You are absolutely correct. I do not play 'Assault Logi'. Never have, never will. But when people get out the torches and pitchforks because they feel like a few players are abusing a fitting platform (and they are wrong) then that has the potential to impact me, a 'True" Logi, in a negative way.

I am not on here defending 'Assault Logi's'. I am here saying that it is a non-issue. In other words:

"These are not the droids, you're looking for. Move along...move along."

Why would you only use a standard sidearm on a Minmatar assault?

Speed is a big freaking deal, something that you'd know if you actually tried playing logi and compared it to other suits. The most important bit isn't the raw speed number, but the stamina. When a smart player sees himself about to get flanked he turns and sprints into a new fighting position. You can't do that if you're out of stamina, which logis often are because everyone moving faster than us means we need to sprint constantly to keep up with everyone else. This isn't about winning a marathon, it's about being able to react to the battlefield. A LAV doesn't help you on the second floor of a building.

Scout speed wasn't nerfed because of logis, it was nerfed because this game can't run at 60FPS and AR nerds can't aim for **** when it comes to moving targets- remember all the butthurt when the strafing cap was removed in 1.2? Stop blaming everything on logistics.

Scout speed wasn't nerfed because of logis, it was nerfed because this game can't run at 60FPS and AR nerds can't aim for **** when it comes to moving targets- remember all the butthurt when the strafing cap was removed in 1.2? Stop blaming everything on logistics.

I think Mike Shanahan is the devil, but I'm not going to go around spouting it without citing evidence.

They're all still using Caldari logistics or Caldari assaul- OMG... NERF CALDARI!!!

And what weapon do you see them using? Let's call a spade a spade here because you know what I'm talking about. The damn thing is so powerful that you don't even need to use a sidearm since it's an instant "I win button." It's not the suit, but the weapon.

Well I believe originally I was responding to all the widespread allegations regarding straight up head to head encounters people were saying that they were having with Logis. The type of firefights where Shield and Armor regeneration are not going to really come into play because one of the party is going to be dead in a couple seconds.

For prolonged engagements when players are ducking in and out of cover, flanking, tossing grenades and such then things change drastically. I mean in such cases you have to start factoring in the Assaults ability to switch to a sidearm versus the Logistics player having to reload. Then that second weapons slot becomes VERY important.

Bottom line, the more variables that you factor into the gunfight, the less anyone is able to point to one particular aspect of a dropsuit and say "that makes it OP and one-sided" the whole argument becomes moot. As it is the argument is pretty circular and pointless in my opinion.

People want to blame the suit but it is really all about the player in it. There is always going to be someone on the battlefield more skilled or better fitted. Chances are you got beat because they are either better or they got the drop on you.

Bingo! Wait until 1.4 and see how all powerful these "evil logis" are when their god gun finally gets nerfed. Calling it now.

Since 1.4, which I refer to as the CoD patch, TTK is so ridiculously low that that extra EHP only amounts an extra 0.5 seconds.

So, if you can't beat a suit that has a fraction of a second more survivability than yours with your suit that has two weapons to their one, who's really at fault there? Sometimes you have to wonder if the problem is on your end instead of blaming game mechanics that are different. It makes you no better than that one guy saying shotguns need a nerf because he refused to change his tactics or that guy crying that he can't kill a well fit tank with his anti-armor starter fit. Give it a rest CHECKMATE, you're starting to embarrass yourself.

Checkmate, you're trying to say that a logi can overcome the stamina disadvantage by using a stamina mod. You're ignoring that this means dropping a complex plate, putting the assault suit into a very clear hp advantage. Put that biotic on there and the logi can move around almost as well as the assault, but now it has less hp and still has less firepower. Meaning the assault is the better suit for....assaulting.

People seem to be getting mad about dying to a suit they think should be helpless and then going into some truly absurd mental gymnastics to justify their position, to the degree where they point out that drawbacks can be compensated for and then refusing to acknowledge that doing so requires a trade off.