Firstly, you can't balance with isk. Not effectively - it'll only affect poor players, whilst the rich laugh.

Secondly, your list is bad.

HMG may have bad dispersion, but it's certainly not underpowered enough to apparently merit half the price.

Flaylocks are meh. A direct damage increase is the only reasonable thought for this.

Shotguns merely need more range.

Lasers are not UP. Have you even tried them recently?

Flux grenades have their purpose - they can affect both infantry and vehicles as well as wrecking equipment, which is very important against uplink spam or explosive traps.

Nova knives aren't underpowered. Those problems are linked to the scout suit. If you get in close enough with nova knives, you can kill anything. A heavy can be two shotted by nova knives.

Scrambler pistols are not underpowered. They have significantly more DPS than the AR, a much QQed about weapon, without even including the massive headshot modifier. If you headshot with a scrambler pistol you can one or two shot nearly any suit.

The assault scrambler rifle is not underpowered. It's practically the same as the AR!

The scrambler rifle is not underpowered. I main this weapon and it's perfectly adequate.


And, once more, you can't balance with isk. Not effectively.

EDIT: Why is this in General Discussion?

why not?

• QQer's are always opposed to getting things buffed
• QQer's are opposed to getting anything nerfed

so, if you cannot balanced through buffs and nerfs. what else is their?

and dn't say anything about skill. If one weapon yeilds fewer results and requieres 3x the skill as a comparable weapon then it is UP.

yeah, because its one of the best ideas. no ones weapon becomes less or more effective. but, people whos play styles have been gimped or are high risk-low reward will now be cheaper encouraging them to run those gimped or extremely niche weapons....


trust me if this is implemented you will see more:

proto shotguns
proto HMGs
proto heavies
proto scouts
proto logis using proto equipment (not just tanking iwht ARs)
more dropships
more scramblers
plasma cannons


and yet, you will still see plenty of

AR users
assault suits
forguns
swarm launchers


the items I mentioned are disadvantaged or gimped. so, they will still die fast to their counter. however, when they die the player won't just say "man this gun sucks imma justuse the FOTM cuz i can't play my play style" instead they'll say "let me try doing things this way..." or "ill try again next match".

[b]
You can call these people no skilled scrubs... but how could they possible practice or get good if their weapon costs them a fortune to use, and they are facing almost impossible odds with a gimped weapon?[b]
the number of dropshipers has decreased because not many people can afford to learn using them, and when they do get decent they get shotdown. something must be done, this is th emost neutral way to fix the problem.

Or, instead of balancing on price, actually balance it?

The rich midis we know as top corps can, and will still pop people with OP guns, regardless of price.

They have infinite ISK.

Since buffing everything is ALOT of work for the developers.
AND
An nerfs would hurt players feelings on their favorite weapons.

I propose an economic solution!

In short. from STD - proto

• Weapons that are UP or extremely niche should have their ISK prices reduced to between 1/2 and 1/3 of what they are now.
• Vehicles and vehicles mods, and turrets should have their prices reduced to 1/3 their cost too.
• drop suits that are UP should have their prices reduced to between 1/2 and 1/3 of their current price

weapons that are UP are as follows:

• HMG
• flaylocks
• Shotguns
• Lazers
• flux grenades (who even uses these beyond std?)
• nova knives
• Scrambler pistols
• Ascr [reduce by 25%]
• Scr [reduce by 25%)
• plasma cannons

this list may be amended

drop suits that are UP:

• Commando suit (reduce to 1/4th the price)
• heavy suit (not milita. reduce by 1/2)
• Scout suits (yes reduce to 1/3 or 1/4. they die too fast to be so costly)
• reduce the price of equipment.

Vehicles:

• LAVs [reduce to 1/2 their current price]
• Dropships [reduce to the current price of LAVs with max cost at 100K-150K at assault level. they blow up in one shot from forges. 70k ISK or less worth of material blowing up 770k worht of dropship and turret mods makes no economic sense. why should anyone every dropship? with a 150k ISK cap, at least you can make back the loss in one match and continue to dropship]
• Tanks [reduce the price to 1/3 the current prices. Common guys, they are tough, but they can't run from the super AV.]

vehicle mods and turrents:
all should have 1/2 the current price or prices equivalent of those of proto weapons at the infantry level.



The above lists will be amended.

conclusion
These are not buffs, or nerfs. These are economic approaches to a growing problem. Most of the pain of having your dropship or tank instant killed by AV is that you lost 1.3 million ISK worth of material in less than a few seconds from 70K or less worth of AV equipment. most of the pain of lossing your proto heavy suit to a milita AR is that 0isk worht of weaponry destroyed 150k worth of material. [probably not from 1 milita AR firing at you, but heavy suits can't particular run away now can they].

Since the advantages of proto gear (other than assault suits and proto ARs) right now are being mitigated due to recent developments, the most neutral way to fix this problem is to make things cost less. Dying 5 times in a milita suit doesnt get me as mad as having a blue berry crash my 1million isk dropship into the dust which is worth 0isk.

comments? sign if you agree.

Since buffing everything is ALOT of work for the developers.
AND
An nerfs would hurt players feelings on their favorite weapons.

I propose an economic solution!

In short. from STD - proto

• Weapons that are UP or extremely niche should have their ISK prices reduced to between 1/2 and 1/3 of what they are now.
• Vehicles and vehicles mods, and turrets should have their prices reduced to 1/3 their cost too.
• drop suits that are UP should have their prices reduced to between 1/2 and 1/3 of their current price

weapons that are UP are as follows:

• HMG
• flaylocks
• Shotguns
• Lazers
• flux grenades (who even uses these beyond std?)
• nova knives
• Scrambler pistols
• Ascr [reduce by 25%]
• Scr [reduce by 25%)
• plasma cannons

this list may be amended

drop suits that are UP:

• Commando suit (reduce to 1/4th the price)
• heavy suit (not milita. reduce by 1/2)
• Scout suits (yes reduce to 1/3 or 1/4. they die too fast to be so costly)
• reduce the price of equipment.

Vehicles:

• LAVs [reduce to 1/2 their current price]
• Dropships [reduce to the current price of LAVs with max cost at 100K-150K at assault level. they blow up in one shot from forges. 70k ISK or less worth of material blowing up 770k worht of dropship and turret mods makes no economic sense. why should anyone every dropship? with a 150k ISK cap, at least you can make back the loss in one match and continue to dropship]
• Tanks [reduce the price to 1/3 the current prices. Common guys, they are tough, but they can't run from the super AV.]

vehicle mods and turrents:
all should have 1/2 the current price or prices equivalent of those of proto weapons at the infantry level.



The above lists will be amended.

conclusion
These are not buffs, or nerfs. These are economic approaches to a growing problem. Most of the pain of having your dropship or tank instant killed by AV is that you lost 1.3 million ISK worth of material in less than a few seconds from 70K or less worth of AV equipment. most of the pain of lossing your proto heavy suit to a milita AR is that 0isk worht of weaponry destroyed 150k worth of material. [probably not from 1 milita AR firing at you, but heavy suits can't particular run away now can they].

Since the advantages of proto gear (other than assault suits and proto ARs) right now are being mitigated due to recent developments, the most neutral way to fix this problem is to make things cost less. Dying 5 times in a milita suit doesnt get me as mad as having a blue berry crash my 1million isk dropship into the dust which is worth 0isk.

comments? sign if you agree.

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