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Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 169	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:09:00 - [1] - Quote I've been getting nothing but blue flare almost everytime I shoot someone with it. It doesn't matter if their in militia fit or proto it STILL DOES NOT REGISTER. I try to have faith in you CCP, I've been here since closed beta. But you honestly make me want to delete my accounts and tell everyone not to play this game. You need to straighten up your act on getting core mechanics down or else NO ONE will play this game, even with a F2P tag on it.
General John Ripper The Generals EoN. 2406	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:10:00 - [2] - Quote calm down.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 69	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:12:00 - [3] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: I've been getting nothing but blue flare almost everytime I shoot someone with it. It doesn't matter if their in militia fit or proto it STILL DOES NOT REGISTER. I try to have faith in you CCP, I've been here since closed beta. But you honestly make me want to delete my accounts and tell everyone not to play this game. You need to straighten up your act on getting core mechanics down or else NO ONE will play this game, even with a F2P tag on it. UR OP
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 169	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:13:00 - [4] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: calm down. I've been calm since closed beta being hopeful but enough is enough. I can't even enjoy my suit let alone the weapon I want to use. I'm not even asking for nerfs or buffs just fix it. What is so hard about? It's a CQC weapon.... Not mid or long range.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 505	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:32:00 - [5] - Quote Shotgun not working? This guy disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs&feature=youtu.be
Shattered Mirage The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 193	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:38:00 - [6] - Quote They'll get around to fixing that.... eventually. Not that you need it; going 22-0 with it. By the way, my corporation want to know if you're interested in joining one.
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 169	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:41:00 - [7] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Shotgun not working? This guy disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs&feature=youtu.be I understand what your trying to do but not every Scout has montages everyday. Sure, jolly got hits with the shotgun but what about every other time? Or the fact that the shells have a phantom effect and shoot delayed targets as opposed to on-target? Say what you want it's still the same for me. I have EVERYTHING invested in my shotgun and it hasn't been improved, just slightly adjusted. 18m+ SP
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 169	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:43:00 - [8] - Quote Shattered Mirage wrote: They'll get around to fixing that.... eventually. Not that you need it; going 22-0 with it. By the way, my corporation want to know if you're interested in joining one. I really appreciate the offer but this build has been nothing but nightmares for a shotgunner. And if that scout buff doesn't help, I'm just going to delete my account. Why invest in something if it gets worse each build?
Shattered Mirage The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 194	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:47:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Shattered Mirage wrote: They'll get around to fixing that.... eventually. Not that you need it; going 22-0 with it. By the way, my corporation want to know if you're interested in joining one. I really appreciate the offer but this build has been nothing but nightmares for a shotgunner. And if that scout buff doesn't help, I'm just going to delete my account. Why invest in something if it gets worse each build? I really feel bad for you scouts.... always getting the short end of the stick. Well, if you ever need or want to join a corporation, the Enclave Syndicate is always looking for talented players.
Dengru SyNergy Gaming EoN. 110	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:51:00 - [10] - Quote it's really all the same issues that were supposedly addressed but evidently were just minimized. Not sure why it's so hard to fix these issues, but it's pretty silly. Can get good results but doesn't change that the core problems are still there.

Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 169	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:54:00 - [11] - Quote Dengru wrote: it's really all the same issues that were supposedly addressed but evidently were just minimized. Not sure why it's so hard to fix these issues, but it's pretty silly. Can get good results but doesn't change that the core problems are still there. That's what I'm saying it worked amazing the day after they fixed it. Then 2 days later it continues down the downward spiral, again....And I'm just getting tired of even trying anymore. -_-
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 465	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:00:00 - [12] - Quote I dunno, I just went 24/5 with a Militia Shotgun tonight with zero SP invested in Shotty Skills in the fit below. Granted the opposing team was pretty damn stupid. They kept ignoring me(probably because they couldn't see me on their radar bwhahaha) and just kept at trying to hack the objecting and I kept shooting them one by one then hiding around a hill. I did manage to kill moving targets as well. Not saying there isn't a problem just my experience tonight is all. I didn't use the shotty much before 1.4 so I couldn't tell you how much it has changed. Adv Minmatar Scout dropsuit Highs: 1x Complex Shield Extender, 1x Basic Shield Extender Lows: x2 Advanced Kinetic Catalizers Weapons: Militia Shotgun, Breach SMG Grenades: Std Locus
dustwaffle Ill Omens 489	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:03:00 - [13] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: But you honestly make me want to delete my accounts and tell everyone not to play this game. Do it. EDIT: Oh and biomass the characters just to be on a safe side. Don't want CCP claiming more players based on character count, do you?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8406	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:07:00 - [14] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Shotgun not working? This guy disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs&feature=youtu.be Awesome Vid.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 303	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:09:00 - [15] - Quote Shotguns are fine - flare is still frequent but most of the time it's a laggy connection or my aim. :( sad panda
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 171	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:15:00 - [16] - Quote BARDAS wrote: I dunno, I just went 24/5 with a Militia Shotgun tonight with zero SP invested in Shotty Skills in the fit below. Granted the opposing team was pretty damn stupid. They kept ignoring me(probably because they couldn't see me on their radar bwhahaha) and just kept at trying to hack the objecting and I kept shooting them one by one then hiding around a hill. I did manage to kill moving targets as well. Not saying there isn't a problem just my experience tonight is all. I didn't use the shotty much before 1.4 so I couldn't tell you how much it has changed. Adv Minmatar Scout dropsuit Highs: 1x Complex Shield Extender, 1x Basic Shield Extender Lows: x2 Advanced Kinetic Catalizers Weapons: Militia Shotgun, Breach SMG Grenades: Std Locus Things that I have come across while fighting one person or multiple enemies at once: 1.) Phantoming Shells- You have delayed shots and it shoots behind them or in front of them (nowhere near them) and kills them. 2.) Stun Locking- Happens very briefly but happens most often when taking either direct fire or shot multiple times in the back by full auto weaponry. 3.) Blue Flare- Shots hit target but nothing is registered. 4.) Phantom Running- Your body actually is hit easier whilst running as opposed to just walking. 5.) Cross Shots-Laggy rooms will cause a slight homing-esque type of shot that will either FULLY kill ANY SUIT in one hit or completely do nothing. And I have taken proto logi's out in one hit when I know its bullshit. 6.) Range Dropoff- Shooting at enemies from either up close/ far will either BARELY do any damage or nothing at all. (I shot people before while they are just STANDING STILL and it still doesn't register anything, even if its a head shot....Really?!
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 171	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:16:00 - [17] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: But you honestly make me want to delete my accounts and tell everyone not to play this game. Do it. EDIT: Oh and biomass the characters just to be on a safe side. Don't want CCP claiming more players based on character count, do you? Deleting characters wont be a problem, I'm more concerned if they (CCP) even get core mechanics right. Because if that goes, players go.
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 171	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:29:00 - [18] - Quote Oh and I forgot one more thing my favorite bullshit move of them all against shotgunners: When fighting someone and they jump midway (not peak but mid way) it will almost ALWAYS negate a shot from a shotgun. Unless they hit the peak of the jump then it registers. There's another glitch CCP, your welcome.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 178	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:32:00 - [19] - Quote Dengru wrote: it's really all the same issues that were supposedly addressed but evidently were just minimized. Not sure why it's so hard to fix these issues, but it's pretty silly. Can get good results but doesn't change that the core problems are still there. Yepp I get very mixed result regarding hit detection and damage dealt with the shot gun. The situation has improves no question but my results are just not as reliable as I would like them to be.
Dengru SyNergy Gaming EoN. 110	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:36:00 - [20] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Oh and I forgot one more thing my favorite bullshit move of them all against shotgunners: When fighting someone and they jump midway (not peak but mid way) it will almost ALWAYS negate a shot from a shotgun. Unless they hit the peak of the jump then it registers. There's another glitch CCP, your welcome. yes I've noticed that! What's great is that this game is full of people who when engaged, instead of , will just wildly bunnyhop away all their stamina, so it's strafing we constantly encounter. Now it's even better with the improved hit detection they'll melt you with their full auto spray while glitching through your shots with their bunnyhops

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 181	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:48:00 - [21] - Quote I think you should only be able to equip AV nades if you already have a designated AV weapon fitted. Such as Swarms, Plasma Cannon, or the Forge Gun. Edit: Why did this get posted in the wrong thread... weird? I've never been here before.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 280	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:55:00 - [22] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Shotgun not working? This guy disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs&feature=youtu.be lol thats a collection of clips for older builds forward to 2:20 i dont remember forgeguns having the lightball on it for along time
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1085	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:49:00 - [23] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Shotgun not working? This guy disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs&feature=youtu.be This guy agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9QZNSzaFk Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1294743 * Kindly note that this test was performed post-fix.
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 172	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:54:00 - [24] - Quote Like I said I love the shotgun it used to be effective as hell and the best hybrid weapon I have come across. But now it's so unreliable it's like your g/f going away to college and everytime she comes back she lies about how many guys she's seen. xD
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 310	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:58:00 - [25] - Quote The problem seems to be that the shotgun shoots where you last shot and not where your currently aiming Here's a video I took of it (sorry for the bad quality, it was taken with a phone) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9QZNSzaFk
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 2397	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:01:00 - [26] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: The problem seems to be that the shotgun shoots where you last shot and not where your currently aiming Here's a video I took of it (sorry for the bad quality, it was taken with a phone) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9QZNSzaFk I really hope thats just a graphical error. Should test it out on a red.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1085	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:09:00 - [27] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Dexter307 wrote: The problem seems to be that the shotgun shoots where you last shot and not where your currently aiming Here's a video I took of it (sorry for the bad quality, it was taken with a phone) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9QZNSzaFk I really hope thats just a graphical error. Should test it out on a red. I'd be inclined to agree if only the muzzle flash was off. The pellets in this video appear to strike the wall far left of shot. Potentially good news, if bugged. A fix would remedy AR dominance at SG range.
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 176	Posted - 2013.09.13 17:02:00 - [28] - Quote That makes me wonder.... If CCP fixed "what was wrong" then what did they fix? Can we have a DEV explain fully please.
Lightning xVx Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 176	Posted - 2013.09.13 17:20:00 - [29] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Shotgun not working? This guy disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs&feature=youtu.be This guy agrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9QZNSzaFk Also, this guy agrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJOXIvbhHeo Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1294743 * Kindly note that these tests were performed post-fix. That's just by one person, I have gotten that MULTIPLE times, I'm glad someone has proof
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 387	Posted - 2013.09.13 18:05:00 - [30] - Quote I have had mixed results, now mind you I run a logi most of the time and just run a militia scout with a militia shotty because well its cheap as hell and I do have some good matches when I get flaked up on the enemy team.... Head to head is dicey with the hit detection as some shots that were no doubt about it on target miss almost as if the shot from the gun has a lot of travel time as opposed to the shots from an AR are instantaneous same for the SCR but why would shot round have longer travel time?



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