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Martin Luther Keyboard
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:19:00 -
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"I have a dream that one day this game will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We're CCP! We march on fearlessly! Excellent is what we strive to be!, If you're going to follow us to the top, HARDEN THE **** UP!."
I have a dream that one day, the sons of former KB/M users and the sons of former KB/M Discriminators will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of QQers, a state sweltering with the heat of aim assist, sweltering with the heat of raw input, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my ten fingers will one day type to a community where they will not be judged by the input that they grip but by the SP of their characters..
I have a dream today!
That one day, down in the CCP Office, with its vicious racists, with the developers having their lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification"... One day right there in that office, they will not look down on little KB/M boys and KB/M girls and we will be able to join lobbies with little DS3 boys and DS3 girls as sisters and brothers!
I have a dream today!
That one day every input shall be exalted, and every restriction shall be made low, the aim assist will be made plain, and the emulation disposed of; "it is then the glory of the CCP shall be revealed and all clones shall see it together.!" |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
239
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:28:00 -
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1058
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:29:00 -
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oh no they are racists?
disappointed |
Martin Luther Keyboard
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:03:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:oh no they are racists?
disappointed
"We who in engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive." |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3467
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:12:00 -
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Martin Luther Keyboard...
... 6/10. Great name, beaten-to-death topic. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:15:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Martin Luther Keyboard...
... 6/10. Great name, beaten-to-death topic. Yup. |
Martin Luther Keyboard
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:06:00 -
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"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools." |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
241
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:09:00 -
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Martin Luther Keyboard wrote:"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."
Heh, then we will perish together as fools....
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
75
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Posted - 2013.09.15 07:14:00 -
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And then gets assassinated later. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1596
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Posted - 2013.09.15 07:27:00 -
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dirty dirty KB/M users, they should be hanged! |
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2013.09.15 12:57:00 -
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Lol original +1 and semi truth we kb/m users have been drinking from the same **** fountain since Uprising.. |
Martin Luther Keyboard
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:05:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Lol original +1 and semi truth we kb/m users have been drinking from the same **** fountain since Uprising..
"Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can't ride you unless your back is bent.."
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1430
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:07:00 -
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CCP have been treating KB/M users like a disease, like a cultural threat, their superior skills and knowledge something that needs to be remove from this world. That sounds familiar to anyone ;
Genocide
I never thought i will see the day that this will happen in a GAME. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1314
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:11:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:CCP have been treating KB/M users like a disease, like a cultural threat, their superior skills and knowledge something that needs to be remove from this world. That sounds familiar to anyone ? ;
Where do you get this superiority complex from? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1430
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:12:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:CCP have been treating KB/M users like a disease, like a cultural threat, their superior skills and knowledge something that needs to be remove from this world. That sounds familiar to anyone ? ;
Where do you get this superiority complex from?
I didn't say that is the case, but obviously that is what people thinks.
Edit; The worst crimes in history are driven by misconception. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
581
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:50:00 -
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Martin Luther Keyboard wrote:"I have a dream that one day this game will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We're CCP! We march on fearlessly! Excellent is what we strive to be!, If you're going to follow us to the top, HARDEN THE **** UP!."
I have a dream that one day, the sons of former KB/M users and the sons of former KB/M Discriminators will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of QQers, a state sweltering with the heat of aim assist, sweltering with the heat of raw input, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my ten fingers will one day type to a community where they will not be judged by the input that they grip but by the SP of their characters..
I have a dream today!
That one day, down in the CCP Office, with its vicious racists, with the developers having their lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification"... One day right there in that office, they will not look down on little KB/M boys and KB/M girls and we will be able to join lobbies with little DS3 boys and DS3 girls as sisters and brothers!
I have a dream today!
That one day every input shall be exalted, and every restriction shall be made low, the aim assist will be made plain, and the emulation disposed of; "it is then the glory of the CCP shall be revealed and all clones shall see it together.!"
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1432
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Posted - 2013.09.15 14:24:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Martin Luther Keyboard wrote:"I have a dream that one day this game will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We're CCP! We march on fearlessly! Excellent is what we strive to be!, If you're going to follow us to the top, HARDEN THE **** UP!."
I have a dream that one day, the sons of former KB/M users and the sons of former KB/M Discriminators will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of QQers, a state sweltering with the heat of aim assist, sweltering with the heat of raw input, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my ten fingers will one day type to a community where they will not be judged by the input that they grip but by the SP of their characters..
I have a dream today!
That one day, down in the CCP Office, with its vicious racists, with the developers having their lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification"... One day right there in that office, they will not look down on little KB/M boys and KB/M girls and we will be able to join lobbies with little DS3 boys and DS3 girls as sisters and brothers!
I have a dream today!
That one day every input shall be exalted, and every restriction shall be made low, the aim assist will be made plain, and the emulation disposed of; "it is then the glory of the CCP shall be revealed and all clones shall see it together.!" Its not our (KBM people) faults that they want an equal input when looking at it, their control type was designed with Platformers & RPG games in mind, where as FPS games started development for Keyboard at first and then added the Mouse when the game got their Third Dimension, then console got added because the hardware beefed up enough... Its never going to be equal, because their control method is flawed, but since this is a competitive gametype, its their fault to choose the wrong one....and regardless of this is a console bla bla, its always going to be shooter first and foremost... That being said if KBM is at 40% of what it is here then what it actually has to be, i can deal with 40% but even 40% seems to be too much for them to deal with. They should all HTFU and get a KBM setup and a year or so experience...then they will realise they still get beaten the crap out of them, why ? Because they still can't shoot straight .... At the end its still going to be the player, his reaction speed and fine motor control, because there are some fine DS3 users out there.
This have been said to CCP millions of times, by lots of very partial and smart people, and sadly most of them have left the game out of frustration. The "this is a Console game" argument have always been the priority for CCP. Mouse users are evil because they aren't like everyone else. Discriminating people by the device they use, is not worst than discriminating people because they have a different way of thinking, or different color skin.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1315
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Posted - 2013.09.15 14:31:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:This have been said to CCP millions of times, by lots of very partial and smart people, and sadly most of them have left the game out of frustration. The "this is a Console game" argument have always been the priority for CCP. Mouse users are evil because they aren't like everyone else. Discriminating people by the device they use, is not worst than discriminating people because they have a different way of thinking, or different color skin.
Enough of the ridiculous persecution complex already!
CCP could have developed this game for the PC and there would be no doubt that PC inputs would have been the priority. You cannot argue with the fact this this is in fact a console game. There is no need to suggest that console users have to buy/use additional gear just to play Dust on the PS3. Now, if CCP decides to implement that as a policy that would be their decision. For KB/M users to suggest this is just plain delusional.
Mouse users are perfectly fine people -- but playing the persecution card because you don't like the way things are going is a tired game that makes you look foolish.
It's a console game. Get over it. I don't have to be "discriminatory" to say that... now quit trolling already. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1432
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Posted - 2013.09.15 14:41:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:This have been said to CCP millions of times, by lots of very partial and smart people, and sadly most of them have left the game out of frustration. The "this is a Console game" argument have always been the priority for CCP. Mouse users are evil because they aren't like everyone else. Discriminating people by the device they use, is not worst than discriminating people because they have a different way of thinking, or different color skin.
Enough of the ridiculous persecution complex already! CCP could have developed this game for the PC and there would be no doubt that PC inputs would have been the priority. You cannot argue with the fact this this is in fact a console game. There is no need to suggest that console users have to buy/use additional gear just to play Dust on the PS3. Now, if CCP decides to implement that as a policy that would be their decision. For KB/M users to suggest this is just plain delusional. Mouse users are perfectly fine people -- but playing the persecution card because you don't like the way things are going is a tired game that makes you look foolish. It's a console game. Get over it. I don't have to be "discriminatory" to say that... now quit trolling already.
Listen to yourself... is like saying that an African person have not rights in Europe, because the majority of people is white. I hope you don't going into politics any time soon, i fear for our children. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1316
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Posted - 2013.09.15 14:50:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Listen to yourself... is like saying that an African person have not rights in Europe, because the majority of people is white. I hope you don't going into politics any time soon, i fear for our children.
Like I said, quit trolling. You aren't even amusing. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1434
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:05:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Listen to yourself... is like saying that an African person have not rights in Europe, because the majority of people is white. I hope you don't going into politics any time soon, i fear for our children. Like I said, quit trolling. You aren't even amusing.
Power to the People !! My Keyboard brothers, don't lose faith!, the day will come when we will be call "Console Gamer's" and be treated equally !! Don't despair my holy warriors, continue the good fight, our day will come.
we just want to be Console Gamer's, like everyone else. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3484
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:25:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:CCP have been treating KB/M users like a disease, like a cultural threat, their superior skills and knowledge something that needs to be remove from this world. That sounds familiar to anyone ? ; GenocideI never thought i will see the day that this will happen in a GAME. I think saying CCP's actions are akin to the ***** extermination of the Jews is going too far. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
543
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:43:00 -
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But you can't deny the fact that CCP continues to ignore the kb/m player base sure its a console game first but if you remember when Uprising launched reviewers and gamers alike were bitching day and night that the DS3 aiming was jacked...
CCP at least voiced their acknowledgment and tweaked, fixed and over compensated with aim assist.. Now sense DS3 is almost flawless (sure some would argue it needs to be faster) you don't here anymore DS3 users complaining. ..
During that time did you have kb/m players calling DS3 users QQerss and they should just go out and use a kb/m ? No why the hell would us so called elitist try hards push a different input on to that majority of the player base..
The fact is the vocal kb/m community is tired of being handicapped by CCPs virtual joystick and I think we have been more then patient ( This isn't counting the non vocal community who has tried kb/m and left)..
Mr Keyboard is right though, all inputs needs to be free leave DS3 aim assist, open up their turn speeds, set kb/m back to Chromosome (aka raw input) and give us all slider ads hipfire whatever is clever. .
Why should we argue when both inputs want the same thing less restrictions and to play how they want to play... The DS3 is a lot closer to being there then the kb/m is trust me, so its time CCP turn their attention to the minority kb/m player base befote they lose them..
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
582
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:48:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:This have been said to CCP millions of times, by lots of very partial and smart people, and sadly most of them have left the game out of frustration. The "this is a Console game" argument have always been the priority for CCP. Mouse users are evil because they aren't like everyone else. Discriminating people by the device they use, is not worst than discriminating people because they have a different way of thinking, or different color skin.
Enough of the ridiculous persecution complex already! CCP could have developed this game for the PC and there would be no doubt that PC inputs would have been the priority. You cannot argue with the fact this this is in fact a console game. There is no need to suggest that console users have to buy/use additional gear just to play Dust on the PS3. Now, if CCP decides to implement that as a policy that would be their decision. For KB/M users to suggest this is just plain delusional. Mouse users are perfectly fine people -- but playing the persecution card because you don't like the way things are going is a tired game that makes you look foolish. It's a console game. Get over it. I don't have to be "discriminatory" to say that... now quit trolling already.
And they also said that Dust would have native KBM support, i am still not seeing it....their KBM support is still a Virtual one.
Native KBM > Virtual KBM...
If they had said "hey guys we are not uspporting KBM", thats ok, fine ...i would not have bought 2 ps3's consoles and 300-400 euro's of Boosters, in fact i would not be here today...
Seems my money is equal for them, but my KBM input has been a secondary citizen... |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1434
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:48:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:CCP have been treating KB/M users like a disease, like a cultural threat, their superior skills and knowledge something that needs to be remove from this world. That sounds familiar to anyone ? ; GenocideI never thought i will see the day that this will happen in a GAME. I think saying CCP's actions are akin to the ***** extermination of the Jews is going too far.
Ok, maybe that was a bit extreme, but it may you think, right ? "Shock therapy" sometimes is the only way to make people understand. |
Martin Luther Keyboard
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:04:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:[quote=Crash Monster][quote=Banning Hammer] And they also said that Dust would have native KBM support, i am still not seeing it....their KBM support is still a Virtual one.
Native KBM > Virtual KBM...
If they had said "hey guys we are not uspporting KBM", thats ok, fine ...i would not have bought 2 ps3's consoles and 300-400 euro's of Boosters, in fact i would not be here today...
Seems my money is equal for them, but my KBM input has been a secondary citizen...
This is why we must make our voices heard, CCP has continued to delay what they have promised and-á"a right delayed is a right denied.." |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1440
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:58:00 -
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Martin Luther Keyboard wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:[quote=Crash Monster][quote=Banning Hammer] And they also said that Dust would have native KBM support, i am still not seeing it....their KBM support is still a Virtual one.
Native KBM > Virtual KBM...
If they had said "hey guys we are not uspporting KBM", thats ok, fine ...i would not have bought 2 ps3's consoles and 300-400 euro's of Boosters, in fact i would not be here today...
Seems my money is equal for them, but my KBM input has been a secondary citizen... This is why we must make our voices heard, CCP has continued to delay what they have promised and-á"a right delayed is a right denied.."
We already have it in Chromosome, but the DS3 extremist toke the mouse to the incinerators, and the KB/M users have been slowly exterminated in the Uprising build. The DS3 aimbot is the final nail in the coffin. It is actually suicide, considering that all EvE fans are PC gamer's that use KB/M.
So much for ;
EvE
DUST 514 |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
543
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:12:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:We already have it in Chromosome, but the DS3 extremist toke the mouse to the incinerators, and the KB/M users have been slowly exterminated in the Uprising build. The DS3 aimbot is the final nail in the coffin. It is actually suicide, considering that all EvE fans are PC gamer's that use KB/M. So much for ; EvE DUST 514
I couldn't agree more man but unfortently I don't think CCP sees us KB/M users as a threat to their numbers as you can tell there is only a handful of us welling to speak out I'm guessing maybe a dozen or so on the forums..
We are definitely the minority, hence to why we have been getting the cold shoulder from CCP update after update..
But its a damn shame because I too came here from 6yrs of EVE and only PC FPS experience there is no way I could continue to use the mouse and keyboard in its current state.. :(
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1442
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:57:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:We already have it in Chromosome, but the DS3 extremist toke the mouse to the incinerators, and the KB/M users have been slowly exterminated in the Uprising build. The DS3 aimbot is the final nail in the coffin. It is actually suicide, considering that all EvE fans are PC gamer's that use KB/M. So much for ; EvE DUST 514 I couldn't agree more man but unfortently I don't think CCP sees us KB/M users as a threat to their numbers as you can tell there is only a handful of us welling to speak out I'm guessing maybe a dozen or so on the forums.. We are definitely the minority, hence to why we have been getting the cold shoulder from CCP update after update.. But its a damn shame because I too came here from 6yrs of EVE and only PC FPS experience there is no way I could continue to use the mouse and keyboard in its current state.. :(
Is actually very stupid when you think about it, once the PS4 is release, CCP is going to completely relive on EvE fans and PC enlistees to keep the game going. You have to question CCP's marketing strategies, sometimes are pretty hard to understand. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
587
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:16:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:We already have it in Chromosome, but the DS3 extremist toke the mouse to the incinerators, and the KB/M users have been slowly exterminated in the Uprising build. The DS3 aimbot is the final nail in the coffin. It is actually suicide, considering that all EvE fans are PC gamer's that use KB/M. So much for ; EvE DUST 514 I couldn't agree more man but unfortently I don't think CCP sees us KB/M users as a threat to their numbers as you can tell there is only a handful of us welling to speak out I'm guessing maybe a dozen or so on the forums.. We are definitely the minority, hence to why we have been getting the cold shoulder from CCP update after update.. But its a damn shame because I too came here from 6yrs of EVE and only PC FPS experience there is no way I could continue to use the mouse and keyboard in its current state.. :(
I dont mind the DS3 users to have an Aim-assist crutch to lean on, but i would like to get my razor sharp FPS gameplay on here, at least i run consistently in the 30+ kills solo every game now, compared to 3-5 when they "fixed" and made our input better at the start of Uprising (I even received pitty mail back then, at how badly they reduced good slayers to a smidge of their former glory), even midway 1.3 i was doing mediocrely bad with averages of 10-15 a match, i am definatly doing better then chromosone right now....but CCP your not there yet.
Now if i would be able to throw Nades with a mouse button opposed to X.... like i need that finger to move, but noo i need it to hold the grenade ...but the ADS slider in 1.5 is going to be quite helpfull. |
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