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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:12:00 -
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I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" |
Provectus Lembos
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:16:00 -
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Because a Plasma Rifle would make people remember the awesome memories of Fallout 3, causing people to abandon DUST 514 for a 5 year old RPG |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3574
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:18:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
401
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:22:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.
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Rudy Vandersario
The Nimbor Corporation
43
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:30:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature.
Nomenclature you say? Dats some fancy **** right there. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
403
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:31:00 -
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Rudy Vandersario wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature. Nonclementure you say? Dats some fancy **** right there. Somebody's gotta keep it high brow.... :P
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Rudy Vandersario
The Nimbor Corporation
43
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:33:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Rudy Vandersario wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature. Nonclementure you say? Dats some fancy **** right there. Somebody's gotta keep it high brow.... :P
Well I'm glad you did because I spelled it wrong. Or incorrectly as you might say ha ha |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1460
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:44:00 -
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I vote Blaster Rifle. If we were to be pedantic and call it the plasma rifle (as much as I like how that sounds after playing Xcom & Fallout) it would follow that we call the Scrambler the "pulse laser rifle". |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
177
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:49:00 -
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...or Plasma Carbine. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1234
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:54:00 -
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Blaster Rifle |
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Rudy Vandersario
The Nimbor Corporation
43
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:56:00 -
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The Lincoln Repeater would be nice. That gun was the dog's testes. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1127
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:58:00 -
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"blaster rifle" sounds redundantly repetitive. |
Severus Smith
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
328
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Posted - 2013.09.11 22:00:00 -
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Quick! Blast them! |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
962
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Posted - 2013.09.11 22:02:00 -
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I can't be the only one who thinks of Mad Max when Blaster Rifles are brought up(Woooo!) |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1477
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Posted - 2013.09.11 22:18:00 -
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Most newbs gravitate towards the AR and stay with it because it has a name they are familiar with and functionality they are familiar with.
Change the name and you might actually see new players use their brains for half a second and explore the other options available to them. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1673
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Posted - 2013.09.11 22:36:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most newbs gravitate towards the AR and stay with it because it has a name they are familiar with and functionality they are familiar with.
Change the name and you might actually see new players use their brains for half a second and explore the other options available to them.
Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
169
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Posted - 2013.09.11 22:36:00 -
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How about the Ion Carbine? Sound awesome if you ask me. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
405
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Posted - 2013.09.11 22:46:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles.
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RejectedUsername
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
33
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Posted - 2013.09.11 23:02:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I vote Blaster Rifle. If we were to be pedantic and call it the plasma rifle (as much as I like how that sounds after playing Xcom & Fallout) it would follow that we call the Scrambler the "pulse laser rifle". You obviously do not know what pedantic means, stop trying to use big words to make yourself sound better f@ggit. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
336
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Posted - 2013.09.11 23:16:00 -
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well it might just kill the nerf ar threads as there wont be an assault rifle to complain about then.. |
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
972
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Posted - 2013.09.12 00:21:00 -
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Rudy Vandersario wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature. Nomenclature you say? Dats some fancy **** right there.
Nomenclature is the perfect word. I actually have a book called The Nomenclature of Firearms it is older but still good. Big words are fun. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
972
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Posted - 2013.09.12 00:23:00 -
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Just call it a Small Blaster or Light Blaster...
If we call it Small or Light there has to be a Medium and Heavy. It is all in how you say it.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
363
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Posted - 2013.09.12 00:24:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:well it might just kill the nerf ar threads as there wont be an assault rifle to complain about then..
Good enough reason to rebrand as any other lol. Maybe if Starter fits used racial weapons instead of default AR then people wouldnt be bitching in the first place. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
634
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Posted - 2013.09.12 00:28:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle.
Do I have to go over this with you again? |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2329
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Posted - 2013.09.12 00:48:00 -
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Plasma Blaster
Ion Blaster
Neutron Blaster
Blaster Carbine
Ion Carbine
Neutron Carbine
Plasma Carbine
Blaster Rifle
Plasma Rifle
Ion Rifle
Neutron Rifle
Ion repeater
Neutron repeater
Plasma repeater
Repeating blaster
...or you know, anything other than Assault Rifle. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1676
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Posted - 2013.09.12 01:20:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles.
That's my exact point. The racial milita suit would need to have the corresponding racial weapons. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2331
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:03:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles. That's my exact point. The racial milita suit would need to have the corresponding racial weapons.
Might need the missing sidearms for that. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
1077
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:17:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits. Yeah, but I can just as well imagine that CCP is going to change the starter fits to reflect their racial rifle choice once the Rail and Combat Rifles are introduced. At some point, the races will have to play their style and reflect their flavors. So, at that point, Plasma Rifle it'd be, especially considering there'd be a choice in the matter of what weapon you'd like to "specialize" in. It hardly makes sense to have an Amarr-specialized in Scrambler rifles and still have his militia suits contain Assault (Plasma) Rifles. That's my exact point. The racial milita suit would need to have the corresponding racial weapons. Might need the missing sidearms for that. Only need the Ion Pistol, but still the Bolt Pistol would be nice so I don't have to use Knives |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1483
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:46:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most newbs gravitate towards the AR and stay with it because it has a name they are familiar with and functionality they are familiar with.
Change the name and you might actually see new players use their brains for half a second and explore the other options available to them. Since it is the weapon given on the starter fits, the name won't matter for this. CCP should instead give you a weapon and militia racial suit based on your race. Or maybe even give new players a one time choice of a set of starter fits.
I assume thats what is going to happen when there are enough variants. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1696
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:51:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Just call it a Small Blaster or Light Blaster...
If we call it Small or Light there has to be a Medium and Heavy. It is all in how you say it.
There already is a Light Blaster and there is a Large Blaster. They are both turrets.
Anyways, to keep on convention with Dust naming schemes, I vote Blaster Rifle since the turrets using the same tech are called blaster turrets. |
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:52:00 -
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Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
1083
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:55:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
We won't
Something diiferent
Tutorials *cough* |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1696
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:55:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible. Actually by naming it the "Assault Rifle" it is unfriendly to new players, because they think they are skilling into a weapon class that spans many weapon types but in actuality they are just getting the Gallente rifle and its variants. They have no clue that there are other racial rifles out there. |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
246
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:58:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I know that once upon a time, there was only the "Assault Rifle" to fill up the rifle category. Now, with the introduction of the Scrambler Rifle (and soon the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle), are we still going to call it an "Assault Rifle," or should we switch over to a more accurate description of "Plasma Rifle?" Blaster Rifle. Well, that is technically correct, but the trend in Dust is to refer to blaster damage as "plasma," so Plasma Rifle would technically be more correct in keeping with the Dust nomenclature. Wea duh, plasma-anything just sounds so much more badass. Edgy as always CCP |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
246
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:01:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible. Idk, sniper rifle sounds much sleeker than "infantry mounted micro railgun" |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
172
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:19:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible. Idk, sniper rifle sounds much sleeker than "infantry mounted micro railgun"
How about Gauss Rifle instead of Sniper Rifle?
Edit: Precision Rail is good too. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2334
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:37:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible.
The combat rifle and smg are some of the only ones that might make sense with names as-is. Afterall, HMGs, SMG, and Combat Rifles are existing real-world weapons. It's the ones that aren't kin to current real-world tech that need to be differentiated more. Heavy Machine Gun is accurate enough. Assault Rifle says nothing.
Sniper Rifle as Sniper Railgun or Precision Railgun might make more sense, after all they are introducing a "Precision Rifle" as well. |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
78
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:04:00 -
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To be honest it is arguable if it would actually be a rifle at all. I doubt the thing has any rifling so it would be more accurate to call it an Assault Blaster. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
364
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Posted - 2013.09.12 11:44:00 -
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While its in 1.4 they should rename the AR the Ray Gun, since its melting through anything and everything atm with awesome tracking. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
410
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:25:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Don't forget to rename all of the sniper rifles too.
Oh and change SMG to "projectile gun"
Think hard, we want this game to be as unfriendly to new players as possible. Idk, sniper rifle sounds much sleeker than "infantry mounted micro railgun" How about Gauss Rifle instead of Sniper Rifle? Edit: Precision Rail is good too. Gauss Rifle sounds awesome, but I think it'd be somewhat confusing to have it sound like it could be just another rifle (AR, SCR, Rail, Combat). Gauss Sniper Rifle perhaps?
And, really, we'd only need the Ion pistol released to round out the sidearms so all races could get their racial weapon packages in their militia fits. Caldari wouldn't have to use Nova knives, though, since the Magsec SMG is coming, and that's probably more preferable to most players.
Overall, though, it's time for the races to play like the races, and give them meaningful differences.
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bjorn morkai
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:55:00 -
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Because plasma is for hipsters. All the cool kids today are using either fusion, laser, or mass reactors, that's why. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
418
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Posted - 2013.09.13 16:40:00 -
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bjorn morkai wrote:Because plasma is for hipsters. All the cool kids today are using either fusion, laser, or mass reactors, that's why. Aren't all Dust players hipsters? I mean, we got on this trend to play Dust when it decidedly wasn't cool.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
306
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Posted - 2013.09.14 04:22:00 -
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Same reason we don't call it the Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation rifle. |
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