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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 401
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:12:00 -
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 I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?"
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        |  Provectus Lembos
 Krusual Covert Operators
 Minmatar Republic
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:16:00 -
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 Because a Plasma Rifle would make people remember the awesome memories of Fallout 3, causing people to abandon DUST 514 for a 5 year old RPG
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        |  Mobius Wyvern
 Guardian Solutions
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 3574
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:18:00 -
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 Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle.
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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 401
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:22:00 -
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 Mobius Wyvern wrote:Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. 
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        |  Rudy Vandersario
 The Nimbor Corporation
 
 43
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:30:00 -
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 Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.  
 Nomenclature you say? Dats some fancy **** right there.
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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 403
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:31:00 -
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 Rudy Vandersario wrote:Somebody's gotta keep it high brow.... :PVespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.  Nonclementure you say? Dats some fancy **** right there.  
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        |  Rudy Vandersario
 The Nimbor Corporation
 
 43
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:33:00 -
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 Vespasian Andendare wrote:Rudy Vandersario wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.  Nonclementure you say? Dats some fancy **** right there.  Somebody's gotta keep it high brow.... :P 
 Well I'm glad you did because I spelled it wrong. Or incorrectly as you might say ha ha
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        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 1460
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:44:00 -
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 I vote Blaster Rifle. If we were to be pedantic and call it the plasma rifle (as much as I like how that sounds after playing Xcom & Fallout) it would follow that we call the Scrambler the "pulse laser rifle".
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        |  Marc Rime
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 177
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:49:00 -
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 ...or Plasma Carbine.
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        |  Reav Hannari
 Red Rock Outriders
 
 1234
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:54:00 -
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 Blaster Rifle
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        |  Rudy Vandersario
 The Nimbor Corporation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:56:00 -
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 The Lincoln Repeater would be nice. That gun was the dog's testes.
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        |  Rogatien Merc
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 1127
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 21:58:00 -
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 "blaster rifle" sounds redundantly repetitive.
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        |  Severus Smith
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
 328
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 22:00:00 -
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 Quick! Blast them!
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        |  Cody Sietz
 Bullet Cluster
 
 962
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 22:02:00 -
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 I can't be the only one who thinks of Mad Max when Blaster Rifles are brought up(Woooo!)
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1477
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 22:18:00 -
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 Most newbs gravitate towards the AR and stay with it because it has a name they are familiar with and functionality they are familiar with.
 
 Change the name and you might actually see new players use their brains for half a second and explore the other options available to them.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1673
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 22:36:00 -
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 Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most newbs gravitate towards the AR and stay with it because it has a name they are familiar with and functionality they are familiar with.
 Change the name and you might actually see new players use their brains for half a second and explore the other options available to them.
 
 Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits.
 
 
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        |  Fizzer94
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 169
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 22:36:00 -
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 How about the Ion Carbine? Sound awesome if you ask me.
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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 405
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 22:46:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles.Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. 
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        |  RejectedUsername
 The Southern Legion
 The Umbra Combine
 
 33
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 23:02:00 -
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 Chunky Munkey wrote:I vote Blaster Rifle. If we were to be pedantic and call it the plasma rifle (as much as I like how that sounds after playing Xcom & Fallout) it would follow that we call the Scrambler the "pulse laser rifle". You obviously do not know what pedantic means, stop trying to use big words to make yourself sound better f@ggit.
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        |  CLONE117
 Planetary Response Organization
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 336
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.11 23:16:00 -
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 well it might just kill the nerf ar threads as there wont be an assault rifle to complain about then..
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 972
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 00:21:00 -
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 Rudy Vandersario wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.  Nomenclature you say? Dats some fancy **** right there. 
 Nomenclature is the perfect word. I actually have a book called The Nomenclature of Firearms it is older but still good. Big words are fun.
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 972
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 00:23:00 -
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 Just call it a Small Blaster or Light Blaster...
 
 If we call it Small or Light there has to be a Medium and Heavy. It is all in how you say it.
 
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        |  Obodiah Garro
 Tech Guard
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 363
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 00:24:00 -
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 CLONE117 wrote:well it might just kill the nerf ar threads as there wont be an assault rifle to complain about then.. 
 Good enough reason to rebrand as any other lol. Maybe if Starter fits used racial weapons instead of default AR then people wouldnt be bitching in the first place.
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        |  Godin Thekiller
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 634
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 00:28:00 -
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 Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. 
 Do I have to go over this with you again?
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        |  Zeylon Rho
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 2329
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 00:48:00 -
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 Plasma Blaster
 
 Ion Blaster
 
 Neutron Blaster
 
 Blaster Carbine
 
 Ion Carbine
 
 Neutron Carbine
 
 Plasma Carbine
 
 Blaster Rifle
 
 Plasma Rifle
 
 Ion Rifle
 
 Neutron Rifle
 
 Ion repeater
 
 Neutron repeater
 
 Plasma repeater
 
 Repeating blaster
 
 ...or you know, anything other than Assault Rifle.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1676
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 01:20:00 -
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 Vespasian Andendare wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles. 
 That's my exact point. The racial milita suit would need to have the corresponding racial weapons.
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        |  Zeylon Rho
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 2331
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 04:03:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles. That's my exact point. The racial milita suit would need to have the corresponding racial weapons. 
 Might need the missing sidearms for that.
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 
 1077
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 04:17:00 -
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 Zeylon Rho wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles. That's my exact point. The racial milita suit would need to have the corresponding racial weapons. Might need the missing sidearms for that. Only need the Ion Pistol, but still the Bolt Pistol would be nice so I don't have to use Knives
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1483
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 05:46:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most newbs gravitate towards the AR and stay with it because it has a name they are familiar with and functionality they are familiar with.
 Change the name and you might actually see new players use their brains for half a second and explore the other options available to them.
 Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. 
 I assume thats what is going to happen when there are enough variants.
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        |  Aero Yassavi
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 1696
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 05:51:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Just call it a Small Blaster or Light Blaster...
 If we call it Small or Light there has to be a Medium and Heavy. It is all in how you say it.
 
 There already is a Light Blaster and there is a Large Blaster. They are both turrets.
 
 Anyways, to keep on convention with Dust naming schemes, I vote Blaster Rifle since the turrets using the same tech are called blaster turrets.
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        |  KGB Sleep
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
 219
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 05:52:00 -
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 Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 
 1083
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 05:55:00 -
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 KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
 
 We won't
 
 Something diiferent
 
 Tutorials *cough*
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        |  Aero Yassavi
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 1696
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 05:55:00 -
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 KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
 Actually by naming it the "Assault Rifle" it is unfriendly to new players, because they think they are skilling into a weapon class that spans many weapon types but in actuality they are just getting the Gallente rifle and its variants. They have no clue that there are other racial rifles out there.
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        |  Flux Raeder
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 246
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 05:58:00 -
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 Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.  Wea duh, plasma-anything just sounds so much more badass. Edgy as always CCP
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        |  Flux Raeder
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 246
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 06:01:00 -
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 KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
 Idk, sniper rifle sounds much sleeker than "infantry mounted micro railgun"
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        |  Fizzer94
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 172
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 06:19:00 -
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 Flux Raeder wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
 Idk, sniper rifle sounds much sleeker than "infantry mounted micro railgun" 
 How about Gauss Rifle instead of Sniper Rifle?
 
 Edit: Precision Rail is good too.
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        |  Zeylon Rho
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 2334
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 06:37:00 -
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 KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
 
 The combat rifle and smg are some of the only ones that might make sense with names as-is. Afterall, HMGs, SMG, and Combat Rifles are existing real-world weapons. It's the ones that aren't kin to current real-world tech that need to be differentiated more. Heavy Machine Gun is accurate enough. Assault Rifle says nothing.
 
 Sniper Rifle as Sniper Railgun or Precision Railgun might make more sense, after all they are introducing a "Precision Rifle" as well.
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        |  Kage Roth
 Wolf-Monkey Bastards
 
 78
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 07:04:00 -
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 To be honest it is arguable if it would actually be a rifle at all. I doubt the thing has any rifling so it would be more accurate to call it an Assault Blaster.
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        |  Obodiah Garro
 Tech Guard
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 364
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 11:44:00 -
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 While its in 1.4 they should rename the AR the Ray Gun, since its melting through anything and everything atm
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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 410
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 14:25:00 -
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 Fizzer94 wrote:Gauss Rifle sounds awesome, but I think it'd be somewhat confusing to have it sound like it could be just another rifle (AR, SCR, Rail, Combat). Gauss Sniper Rifle perhaps?Flux Raeder wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
 Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
 
 Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
 Idk, sniper rifle sounds much sleeker than "infantry mounted micro railgun" How about Gauss Rifle instead of Sniper Rifle? Edit: Precision Rail is good too. 
 And, really, we'd only need the Ion pistol released to round out the sidearms so all races could get their racial weapon packages in their militia fits. Caldari wouldn't have to use Nova knives, though, since the Magsec SMG is coming, and that's probably more preferable to most players.
 
 Overall, though, it's time for the races to play like the races, and give them meaningful differences.
 
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        |  bjorn morkai
 Sanmatar Kelkoons
 Minmatar Republic
 
 11
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.12 14:55:00 -
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 Because plasma is for hipsters. All the cool kids today are using either fusion, laser, or mass reactors, that's why.
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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 418
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.13 16:40:00 -
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 bjorn morkai wrote:Aren't all Dust players hipsters? I mean, we got on this trend to play Dust when it decidedly wasn't cool.Because plasma is for hipsters. All the cool kids today are using either fusion, laser, or mass reactors, that's why.  
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        |  Operative 1171 Aajli
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 306
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.14 04:22:00 -
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 Same reason we don't call it the Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation rifle.
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