:I gave my life a thousand times for the freedom of any and all Minmatars and their suppressed brethren.
I will gladly do it again.
Thank you brother! o7 No problem brother. My first death before being cloned was in liberating your brothers and sisters from a slaving camp when I was shot. Since then I have been seeking out and liberating Minmatar slaves from both these camps and Minmatar holders. Bah that is a joke. Under orders of a government who cares not for the Matari people, and uses them as the shield before the word? Your words ring hollow Gallentean, like all of your accursed race. And your orders are from a suppressive theocratic society. You are blinded by a government that does not bring peace and enlightenment but suppression and death to those that would extend their arm of free-thought towards you. Leave them. Do not be afraid Again if you knew anything of the Amarr you would know that the Empire values individuality, creativity, and personal freedoms to a certain extent. Any normal Amarrian would be found doing all the normal things you would find other people doing, hanging out with friends, going to concerts, playing sports and such.
You probably mean an Oppressive society however you must understand that Amarrians may leave as they so wish, we do not need non believers amongst us, and those who remain choose to believe and are not forced to. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2113
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:06:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:
How does it feel to be losing in FW as of late?
How does it feel that you have not contributed anything to it and the Matari efforts to fight their own wars are being undermined by freelancers out to score Matari Navy Ships to sell, then abandoning the faction once they are through learn your EVE side politics please. LOL, your words hold no weight here and they do not deter my focus. Every blast from my HMG slays and slows your efforts. I will continue my vigilance Amarrian.
Admittedly I have never seen your corp in FW nor noted it amongst the strong Matari Mercs like A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S and Pradox, come back when you can make an impression. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2113
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:08:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:I have studied your ways and find that your minds are being poisoned by the very government you serve. Are you not a slave to your government too? They ask that you bend your knee at them and I ask that you fight against their hold on your mind while you still have a chance. That is ridiculous you cannot just assert this. if anything the Gallentean federations roots are more strongly embedded in propaganda, media control, and the poison of the minds of good people more so than the Empire ever has.
If I bend the knee it is my choice and no one else's. I am free to believe in what I wish as your code of ethics says, how can you condemn that in my people yet accept that for your own? |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2114
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:12:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:
How does it feel to be losing in FW as of late?
How does it feel that you have not contributed anything to it and the Matari efforts to fight their own wars are being undermined by freelancers out to score Matari Navy Ships to sell, then abandoning the faction once they are through learn your EVE side politics please. LOL, your words hold no weight here and they do not deter my focus. Every blast from my HMG slays and slows your efforts. I will continue my vigilance Amarrian. Admittedly I have never seen your corp in FW nor noted it amongst the strong Matari Mercs like A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S and Pradox, come back when you can make an impression. Okay you haven't seen my corporation in FW. Huh? All your intelligence Amarrian and you can't factor that maybe, just maybe we haven't been grouped yet in battle? And now you resort to try to use some cheap shots as to say my corporation presence is what matters? This is my fight, not something I ask of my corporation nor is something that I expect them to fight for. Again, you Amarrians have been blinded by your Empress. It's a virus. Because you seek to blind me like others have blinded you in hypocritical faith. I fight in FW and will continue to FW. I spend all my time on the front. I find it hard to imagine we have never met before. I simply just don't remember you. I have no doubt you people are in FW, just not a squad that has made a lasting impression like the others.
How do you jump from you not being memorable to my Empress blinding me? Will you people ever speak sense? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2114
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:17:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:True Adamance wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:I have studied your ways and find that your minds are being poisoned by the very government you serve. Are you not a slave to your government too? They ask that you bend your knee at them and I ask that you fight against their hold on your mind while you still have a chance. That is ridiculous you cannot just assert this. if anything the Gallentean federations roots are more strongly embedded in propaganda, media control, and the poison of the minds of good people more so than the Empire ever has. If I bend the knee it is my choice and no one else's. I am free to believe in what I wish as your code of ethics says, how can you condemn that in my people yet accept that for your own? Our societies are nothing alike! I would be ashamed to live in a suppressive life such as yours. Suppressing the education of those that would not let the words of your "Empress" into their stronger minds. OPPRESSIVE. OPPRESSIVE IS THE WORD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
And we are more alike that you know. Foils of one another.
The Amarr commit great acts of Good or Evil, we are either polar opposites.
While the Gallente are the best and worst of every Empire, a little bit of all.
You have the same imperial dreams as the Amarr or you would not war against the Caldari in a war to oppress them.
The Amarr have more expansive educational programmes than you give us credit for.
Your society makes it possible for the strong to be uplifted while the weak shall fall. Ours allows the weak to be uplifted and the strong to become their equals. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2114
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:18:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Templar Crusader True Adamance, I admire your prolonged efforts to reason with the unenlightened, but do remember there is a reason why the Empire enforces the Reclaiming. For many, their souls have been lost too long in the darkness to see the Truth.
It is some time hard to remain calm in the face of the Unelightened's works of mockery, ignorance, and lack of open mindedness.
I have made many attempts to understand the Gallente. I note their strengths and weaknesses with equal indifference.
And yet the cannot refrain from causing me to hate them so.
The Intaki peoples, Denak and Arkena being the exceptions. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2114
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Templar Crusader True Adamance, I admire your prolonged efforts to reason with the unenlightened, but do remember there is a reason why the Empire enforces the Reclaiming. For many, their souls have been lost too long in the darkness to see the Truth. It is some time hard to remain calm in the face of the Unelightened's works of mockery, ignorance, and lack of open mindedness. I have made many attempts to understand the Gallente. I note their strengths and weaknesses with equal indifference. And yet the cannot refrain from causing me to hate them so. The Intaki peoples, Denak and Arkena being the exceptions. Well to put it quite simply, the reason the Gallente mock the Amarr with such ludicrous claims is because these claims are the very things they try to hide from themselves. It makes them feel better to point the finger at someone else instead, as that makes their actions void. You hinted at this earlier. The Gallente claim we are oppressive, yet it is them who have the imperialistic goals as evident by their unwillingness to let the Caldari be their own nation. The Gallente claim we are ruthless slavers, yet it is them who subject their poor to the dark allies where they have no hope for a good education or health care, and the upper class who plays their politics to make sure the lower class never makes it up the ladder. The Gallente claim we do not think for ourselves, meanwhile the vast majority of federation citizens are addicted to some illegal drug that makes them unstable and their government simply looks the other way. As you have stated, there are a lot of similarities between the Gallente and the Amarr. So what's the key difference? The Gallente do these things to benefit themselves, while the Amarr do these things to benefit humanity.The Gallente will counter, saying are not the Amarr also imperialistic? Yes, we are. However, the Gallente capture other civilizations to feed the lower class which holds up their upper class, while the Amarr capture other planets to educate them (mind you, the Minmatar had not even discovered space flight when we found them). The Gallente will argue do not the Amarr own slaves? Yes, we do. However, the Gallente use their political structure to keep pushing their lower class down in the gutters, while the Amarr go to our slaves and build them schools and hospitals and offer them an easily obtainable track to citizenship. The Gallente will refute, are not the Amarr loyal to whatever the Empress says? Yes, we are. However, the Gallente allow the use of drugs to control their population, making them believe that is what they want so they can manipulate them to benefit their own cause, while the Amarr look to the Empress for leadership because only at the top of the mountain can you see all of the nation and needs of her people.
As ever your words are reason.
Its is enough.
"The word of the Lord is pure, It is a shield for the faithful, Brought unto men by the Angels, As a guiding light in the darkness " - The Scriptures, Prophet Anoyia 8:15
I must return to the cloisters and reflect on keeping myself in control. |
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Amarrians,
find your own thread to discuss such matters... This is our concern not yours. |
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Disciple Of Kesha wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Amarrians,
find your own thread to discuss such matters... This IS our thread. It has been Reclaimed. RECLAIMED! BRILLIANT!
(( Basically don't make anti amarrian comments you cant back up without expecting discussion and debate)) |
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:40:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Clips A'hoy wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Amarrians,
find your own thread to discuss such matters... This is our concern not yours. This is my thread not yours. Just like an Amarrian who violates without thought of offending someone... Brother slow down! Join our cause and be reclaimed! How much do we have to hate you not to offer you a path towards to light? Pray with us not and become a fellow follower of the Lord for you can't see your sinful ways are harmful. I have bestoweth my invitation towards thou do consider it. Submission into bondage is not my style. So many of my brothers and sisters are lost like you. So many. I shall continue the fight against Amarr no matter their slight, their mockery, their ignorance, their persuasions, their false hopes and dreams. I remember when we were enslaved, we were used as meat shields and guard dogs...we had no equal footing. Any man who enslaves and say to you its for your own good is nothing more than hypocrite who methodically uses power and words to forever keep you at the end of the boot. When you speak your mind, they will pull that leash. Then you will be reminded of your place... I shall not submit!!!! I will destroy and decimate before I go into bondage again You cannot possibly remember when you were enslaved. Immortality technology was not present then in modern soldiers.
You cannot make assertions like that when that is not the case. The worst you could have been asked to do was till the fields or fetch some wine.... also if you were meat shields then tell me against who did we use you like such?
(( Dude seriously learn some EVE lore and don't just come at me like every misinformed Dust players does. It gets boring after a while.)) |
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:49:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Good lord True, go out and find yourself a girlfriend. Hit a bowl. Exhale. Relax. And see its not that serious man.
(( Dating now thank you. However if you want to start with all this bullshit about canon and lore try to at least not be lazy enough not to learn about how things went down. It requires 5 mins of your time, and not all that much mental capacity.)) |
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:50:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:((Seriously people you need to learn some ffucking EVE lore because this bullshit has got to stop.
If you're going to role play you have to do it right or else you will be role-playing in a universe populated by only yourself...also you look pretty ******* stupid. Also if I catch any more of Gallente idiot role players I will personally go after you, and only you when I catch you in battle.)) ((Thank you somewhat Sgt Kirk. Some people really have to wise up. It requires minimal effort and is worth it)) |
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:52:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Clips A'hoy wrote:
And yet you do not question the Federation for using the Minmatar as human shields on the front lines? The Federation are nothing but humanistic lapdogs using you for their heresy.
But this is not bondage but simply a path towards the Lord by going through what we've been through to satisfy and help others in the name of God. You can't simply understand as you're lost, but you will soon see that you've been blessed and are alive because of the Lord; he is quick to anger, you must be quicker to repent.
It is for your good as it is for your fellow brothers and sisters, I have once thought the same way as you, but the Lord has pardoned me and Jamyl Sarum blessed me.
Hopefully you will lower your arms and become a part of the empire as such have the Ni-Kunni and the Khanid. This is your last offer.
Minmatars! read and learn from your enlightened brother. Minmatars were maybe not treated exactly as they wanted,but for being equal there needs to be a demonstration of being worthy.Nothing comes for free. When Mataris were aboutto earn this,so close to be exactly equal to amarrs they decided to leave, to persue this false freedom.Now they are USED by the federation.While they are fully armored and well equiped you are still running around in straps of cloth and duct tape.... The main thing that has changed is that now your enemies are stronger. I respect our Minmatar brother Clips, the enlightened one. And i will wield my scrambler rifle next to him,since he is equal to me and we both fight for the same better future... He is perhaps the first and only truly worthy Kamiera to achieve Immortality, as granted by the Empire. |
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Sgt Kirk wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Slavery is a term that people who believe in human rights made up. Really what the amarr did was what the settlers did during the 1600's-1900's did to the native Americans. They forced the Indians to assimilate through a incredibly strict programs. When the Spanish first arrived to the Americas they actually did enslave the Native Americans. What the amarr do is a lot better then what they did. I can see where you're trying to go but no. It's a hybrid of both situations. ((Somewhat and not really at all. You can understand what he means though. There are only very structural similarities between the two. The entire process of both are entirely different.)) |
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Llast 326 wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Slavery is a term that people who believe in human rights made up. Really what the amarr did was what the settlers did during the 1600's-1900's did to the native Americans. They forced the Indians to assimilate through a incredibly strict programs. When the Spanish first arrived to the Americas they actually did enslave the Native Americans. What the amarr do is a lot better then what they did. Colonialism, and it was only tried in many ways it continues and continues to fail. But I doubt we really want to get into an in depth discussion about that if you don't want to derail this thread completely. Though I would note that the First Nations within the continent of America had some incredibly diverse nations with exceptional technology, social structures and capacities beyond what the current state of the Americas. The Iroquois governmental system was the basis for the US constitution after all. Though they messed it up by implementing it as a patriarchal system instead. I have nothing to add on topic >still reading lore Democracy was tried and somewhat tested, Abandoned by its founders twice in known history for more dictatorial forms of governance, it continues to fail today.
(( Real world forms of slavery, and governance cannot be applied to EVE the universe is a different time and place)) |
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