if I use codebreakers on my minmitar logi will I still get the hacking bonus of my suit or will it cancel out?
is there a stacking penalty on codebreakers?

yes you still get the bonus and yes theres a stacking penalty

I have Proto-MinLogi that give me 25%speed hacking, My Hack Skill in Lv5 that give me another 25% and 2 Proto-Codebreaker for 25%+25% and this modules not have penalty, for grand total of 100% speed, I used chronometer and only take 3.9s take one cannon installation, with 4 proto modules for 150% I reach 3.4s. but this bonus not have effect when the installation is hack by the enemy and you try to avoid it changes color, I wait (if is possible) the change and hack back and win 100 sp.

I have Proto-MinLogi that give me 25%speed hacking, My Hack Skill in Lv5 that give me another 25% and 2 Proto-Codebreaker for 25%+25% and this modules not have penalty, for grand total of 100% speed, I used chronometer and only take 3.9s take one cannon installation, with 4 proto modules for 150% I reach 3.4s. but this bonus not have effect when the installation is hack by the enemy and you try to avoid it changes color, I wait (if is possible) the change and hack back and win 100 sp.

A lot of people do this. But I don't think the 100 WP you get isn't worth your MCC taking damage for 1 whole minute. That could be one minute that you regret in the end of the game.

regret what? i dont get bonus SP for winning, i get bonus SP for having more WP though

regret what? i dont get bonus SP for winning, i get bonus SP for having more WP though

This is why counter hacking should earn more WP than hacking it in the first place.

This would lead to other issues. If this was the case, would you shoot a hacker while he's hacking?

You get ALOT of bonus isk for winning though. It's like 25% to 50% more than you would get if you lost. Also, 100 SP is what, only 100 WP...? Why not go around looking for kills for that minute or something?

this isnt right, the hacking skill and logi skill takes 50% off the entire hack, the modules only take from the remaining hack time
So
50% - 25% = 37.5%?
37.5% - 25%

See where im going? so you can get hack speed down to like 1.4s i think someone said

You mean a friendly hacker? That would be PC only.

The biggest issue I could see if implemented in Uprising 1.4 would be farming on Oceania and that already happens.

No... Enemy hacker. If you just kill them as it stands, you get 50 Pts and they don't hack.

If you get points higher than a hack amount, if you waited for them to hack then to kill them, then you could get 160+ points for killing and counterhacking.

Good point. Bonus to stopping a hacker?

Hmm... not enough coffee yet to design this feature.

There is NO stacking penalty for code breakers.

I don't think such an exploit would be a problem. Just think of how vulnerable you are whilst counter-hacking.

this

go on take a look at the description

well I check and any place said or indicate stacking penalty

All logi suits have a role bonus off 15% bonus on hacking speed. This was implemeted in the closed beta and is still active. I notce it allways when i compare the hacking time on my regular medium frame gallente suit and my gallente logistic. The minmatarr suit gets the 15% as a role bonus, +25% from the skill itself and you can stack it even more with the hacking skill and modules.

Really? I hate testing things that involve timing.

well i have

minmatar proto logi
and level 5 hacking

and a logi with 4 complex 25 % hack mods


and my hacking isnt instant despite it being reduced 150% according to your theory.

HOW HACKING MODS WORK

base hack time 10 seconds

proto minmatar 25% = 7.5 secoonds
hacking - 25% of 7.5 seconds = 5.625
first codebreaker 25% off 5.625 = 4.21875

it doesnt have a stacking pentalty, but it DOES have a stacking penalty becuase of how math works.

every 25% is taken into account seperatly and NOT added together.

this mean that every module is reducing the amount of time by less and less simply because there is less time to reduce.

but they are all counting full a full 25% of what left of the timer



think of it as deminishing returns rather then a stacking penalty, they mean the same thing but exsist for different reasons.

stacking penalty on damage mods is coded in to counteract the compounding of adding percentages

stacking penalty on codebreakers/dampeners/anything that reduces a value is built into the math used

I've seen a Minmatar Logi hack an objective in seconds and then run as faster than a Scout to the next objective(at least 10+ m/s) to repeat the process. So yes, that can work pretty damn well.

Well, you really have point, apart a lot free time to make maths
I take using chronometer only 3.9s well let put in 4s with 100%hack combo and with 150%hack combo a take installation in 3.5s.

Logi's are the wonder unit. It's like an Assault Scout Heavy all wrapped up inside one neat little heal package.

Go Logi or go home

if I use codebreakers on my minmitar logi will I still get the hacking bonus of my suit or will it cancel out?
is there a stacking penalty on codebreakers?