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OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 660	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:25:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone has wondered, what an when will ccp give us that will be enough to buff us an make a scout a scout. Well here's some quick ideas since I ve made an also commented on at least a hundred pages so I'm not gonna repeat major details I ve already typed before with page long descriptions. Cpu pg buff Low/high slot New equipment slot 40db Increased speed, stamina , scanning, range / presicion Less fall damage The ability to maybe move one slot to anywhere on the suit. Redline immunity Cloaking only for scouts Not asking for all of this but enough of these to at least differentiate the scout. K debate!
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 660	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:27:00 - [2] - Quote And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 331	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:31:00 - [3] - Quote OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 1115	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:32:00 - [4] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Everyone has wondered, what an when will ccp give us that will be enough to buff us an make a scout a scout. Well here's some quick ideas since I ve made an also commented on at least a hundred pages so I'm not gonna repeat major details I ve already typed before with page long descriptions. 1 Cpu pg buff 2 Low/high slot 3 New equipment slot 4 40db 5 Increased speed, stamina , scanning, range / presicion 6 Less fall damage 7 The ability to maybe move one slot to anywhere on the suit. 8 Redline immunity 9 Cloaking only for scouts Not asking for all of this but enough of these to at least differentiate the scout. K debate! 20% nothing much more No Yes Yes +1 m/s base speed +2 to sprint, +30 stamina, 20 m base scan radius Yes, if possible No No No
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1090	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:33:00 - [5] - Quote -Cloaking only for scouts -At proto level with 1 Proto profile dampener, Scout should be radar invisible to ALL active scanners -Speed increase -CPU/PG increase -1 more slot (H for Gal, L for Min)
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 660	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:36:00 - [6] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no What do you mean no? They always could ohk anything, an now it's either hit detection or the armor buff, how much damage you think they do now with a mini scout an pro five? I bet it's more than you think + headstrike means goodnight!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 331	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:38:00 - [7] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no What do you mean no? They always could ohk anything, an now it's either hit detection or the armor buff, how much damage you think they do now with a mini scout an pro five? I bet it's more than you think + headstrike means goodnight! Theyve never been able to OHK any suit, keep the damage as is
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 661	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:39:00 - [8] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no It's only a 100 damage different, an if you get behind anyone it should be sleep time
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 684	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:40:00 - [9] - Quote This.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 661	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:41:00 - [10] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no What do you mean no? They always could ohk anything, an now it's either hit detection or the armor buff, how much damage you think they do now with a mini scout an pro five? I bet it's more than you think + headstrike means goodnight! Theyve never been able to OHK any suit, keep the damage as is What are you talking about bro, charge hit they always have for me untill lately

Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1702	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:42:00 - [11] - Quote Wait for eWarfare to come out. I know that's a ridiculous wait but that's what will make scouts scouts. Also, some of the stuff you named sounds like you want scout suits to become reminiscent to CoD: MW2's Commando pro. They weren't made for that ****. The scanning and precision is a desperate needed boost along with CPU and PG. It doesn't need another equipment slot though and definitely doesn't need a speed or stamina boost.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 331	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:43:00 - [12] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no What do you mean no? They always could ohk anything, an now it's either hit detection or the armor buff, how much damage you think they do now with a mini scout an pro five? I bet it's more than you think + headstrike means goodnight! Theyve never been able to OHK any suit, keep the damage as is What are you talking about bro, charge hit they always have for me untill lately Then the people your killing are using weak suits.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 320	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:46:00 - [13] - Quote Should be about what they should take away from other suits. Medium and heavies: No jumping high or far enough not to get hit. No strafing fast enough not to get shot. No turning fast enough to hit a scout. No not being picked up immediately on scanner. Make the scout the only suit that can dance, disappear and ninja stuff.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 331	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:56:00 - [14] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Should be about what they should take away from other suits. Medium and heavies: No jumping high or far enough not to get hit. No strafing fast enough not to get shot. No turning fast enough to hit a scout. No not being picked up immediately on scanner. Make the scout the only suit that can dance, disappear and ninja stuff. 1.jumping is ine 2. If your getting out strafed then your bad 3. All suits are going to be able to customize our sensetivity in 1.5 so no, different turning speeds for suits is just stupid. 4. Just buff scouts radar. Scouts should get faster movment and bedder radar, dont nerf othere suits.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1703	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:00:00 - [15] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Should be about what they should take away from other suits. Medium and heavies: No jumping high or far enough not to get hit. No strafing fast enough not to get shot. No turning fast enough to hit a scout. No not being picked up immediately on scanner. Make the scout the only suit that can dance, disappear and ninja stuff. I haven't seen a post this full of bad ideas since CCP Blam was here.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2005	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:03:00 - [16] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Dexter307 wrote: OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike How about no What do you mean no? They always could ohk anything, an now it's either hit detection or the armor buff, how much damage you think they do now with a mini scout an pro five? I bet it's more than you think + headstrike means goodnight! Theyve never been able to OHK any suit, keep the damage as is Nope I've been OHKO by Nova's before. As an Amarrian I fear nothing more than the Minja.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 661	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:08:00 - [17] - Quote They do 1150 damage
DoubleTap420 ROGUE SPADES EoN. 70	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:11:00 - [18] - Quote With my suit and knife Prof Lev 2 my knives do 1200+ fully charged. Now with the way this game has gone with the armor buff and ehp stacking cause of ttk is so fast I think nova knives need a slight buff. BUT thats just my opinion. And yea to more speed, 40b and scan stuff, cpu/pg, extra low would be nice would rather have that than another equipment slot, and less or no fall damage.
Beck Weathers High-Damage 74	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:51:00 - [19] - Quote I would still like burst jump packs, to let me jump over some rather anoying hills and obsticals, nothing close to flying, maybe just a 3-4x jump. Manevering aroudn the abttle field with speed and grace should bee the scouts job! Flank in a second.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 447	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:58:00 - [20] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Everyone has wondered, what an when will ccp give us that will be enough to buff us an make a scout a scout. Well here's some quick ideas since I ve made an also commented on at least a hundred pages so I'm not gonna repeat major details I ve already typed before with page long descriptions. 1 Cpu pg buff 2 Low/high slot 3 New equipment slot 4 40db 5 Increased speed, stamina , scanning, range / presicion 6 Less fall damage 7 The ability to maybe move one slot to anywhere on the suit. 8 Redline immunity 9 Cloaking only for scouts Not asking for all of this but enough of these to at least differentiate the scout. K debate! 20% nothing much more No Yes Yes +1 m/s base speed +2 to sprint, +30 stamina, 20 m base scan radius Yes, if possible No No No Took the words right outta my keyboard. @OP: Appreciate the sentiment.

Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 1119	Posted - 2013.09.16 04:01:00 - [21] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Killar-12 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Everyone has wondered, what an when will ccp give us that will be enough to buff us an make a scout a scout. Well here's some quick ideas since I ve made an also commented on at least a hundred pages so I'm not gonna repeat major details I ve already typed before with page long descriptions. 1 Cpu pg buff 2 Low/high slot 3 New equipment slot 4 40db 5 Increased speed, stamina , scanning, range / presicion 6 Less fall damage 7 The ability to maybe move one slot to anywhere on the suit. 8 Redline immunity 9 Cloaking only for scouts Not asking for all of this but enough of these to at least differentiate the scout. K debate! 20% nothing much more No Yes Yes +1 m/s base speed +2 to sprint, +30 stamina, 20 m base scan radius Yes, if possible No No No Took the words right outta my keyboard. @OP: Appreciate the sentiment. I try my best...
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 264	Posted - 2013.09.16 04:02:00 - [22] - Quote why the hell do people want minni scouts to get an extra low slot...... I want an extra high slot for damage mods or shield tanking purposes
Extraneus Tenebrarum THE BOSSES 40	Posted - 2013.09.16 04:09:00 - [23] - Quote Biotics , armor repper or to be able to get below the focused scanner. Or maybe thats just me?
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 264	Posted - 2013.09.16 04:14:00 - [24] - Quote Extraneus Tenebrarum wrote: Biotics , armor repper or to be able to get below the focused scanner. Or maybe thats just me? I could see biotics but still. As iv stated, I want my hit and run scout back, not this ****** sneaky scout bull crap
Lightning Bolt2 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 218	Posted - 2013.09.16 04:38:00 - [25] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: -Cloaking only for scouts -At proto level with 1 Proto profile dampener, Scout should be radar invisible to ALL active scanners -Speed increase -CPU/PG increase -1 more slot (H for Gal, L for Min) nearly spot-on, only thing left out is cloaking only for scouts.
Lightning Bolt2 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 218	Posted - 2013.09.16 04:40:00 - [26] - Quote OZAROW wrote: And increase nk damage on proficiency to 5% to compensate the armor buff, knives should be ohk on any suit with a charge strike no, NKs are fine on all but the hit detection and I know this bcause I use knives too.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 661	Posted - 2013.09.16 05:18:00 - [27] - Quote DoubleTap420 wrote: With my suit and knife Prof Lev 2 my knives do 1200+ fully charged. Now with the way this game has gone with the armor buff and ehp stacking cause of ttk is so fast I think nova knives need a slight buff. BUT thats just my opinion. And yea to more speed, 40b and scan stuff, cpu/pg, extra low would be nice would rather have that than another equipment slot, and less or no fall damage. 200x25%=250 250x15% proficiency 5=287 ^uncharged blade Double uncharged 575 Charged =1150 The percentages as far as I kno don't stack They don't for profile damp that's why a mini scout can't beat 15 db If they stacked you would get less 200x40%= 280 Both uncharged =560 Charged=1120 How did you calculate pro two has more?
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 661	Posted - 2013.09.16 05:22:00 - [28] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: why the hell do people want minni scouts to get an extra low slot...... I want an extra high slot for damage mods or shield tanking purposes I think that would be dope, I just don't wanna go gallente to beat the 15 db an I also figured the caldari to have 4/2 since ccp loves caldari
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 661	Posted - 2013.09.16 05:24:00 - [29] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Killar-12 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Everyone has wondered, what an when will ccp give us that will be enough to buff us an make a scout a scout. Well here's some quick ideas since I ve made an also commented on at least a hundred pages so I'm not gonna repeat major details I ve already typed before with page long descriptions. 1 Cpu pg buff 2 Low/high slot 3 New equipment slot 4 40db 5 Increased speed, stamina , scanning, range / presicion 6 Less fall damage 7 The ability to maybe move one slot to anywhere on the suit. 8 Redline immunity 9 Cloaking only for scouts Not asking for all of this but enough of these to at least differentiate the scout. K debate! 20% nothing much more No Yes Yes +1 m/s base speed +2 to sprint, +30 stamina, 20 m base scan radius Yes, if possible No No No Took the words right outta my keyboard. @OP: Appreciate the sentiment. I try my best... It was just a combination of all I have read over the months not my opinion
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 492	Posted - 2013.09.16 05:25:00 - [30] - Quote In the end we want the scout to have a nice role to play. I don't want OPness.



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