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ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 442	Posted - 2013.09.15 11:07:00 - [1] - Quote Never hop in the driver seat of a vehicle that doesn't belong to you. You've just cost that player hard earned ISK and he is no longer able to play at his best. Doing this is the reason why players are asking for locks to keep you out. When gunning, don't shoot at a turret instillation until the driver signals/says it's ok. Shooting at them as soon as you see them will cause it to lock onto the vehicle and kill everyone inside. This is another reason why players are asking for locks. Don't stare at your partner as he exchanges fire with the enemy. If he dies then you're probably gonna die next. Don't butt in when an ally and an enemy are attacking each other with knives. You will royally p*** off BOTH of them. If you are hacking an enemy CRU and your allies start attacking you....STOP HACKING! Your allies are farming kills and you are more than welcome join them but the fun ends if the CRU is captured or destroyed. If a driver/Pilot leaves his vehicle.... GET THE HELL OUT! He is most likely trying to recall it in an attempt to prevent it from being destroyed. This is not possible if there are still players in the vehicle. When dominating in a game of domination, if you see a lone hostile attempt to hack the point... LET HIM! After he finishes you can kill him. The enemy can't spawn on the point so if they capture it you can still hack it back (don't counter hack) for an easy 100 WPs. I'm attempting to do the impossible and restore some semblance of trust for you BBs but it is impossible to do so if you guys keep up such high levels of ignorance. To the vets, I ask that you let me know if there is anything else missing from this list of don'ts. I also ask that you refer the BBs you meat in-game to the "Rookie Training Grounds" section of the forums to ensure they receive as much info as possible. Sure this game has a lot of issues but the biggest problem I think we can all agree on is the new blood that this game keeps getting. If they continue to pick this game up while still clueless than the only results are more frustration, more QQ about OP items, and more players leaving (both good and bad ones). `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Judge Rhadamanthus Seraphim Auxiliaries 379	Posted - 2013.09.15 11:46:00 - [2] - Quote This is the part of the forum where we help people. We do not call them Noobs or any variation of. On top of your insulting thread title your content is full of terrible advice. A disappointing attempt to pass on advice that is aimed at self serving activity and general poor advice.
emm kay fused xenon 6	Posted - 2013.09.15 17:10:00 - [3] - Quote let's break this down. 1) 100% resonable If it is a tank. If it is an LAV, maybe. 2) True it will lock onto you, but vehicle drivers should be aware of this. 3) noobs do it for a reason. they are locating the enemy by watching where you are shooting. 4)You gotta do what you gotta do, I would kill them. 5) people will do waht people do, If that players wants 100 WP for the hack, he'll get them. 6) absolutly ****** advice, sir. overall this post is just spam with 2 slices of bread.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS 12	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:18:00 - [4] - Quote camping the CRU is only good if your team captured the letter closet to first. otherwise your putting your team at risk by letting more misslles be shot at the allied MCC. and it gives them a chance to fight back to reclaim the letter.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 443	Posted - 2013.09.15 21:36:00 - [5] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: camping the CRU is only good if your team captured the letter closet to first. otherwise your putting your team at risk by letting more misslles be shot at the allied MCC. and it gives them a chance to fight back to reclaim the letter. I'm not saying you should always camp the CRU. Sure you need to prioritize and if others are camping it then 9 times out of 10 the objective is already under your control. I suppose I didn't make that clear as I was tired when I typed it up and that is my fault. Thanks for pointing that out. @Judge: I suppose I could've used the term "Blue Berries" but most new players don't even know what the term means. My attempt was not to insult them but to inform them. They are ignorant as they have yet to get used to the game (we are all ignorant at first) and the advice was simply to relieve them of that ignorance. If I came on a little too strong than I wouldn't mind a good rewording as charisma was never my strong suit. Thanks for the feedback. @emm: I see your point and thank you for the comment. I'll try to think of a way to revise the OP in a way that is more sensitive and less...er... crappy. I wouldn't have known what was wrong without you guys so thanks again. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3270	Posted - 2013.09.15 21:59:00 - [6] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: I'm attempting to do the impossible and restore some semblance of trust for you BBs but it is impossible to do so if you guys keep up such high levels of ignorance. This is a frankly disgusting statement to make in a post that's intended to help new players.
Judge Rhadamanthus Seraphim Auxiliaries 384	Posted - 2013.09.15 22:08:00 - [7] - Quote Wow OP. Now i am impressed! The forum Ripped on you and what did you do.... You took it on board and responded with a level of maturity well above the OP. We were quite harsh and you didn't lash back. Quite impressive. Now that is what this section is about.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 443	Posted - 2013.09.15 22:11:00 - [8] - Quote OP edited. Please keep up the feed back as this thread can't get any better without it. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Lorhak Gannarsein Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 390	Posted - 2013.09.17 07:51:00 - [9] - Quote emm kay wrote: let's break this down. 1) 100% resonable If it is a tank. If it is an LAV, maybe. 2) True it will lock onto you, but vehicle drivers should be aware of this. If it's my BPO LAV, go ahead. I'll just call in another one, no biggie. If it's my Chary or Limbus, expect hatemail. Yes. We are aware of this. Which is why we want you out of our tanks.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 454	Posted - 2013.09.17 09:40:00 - [10] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: emm kay wrote: let's break this down. 1) 100% resonable If it is a tank. If it is an LAV, maybe. 2) True it will lock onto you, but vehicle drivers should be aware of this. If it's my BPO LAV, go ahead. I'll just call in another one, no biggie. If it's my Chary or Limbus, expect hatemail. Yes. We are aware of this. Which is why we want you out of our tanks. A new player most likely won't know the difference and so to be on the safe side I say just stay out the driver seat. Again, if there are other things that should be listed or you have comments on the current list then I encourage you to say so. If you have questions about the list than please ask and I will answer to the best of my ability. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 87	Posted - 2013.09.18 09:51:00 - [11] - Quote Don't shoot at someone on your team who is hacking an objective... Oh wait, that's probably from 'experienced' players...newbs don't do that.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 463	Posted - 2013.09.18 10:04:00 - [12] - Quote Blake Kingston wrote: Don't shoot at someone on your team who is hacking an objective... Oh wait, that's probably from 'experienced' players...newbs don't do that. Yea, this is 85% of the time a troll that wants you to stop so they can get WPs. 10% of the time it's players just messing around. 5% of the time it's a newb that has yet to get the hang of things. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 677	Posted - 2013.09.18 10:23:00 - [13] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: Don't shoot at someone on your team who is hacking an objective... Oh wait, that's probably from 'experienced' players...newbs don't do that. Yea, this is 85% of the time a troll that wants you to stop so they can get WPs. 10% of the time it's players just messing around. 5% of the time it's a newb that has yet to get the hang of things. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. And rest of that, like 7.312% (or something, i'm not math) it's a 'veteran' wanting to farm the last red objective. Stupid fucks. NEW GUYS: HACK EVERYTHING IN SIGHT! Farming CRU's and uplinks is dangerous business. Too many times I've seen enemy break out from 'farmed' spawn point, lol.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 463	Posted - 2013.09.18 10:29:00 - [14] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: Don't shoot at someone on your team who is hacking an objective... Oh wait, that's probably from 'experienced' players...newbs don't do that. Yea, this is 85% of the time a troll that wants you to stop so they can get WPs. 10% of the time it's players just messing around. 5% of the time it's a newb that has yet to get the hang of things. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. And rest of that, like 7.312% (or something, i'm not math) it's a 'veteran' wanting to farm the last red objective. Stupid fucks. NEW GUYS: HACK EVERYTHING IN SIGHT! Farming CRU's and uplinks is dangerous business. Too many times I've seen enemy break out from 'farmed' spawn point, lol. lol I suppose that would be better left to the vets and demolition specialists. A player in my "elite" corp likes to use RE to mine up a CRU and set 'em off when players start to spawn. It's so hilarious to watch those bodies get ragdolled through the air lol. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1074	Posted - 2013.09.18 18:16:00 - [15] - Quote I am giving a like for this. 1) It was heavily edited before I saw it, so the post I am liking has been cleaned up from what the original apparently was. 2) The OP took feedback from the community and edited his post to make it better. I like people who are willing to take a little constructive criticism.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1074	Posted - 2013.09.18 18:20:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: I'm attempting to do the impossible and restore some semblance of trust for you BBs but it is impossible to do so if you guys keep up such high levels of ignorance. This is a frankly disgusting statement to make in a post that's intended to help new players. I took it as meaning that it is almost impossible to get jaded vets to trust new players.
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. 57	Posted - 2013.09.18 22:34:00 - [17] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: Don't shoot at someone on your team who is hacking an objective... Oh wait, that's probably from 'experienced' players...newbs don't do that. Yea, this is 85% of the time a troll that wants you to stop so they can get WPs. 10% of the time it's players just messing around. 5% of the time it's a newb that has yet to get the hang of things. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. Sometimes itGÇÖs a team mate trying to warn you about the remote explosive you just missed. I canGÇÖt shoot it, as you will die and no time to swap to team chat either. And sometimes, maybe 0,05% of times, itGÇÖs someone using their logi alt trying to get the rep tool out to heal you while you hack but fails at selecting it and instead shoots you in the back. IGÇÖm truly sorry about thatGÇª
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2013.09.19 00:36:00 - [18] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: Sometimes itGÇÖs a team mate trying to warn you about the remote explosive you just missed. I canGÇÖt shoot it, as you will die and no time to swap to team chat either. Oooh boy, so if you set it off, it still damages team mates? I'd once set a grenade in to clear an objective - kind after dudes were already running in. Yes, quite a few bodies flew at the exact time of my grenade going off. Now I definately know. I'll have to avoid that! But hey, if the RE guy had set it off, same effect... Mind you, I've seen people land a grenade right in front of the objective, go to hack - and all get blown up by an RE anyway. Not sure where it was.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 476	Posted - 2013.09.19 04:26:00 - [19] - Quote Blake Kingston wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: Sometimes itGÇÖs a team mate trying to warn you about the remote explosive you just missed. I canGÇÖt shoot it, as you will die and no time to swap to team chat either. Oooh boy, so if you set it off, it still damages team mates? I'd once set a grenade in to clear an objective - kind after dudes were already running in. Yes, quite a few bodies flew at the exact time of my grenade going off. Now I definately know. I'll have to avoid that! But hey, if the RE guy had set it off, same effect... Mind you, I've seen people land a grenade right in front of the objective, go to hack - and all get blown up by an RE anyway. Not sure where it was. That's poor hit detection from partially concealed REs. That's why you always want to go with flux grenades as it hits through obstacles. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 265	Posted - 2013.09.19 05:03:00 - [20] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: Sometimes itGÇÖs a team mate trying to warn you about the remote explosive you just missed. I canGÇÖt shoot it, as you will die and no time to swap to team chat either. Oooh boy, so if you set it off, it still damages team mates? I'd once set a grenade in to clear an objective - kind after dudes were already running in. Yes, quite a few bodies flew at the exact time of my grenade going off. Now I definately know. I'll have to avoid that! But hey, if the RE guy had set it off, same effect... Mind you, I've seen people land a grenade right in front of the objective, go to hack - and all get blown up by an RE anyway. Not sure where it was. That's poor hit detection from partially concealed REs. That's why you always want to go with flux grenades as it hits through obstacles. There are other ways this can happen that are in no way glitched. You can hide the RE below the platform level on raised objectives. The blast on a grenade tossed onto the platform passes harmlessly above the off-platform RE, but the RE still has line of "sight" on a hacker. This is all the more common since the raised platforms are turning RE's tossed onto them into hockey pucks that visually slide all over the place and eventually end up on the wrong side of the damned objective. Putting the RE off the platform edge isn't even being tricky anymore-- half the time, it's the only reliable way to get them placed at all!

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 335	Posted - 2013.09.19 12:25:00 - [21] - Quote It's a game. People play it and learn as they go. No need to be insulting. If you don't like playing with new people then get a team of experienced people. That would be the better lessonGÇª for leets.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 477	Posted - 2013.09.19 14:50:00 - [22] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's a game. People play it and learn as they go. No need to be insulting. If you don't like playing with new people then get a team of experienced people. That would be the better lessonGÇª for leets. True, it IS always best to play with experienced players but they aren't always available. The thread wasn't meant to insult but it is common for experienced noobs (players that are not all that good) to keep making the same mistakes that you would expect from a newb (inexperienced player). This is why the title is directed to both as apposed to just one or the other. I normally squad up with my corp and have plenty of good moments but, as I said, they are not always available so I am forced to either play with the randoms or switch to my alt and still play with the randoms but using an inferior character. Yea, it's a game and just how much fun can it be to do poorly and not know why? I was trying to provide the "why" so that these players may have an easier time in-game. As I keep saying, if you find something is inaccurate than please say so as I would rather not be misinforming the vary people I'm trying to help. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.


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