|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1672
   |
Posted - 2013.09.13 13:52:00 -
[1] - Quote
there was a meeting... as for 'who' asked for peace, well I wasn't there for most of it.
When I came in the consensus was that both sides wanted to end the 'war'
both sides were even in agreement on the major reason for the war... land
eon (at least myself... Team Players) agreed that 1 corp holding 33% of Molden heath was an EXTREME imbalance, and I was all for restoring balance to Molden Heath for more corps to enter, and basically 'reset' the map so we could do all this again sometime in the near future.
That much was agreed upon..
I said I would be happy to sell a good portion of my holdings (which I have and continue to do).
that's where the conversation went south..
other high ranking officers believed that I should simply 'GIVE' my land to them.. abandon the districts we worked so hard to attain over time, in exchange for....nothing
sorry, but I would rather weave myself a straw hat and plow the fields of my lands and generate a pile of ISK than simply abandon districts.
the second someone buys a district from me, It decreases my revenue. I'm fine with that, but apparently that wasn't good enough for some, and I left the meeting.
over the next few days attacks became more and more sporadic, and corps began leaving the FEC, while others suffered from activity drops due to final Fantasy and who knows what other games (dust just isn't that good :( )
so to my knowledge I don't think there's been any 'official' end to the war (although there should be) |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1672
|
Posted - 2013.09.13 14:13:00 -
[2] - Quote
Deranged Disaster wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:there was a meeting... as for 'who' asked for peace, well I wasn't there for most of it.
When I came in the consensus was that both sides wanted to end the 'war'
both sides were even in agreement on the major reason for the war... land
eon (at least myself... Team Players) agreed that 1 corp holding 33% of Molden heath was an EXTREME imbalance, and I was all for restoring balance to Molden Heath for more corps to enter, and basically 'reset' the map so we could do all this again sometime in the near future.
That much was agreed upon.. Half of the time you did not speak and the other half of the time you were going on about locking down your own districts and being able to do this all day untill we come to an agreement or stop attacking. Don't try to reply to this as if you've got some integrity in you. If you thought it was "EXTREME" imbalance what you had in your hands, you wouldn't have locked down your own districts. My bad side says I should cuss you out right now for being a hypocrite but I'll refrain for now. All I'm gonna throw out is that you abused a major exploit and even after your "diplomat" told us he will personally turn around and go against Teamplayers if it is confirmed to be an exploit, which did get confirmed as an exploit by the developers themselves by the way, he completely dissapeared, plus, you drove off alot of new corporations with competitive aspirations from the game that wanted to experience PC. And since I can't stop this rant without cussing you out, yeah, go **** yourself.
actually I wasn't in the chat til much later. I spoke most of the 7 or 8 minutes I was in there.
No you are not making things up. I said that stuff. 'protecting our investment' was the reasoning. Was it right? no. is it an exploit? yes
were/are we the only ones that have/currently do it? not by a longshot...
I locked things down cause, what most obviously don't see, is that my players were all geared for Final Fantasy and before this 'war' even started I had a date that over half my primary players were going to be marathoning FFXIV for a while.
all this was just convenient timing. I locked them and unlocked them as buyers surfaced. your plan of just sending bodies at lands with no skill/organization/talent whatsoever failed...miserably.
you should be happy I saved you guys piles of ISK, but I really didn't post to rub anyones face in the mud. just enlightening some that weren't aware of my view on the topic.
|
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1672
|
Posted - 2013.09.13 14:58:00 -
[3] - Quote
Deranged Disaster wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:actually I wasn't in the chat til much later. I spoke most of the 7 or 8 minutes I was in there.
No you are not making things up. I said that stuff. 'protecting our investment' was the reasoning. Was it right? no. is it an exploit? yes
were/are we the only ones that have/currently do it? not by a longshot...
I locked things down cause, what most obviously don't see, is that my players were all geared for Final Fantasy and before this 'war' even started I had a date that over half my primary players were going to be marathoning FFXIV for a while.
all this was just convenient timing. I locked them and unlocked them as buyers surfaced. your plan of just sending bodies at lands with no skill/organization/talent whatsoever failed...miserably.
you should be happy I saved you guys piles of ISK, but I really didn't post to rub anyones face in the mud. just enlightening some that weren't aware of my view on the topic.
When your players are irresponsible and you are busy, you simply let nature take its course. Saying "lol we were away sorry" is a horrible excuse and you should know it, I think you are mature enough to understand some things when it comes to publicly saying these kindergarden excuses to save you the bad "press". Now as far as the land being YOUR investment, yes, around 16 percent of it. The rest was Ill Omens districts that were GIVEN to you, Pure Innocence districts that were GIVEN to you and small corporations you decided to attack because they didn't pay you "security" once they bought their district from you so stop talking about your blood sweat and tears that were shed over these distrcts. Set aside the fact that you knew it was a negative exploit and yet you still decided to do it while your very own corporation was founded on supposed fair fights, team work and integrity plus your members constantly moaning about flaylocks when they were at their glory shows how much hypocricy you have going on. Another thing I'd like to mention, you weren't down for restoring balance at all, stop masking your bullshit for once and speak clearly. Maybe you'll get some respect for once. You're not good for politics nor policing MH, stop making yourself look worse.
please let me know when I give 2 $h1ts about politics.
IO had 34 districts when we took them over.. you wanna know how many Team Players took? 1
which was sold a short time after.
I got 5 from PI when they bowed out of PC... how many do I have now? 1
land means nothing to me.. its ISK, either from farming, or from selling. and please, for the 697th time, provide an example of me attacking a small corporation taking a district that I sold them.
please. Im begging you, let me know. Ive sold well over 100 districts, and to this day have not attacked a single 1.
before the war? no I wasn't for balance... we wanted it all and were working toward just that. all this is talking about after the war when both sides met trying to form a 'truce' of sorts. so yes I changed my tune at that time, agreeing to relinquish some holdings.
seriously tho... tell me when I attacked a small corp that I sold land to and completely backstabbed em??
just....1.....example. im not asking much, I mean ive done this soooo many times it should be easy to point out this misdeed.. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1673
|
Posted - 2013.09.13 15:37:00 -
[4] - Quote
Deranged Disaster wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:just....1.....example. im not asking much, I mean ive done this soooo many times it should be easy to point out this misdeed.. CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Another satisfied customer that seemed to think owning land gave them rights to keep it. U know of all the land I've sold not a single corp has taken out the insurance policy I offered. Likely cause its not cheap, but since when are guarantees cheap? XeroTheBigBoss wrote:True Adamance wrote:Um in latest scandals rumours are about about EoN loss of integrity with many small indie corps claiming to have been blindsided by EoN corps which claimed to want to support indie acitvities.
Substanceless claims have surfaced of EoN selling districts only to take them back by force later, while other indie corps are up in arms about the weaker indie corps simply hiring entire EoN teams to fight for them. I think Indie corps are being delusional. Even if EoN sold you land, if you don't buy the insurance plan we offer than keeping your land is NOT a promise. We don't sell it and attack it the next day however. We usually give a good 2 weeks or so. Had enough?
ooo nice, continuously taking random quotes out of context..
I want an example.. Team Players sold district X to corp Y
Team Players later attacked and took district X from corp Y
trying to generate truth and facts out of forum posting.. you must work for some cheap knockoff tabloid.
now please... name just 1 |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1673
|
Posted - 2013.09.13 15:38:00 -
[5] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:there was a meeting... as for 'who' asked for peace, well I wasn't there for most of it.
When I came in the consensus was that both sides wanted to end the 'war'
both sides were even in agreement on the major reason for the war... land
eon (at least myself... Team Players) agreed that 1 corp holding 33% of Molden heath was an EXTREME imbalance, and I was all for restoring balance to Molden Heath for more corps to enter, and basically 'reset' the map so we could do all this again sometime in the near future.
That much was agreed upon..
I said I would be happy to sell a good portion of my holdings (which I have and continue to do).
that's where the conversation went south..
other high ranking officers believed that I should simply 'GIVE' my land to them.. abandon the districts we worked so hard to attain over time, in exchange for....nothing
sorry, but I would rather weave myself a straw hat and plow the fields of my lands and generate a pile of ISK than simply abandon districts.
the second someone buys a district from me, It decreases my revenue. I'm fine with that, but apparently that wasn't good enough for some, and I left the meeting.
over the next few days attacks became more and more sporadic, and corps began leaving the FEC, while others suffered from activity drops due to final Fantasy and who knows what other games (dust just isn't that good :( )
so to my knowledge I don't think there's been any 'official' end to the war (although there should be) Yeah you should totally give up a majority of your land for free just because...lol. Who in the Hell thought you would agree to that? Sheesh, at least your selling the land. Yeah "selling" the land. I don't count it as a sale if they take it back 2 weeks later.
even though this hasn't happened in the 2+ MONTHS ive been selling districts.. within 10 days you are turning a profit anyway FYI.
just sayin... |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1673
|
Posted - 2013.09.13 15:45:00 -
[6] - Quote
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:just....1.....example. im not asking much, I mean ive done this soooo many times it should be easy to point out this misdeed..
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Another satisfied customer that seemed to think owning land gave them rights to keep it. U know of all the land I've sold not a single corp has taken out the insurance policy I offered. Likely cause its not cheap, but since when are guarantees cheap?
I do love this post that you and hardscrub or whatever alt that is continually points out..
that's a quote taken from some random player in a corp that purchased a district from me at some point.
they got attacked by some other random corp (by random I mean relatively unheard of, not part of a major alliance etc.)
they got attacked, and lost their district. u know... part of what happens in a war game.
did Team Players have anything to do with the attack? or the match itself? No.
comments about insurance are simply for the additional fee we would have guaranteed either defending it, or taking it back when timing was best for us, thus the purchaser would not lose the land.
but please, with sugar on top, give me an example, I know every corp I have sold districts to, and even recall most of the districts that were lost after sale, so please I just want names, or someone from a supposed corp I wronged to step up and tell me where I attacked them and took the land they bought from me...
please 
|
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1673
|
Posted - 2013.09.13 15:58:00 -
[7] - Quote
ok well just let me know when you or anyone for that matter can provide 1 example
all I asked ;-)
I don't care how you or others perceive me. I really don't
that's not disrespect to you or anyone, just the simple fact I don't waste my time on the forums trying to gain acceptance from a community.
I state my opinions, often spend more time than I should refuting allegations, and in some case man up and apologize or recant comments for stepping out of line myself.
just like now.. I spend too much time simply trying to get a straight answer, and you continue singing the same song.. broken record tactic but the problem is when the lyrics hit, the record skips cause I still haven't heard the chorus....
o well now im sounding like a broken record so ill stop |
|
|
| |
|