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Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2013.09.12 22:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:1) CCP reviews numerous requests to balance the automatic assault rifle.
2) CCP is assured by AR users that the weapon is perfectly fine as is.
3) CCP observes AR performance spikes across all combat metrics and engagement ranges.
4) CCP reports that they are closely monitoring the AR situation.
5) Rebalance is postponed, as to avoid irritating the competitive playerbase.
6) AR proliferation increases, as folks seek to survive and compete.
7) Rebalance is postponed, as to avoid irritating an ever-growing playerbase. 8) Mass Drivers are making a comeback, and all sorts of other weapons litter the field. I have MD millions of SP in MDs. Trust me when I say they are NOT making a comeback. Well that makes you a scrub because MDs are racking up over 60% of my deaths. ARs don't particularly shoot around cover, MDs can.
ARs don't have to shoot around corners, they seem to shoot THROUGH them enough to be noticeable. Furthermore, MDs aren't making a comeback, they're dying back in droves. Unless you're on one of the other servers like Oceania, the US servers are naught but ARs, Snipers, and the occasional Laser Rifle. Even a great deal of the heavies are using the AR because they feel it is equally effective as the HMG, but costs less to fit.
Also, a scrub? Really? You're a bloody CPM member, act it! You don't see senators fling slurs at their constituents, do you? |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.12 22:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Well that makes you a scrub because MDs are racking up over 60% of my deaths. ARs don't particularly shoot around cover, MDs can.
ARs don't have to shoot around corners, they seem to shoot THROUGH them enough to be noticeable. Furthermore, MDs aren't making a comeback, they're dying back in droves. Unless you're on one of the other servers like Oceania, the US servers are naught but ARs, Snipers, and the occasional Laser Rifle. Even a great deal of the heavies are using the AR because they feel it is equally effective as the HMG, but costs less to fit. Also, a scrub? Really? You're a bloody CPM member, act it! You don't see senators fling slurs at their constituents, do you? Senators are politicians. CPM are players.
CPM are players with the responsibility to represent the rest of us at the personal level with CCP themselves. You have far too high of a position to casually snub players over your personal experience, especially without numbers or testing behind your claims. YOU ARE A POLITICIAN. You may not have been elected to your office, but it's your behavior here that reflects on CCP making the choice to 'hire' you. Every slip-up here condemns not just you, but the ones who put you where you are. Furthermore, does being a player allow you to be an asshat? Is that a requirement to be a player? Act like you deserve your position. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.12 23:11:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:As an AR user, I have to agree. They are A LITTLE overpowered.
Easy solution.
Breach variant: High damage, slow ROF, short-ish effective range. It's fine, no need to touch.
Tac variant: High damage, low ammo capacity, semi-auto, higher effective range. (but still lower range than laser) It's fine.
Burst variant: This weapon could use a little love. I'd say give first 3shot burst more accuracy. Subsequent bursts what it currently has. HOWEVER, even if left as it is, it's ok.
Regular variant (GEK38/Duvolle/etc): This is the main culprit of what ppl are complaining about. Easy solution. Lower its ROF. Currently its 750, drop it down to around 650.
This fixes many things.
A. It makes the Breach/Burst variants more viable options to the regular AR. (since by nerfing it, you are inherently buffing the other versions)
B. This makes all the other CQC weapons viable options. By lowering ROF to 650, you are raising the TTK. This makes shotty, SMG, HMG, etc all MUCH more effective against AR in CQC situations. Still balanced, because the CQC weapons lose potency at range pretty quickly.
C. This fixes the "DUST is turning to a COD shooter" argument since TTK is raised.
This would make the AR the "jack of all trades" weapon it should be, while not quite the master of all.
Actually, the TAR has better range than both the Laser weapons. In fact, the Regular does too. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.12 23:23:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:
Actually, the TAR has better range than both the Laser weapons. In fact, the Regular does too.
Not so, someone just did a chart demonstrating how the Laser does the most damage at longer range. I believe it was Aeon Amandi. The Tac is better up until around the 70-80m range (if I remember correctly) but the laser outclasses it beyond that.
Yes, but the TAR and AR are still competitive with the LR at that range, and the minute you take a step back the LR immediately loses its optimal and goes straight into Absolute. The LR has a sweetspot, yes, but it is a SPOT. It is very effective at exactly 81 meters and nowhere else.
I said BETTER ranges, not LONGER ones. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:57:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Shadow of War88 wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:1) CCP reviews numerous requests to balance the automatic assault rifle.
2) CCP is assured by AR users that the weapon is perfectly fine as is.
3) CCP observes AR performance spikes across all combat metrics and engagement ranges.
4) CCP reports that they are closely monitoring the AR situation.
5) Rebalance is postponed, as to avoid irritating the competitive playerbase.
6) AR proliferation increases, as folks seek to survive and compete.
7) Rebalance is postponed, as to avoid irritating an ever-growing playerbase. 8) GTA 5 is released n no1 gives a fuk anymore Am I the only person that didn't like GTA 4, and have no plans to ever play 5??? 
No, you aren't :D |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.14 16:46:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:The AR just needs a MINOR adjustment. Mostly to the militia/std variants. (but even the Gek and Duvolle could have their TTK raised by a couple %)
I say this, but am also worried that if CCP decides to actually go thru with a nerf, that they will OVER nerf the AR.
Feh, let it be the AR's turn to be nerfed into the dirt, twas a long time coming.
As for the guy that whined about ARs being not OP because they can't solo a tank: lolwut? It would be OP if it could do that, yes, but that isn't the sole readout on whether a gun is OP. The TAR, Viziam, and Flaylock couldn't kill tanks, but what did everyone say about them? |
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