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Lightning xVx
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:44:00 -
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So I heard from a little birdy awhile ago about this that we will be receiving in the coming future a Stealth Camo (Equipment slot based) module that will be somewhat (IMO) OP.
I cant remember the stats that he said (they told me this about a month in a half ago) but from what he told me, honestly worried me because I feel that it will make everything OP alongside these classes (Scouts OP, HMG's OP and most of all Shotgunners). So I decided that we can have a debate/discussion on this topic before it becomes incredibly OP and everyone start using it. I will also showcase what is balanced as opposed to "what is cooler". (IMO) I honestly feel that the Active Camo would be better suited for this game, due to the fact that we have light shadows and particle effects that can show case the Predator shadow, stalking it prey instead of them being COMPLETELY invisible from everyone and coming in and out of it.
Active Camo: MGS4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErfzjA4jWbM
Stealth Camo: GR:FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_B5zlprWHQ
P.S.: I don't know if the name of this module is correct, but I heard it comes from the casing of a sword or dagger............ |
Lightning xVx
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:51:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:What was dust cloak like?
I cant remember the numbers but they said it takes A LOT of CPU and PG from the suit. And the fits (Militia, STD, ADV & PROTO) vary in timing/cooldowns. |
Lightning xVx
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:53:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:No.
We are NOT starting discussions of OP-ness before we even know a single stat of the equipment.
This NEEDS TO STOP.
Your entitled to your opinion, but from what he told me from what THEY SAW. Sounds OP to me, I haven't seen this in action but the numbers look pretty intimidating. |
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:19:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:I don't think the difference between these two would be significant. As I have mentioned on another thread, to prevent too much craziness, I think that a cloak like this should be considered equipment that is unique to scouts. I'm iffy about giving medium suits a cloak. Minjas and snipers would benefit most, making stealthy scouts more viable. Long cool down, attacking/hacking/too much movement breaks the cloak, yada yada, don't make people cry about it too much. Also, Nova Swords. That is all.
Thank you, for actually seeing my argument of it. This module (IMO) should be locked for scout suits because if everyone else had it, the game would turn into Predator vs. Predator. With occasional people popping in and out of view. |
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Posted - 2013.09.15 23:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:No.
We are NOT starting discussions of OP-ness before we even know a single stat of the equipment.
This NEEDS TO STOP. I agree completely. Its absolutely stupid to assume something is going to be OP before we even know how it works.
I stated my opinion on it being potentially OP and if was to be available to all suits, then it would greatly hinder this game. Unless there was a way to properly take a sufficient amount of CPU/PG. And I can't remember the stats but Radar and I both discussed it awhile ago after I talked with the guy, who apparently had it on his screen in the market place on his developer PS3. |
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:56:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:tell me how will it be OP for HMG users? we have no equipment slot to equip those things. all the other dropsuits have the equipment slots except for us heavies.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:05:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:tell me how will it be OP for HMG users? we have no equipment slot to equip those things. all the other dropsuits have the equipment slots except for us heavies. Commando Delete Dust.
Delete your account |
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:11:00 -
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The commando suit are technically heavies they have the equipment slot. Now please fall off a cliff. And delete your account |
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:31:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:The commando suit are technically heavies they have the equipment slot. Now please fall off a cliff. And delete your account While they are "heavies", they do NOT have a Heavy Weapon slot. So, why would you reference them when talking about "ohnoes HMG + Cloak = OP!!!!"?
Because I consider them to be heavies, hell they are still deadly at both long range and short. Can you imagine a Commando in cloak with a shotgun, defending a point.....That's pretty scary. If you were a Scout its another thing because you have low health but Commandos are intimidating with a Shotgun in CQC. |
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:37:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:The commando suit are technically heavies they have the equipment slot. Now please fall off a cliff. And delete your account commando suits can't equip HMG or FG. so your talk about HMG = OP because of the camo system is pretty much redundant. i'd suggest you fall off the cliff and delete your account instead since you can't tell the difference between a commando suit and a heavy suit.
May I remind you that they are still in the SAME FRAME and probably the same polygon structure, man you are ******* stupid. They have the same frame as an HMG, thus to ME, they are classified as a Heavy. Nice try though. |
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:44:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:The commando suit are technically heavies they have the equipment slot. Now please fall off a cliff. And delete your account commando suits can't equip HMG or FG. so your talk about HMG = OP because of the camo system is pretty much redundant. i'd suggest you fall off the cliff and delete your account instead since you can't tell the difference between a commando suit and a heavy suit. May I remind you that they are still in the SAME FRAME and probably the same polygon structure, man you are ******* stupid. They have the same frame as an HMG, thus to ME, they are classified as a Heavy. Nice try though. lol me stupid?? coming from the guy who said the HMG will be OP due to the camo system? and now trying to argue with me about the commando suit? you do know that the HMG stands for Heavy Machine Gun right? and its a weapon that can only be used by the heavy suit and not the commando suit.
Thanks for repeatedly bumping this topic btw* But as I stated again and again, TO ME, the Commando suit is a Heavy or an HMG because I classify them as and HMG. They are still Heavies. |
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:47:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:The commando suit are technically heavies they have the equipment slot. Now please fall off a cliff. And delete your account commando suits can't equip HMG or FG. so your talk about HMG = OP because of the camo system is pretty much redundant. i'd suggest you fall off the cliff and delete your account instead since you can't tell the difference between a commando suit and a heavy suit. May I remind you that they are still in the SAME FRAME and probably the same polygon structure, man you are ******* stupid. They have the same frame as an HMG, thus to ME, they are classified as a Heavy. Nice try though. All that means is that they have the same monster hitbox and less EHP than the Sentinel, so the should go down much easier
While that may be true, you also have to factor in the players skill and who they are facing. Just like one Scout can hold down an objective, same could be said about a "Heavy" inside that objective. |
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