Swarmers are everywhere, and for some crazy reason, they are hurting. One set nearly knocks out half my shields. It's crazy, really, how before I feared the forge gun. Now I fear the swarms. Hardly enjoyable, plus all I see are the new sockets.

What is up with the tank hating CCP. Just curious as to how badly you will break us in your "fix". Doing a poor job fixing anything for vehicles.

I know, cry cry cry, gotta vent somewhere.

PS. Only lost 3 tanks tonight, but was rendered useless in all but one of my matches. *long sigh*

bob pls

All I have seen are proto swarmers with damage mods. I used to shrug that stuff off, but now when I squad up, me and my armor buddy get owned. Which btw he can handle far better.

Got a good fit.

5400 Hp

Converse shield booster

34% on Resistance

You guys must not be facing the kind of swarms I do! New sockets being tank unfriendly don't help!

Tanks are not supposed to be useful in every map, same goes for snipers and scouts.

3 tanks is nothing, so yeah.Stop QQ over nothing.

your resist seem to be lacking. you should have over 40% resist for tht fit. your health seems fine for tht setup you got going there.

Ahh yeah, I run a speed booster instead of a 3rd ward. Speed booster got a huge buff with 1.4 btw.

Even with that 40% though, I don't see it making a huge difference when faced with proto swarms w/damage mods.

And don't be dissin my speed boost, that thing has saved my ass far more than the extra 7% I get from a 3rd ward/ hardener.

You guys must not have seen the swarms I have!

nah dude i love the booster i use it myself. i could recommend better fit for using a speed booster on thou. such as

assuming this is a blaster tank

1 light azo
1 heavy con
1 fusion
2 wards

2 damage mods

1 large scat nuetron blaster

2 small missie

this is a hit and run tank. :D

Interesting fit, though the mitigation seems low. I can hit and run with my setup and still maintain decent mitigation.

Heavy azo
heavy convo
Fusion
2 wards

Pg boosters x2

2 small missile

Large Scat blaster( advanced or standard)

I could never ever break down and use a light extender.

Drop the damage mods, you won't be killing any maddies, and infantry pop in a few well aimed shots with the advanced scattered.

I swear man, you havent been hit by the swarms I have. These things are insane. I'm not saying every swarm out there is a problem, just the protos with heavy damage mods.

Like I said, it's not every match this happens (tonight was for me though) but some of them swarmers out there got a hellva swarm setup going.

Daddy Pew "Lissun hurr boyz, weez a gowen huntin! See that thurr Gunnlogi?" Ya mean that one over thurr pa? "Yessum Pew Jr."

We gonna wait furr that critter to run outta them thurr reps.
Git yurr swarms a ready!

1 shot 2 shot 3 shot, reload.... 4 shot 5 shot 6 shot. Tanker (hmmm proto swarms, rep time )
7 shot 8 shot 9 shot..... Tanker (OHHHMAGHERRDDD!!!! Muh tankz gunna splode)
Pew jr. "Pa I got im in ma sights & he's barely crawlin now."
Daddy Pew "Go on an put im outta his missouri."

Tanker (sweet mother of rep tools! pls Kitten save muh tankz)

Shot 10. Tanker (OMFG! Rage... Rant... unneccesary couch slapping. Dust hates me. Swarms are soo OP. My butt itches. WAHHHHHHHH!)


My kids know tanks have a weak spot. Did you forget swarms up the bum hurt your tank?

Hah ok buddy. A lot of tankers I know are upset with the swarms. Notice I'm not so upset about the new Sockets (which are every map I've played since patch day. wtf is up with that) but Swarms.

Lol, you seem to misunderstand, the extra mitigation isn't there to keep me in the fight. I use it to get me out of the fight.

If I didn't have that extra hp, with the heavy heal, I would have been toast against some of these swarmers. And it wasn't just one swarmer I was facing, but several.

Still I can only handle about 3 volleys, then my shields are nearly toast.

4 swarms got into my armor.

I'm curious as to how you fit your High mitigation shield tank? I'm not trying to be a douche here fella, but my squad mates are all very high SP chars, so often times I think we are against some of the best. Solo I never lose a tank (7mil into nothing but shield tanks) though I never face these swarms until I squad up!

I'm just curious as to how your shield tank holds up to the proto swarms damage modded out?? The setup you gave me would have dropped in 2 volleys. I'm all for trying different fits, and you got me very curious(as in I'm going to make that fit you gave me) but I just don't see it.

My fits are solid. Pre 1.4 I ate proto wycomi, whatever, swarms like candy. Now I face some that are just far too powerful to withstand. 3 tanks is nothing to lose, 2 were missiles fits with the best mitigation possible, and one a proto blaster with weaker mitigation(slightly) but a much higher dmg output. Rarely lose a blaster simply because I can actually take out my aggressors in a timely manner. Plus I use my speed to a huge advantage for getting to cover. I'll admit though, the new sockets have me crashing into stuff now, very unfamiliar territory.

Not trying to one up you here, I'm just curious. I know my setup is boss, more so with the buff to my nitro. These swarmers are unreal sometimes though. I run with 2 other tankers (both armor tanks) and they too notice a huge difference. Shield tanks are already somewhat gimped, I think, and have been when stacked with armor.

Less speed, overall HP, and resist.

I have to see your fits man!

Tankers are always upset if something kills them.
Tankers want to go around in invencible tankswith nothing to counter them.
Let me tell you something: this is the first game a tank can take 4-8 AV MISSILES straight to the face and live, and you still want more.In games like BF3 or MAG, 1-2 AV misseles is all that it took to drop a tank,and guess what, they still went 30+kills a game, the good tankers that is.

Its not surprising.
And they are always whining about what kills them.Las build was the Forge guns. Hit detection got fixed so now the next thing on line is Swarms. If swarms get nerfed,you will start whining about AV's..Its always like that.

Swarms had a speed buff , yeah, but the fact they removed 1 shot per clip means that after a 3 swarm volley,we have to reload, and guess what, by the time we have reloaded you are alreaddy behind cover.If you know what you are doing that is....

Tanks are not supposed to be useful in every map, same goes for snipers and scouts.

3 tanks is nothing, so yeah.Stop QQ over nothing.

well it can't take much but the damage is outstanding. the idea is as soon as u get hit u run and try to lure the swarmer out. while he trs to get his lock you shoot his head off. if you see anymore than 2 av you run for your life and get squad members to kill them. This fit also devastates infantry.

My old rail fit was.

gunnlogi

1 sup heavy extend
1 light extend ( i forget which one or light rep whichever you prefer)
2 ward amps
1 surge for a good bonus when you stick your head out to shoot enemy tank / or you go head on.

2 damage mods

proto compressed rail.

this does about 2.8-3 k damage a shot. makes it where armor reps won't turn on in time. as it takes 5 secs to activate

Falchion

1 heavy sup
2 wards
1 surge
1 heat sink

3 damage mods

proto compressed rail

does 3k a shot. easily scares tanks

this is from memory. havn't used shield tanks in months. :D

So what should we do, back out of the match?

can't wait for 1.5 and the end to armor being the only way to use HAVs due to magic reps.

can't wait for 1.5 and the end to armor being the only way to use HAVs due to magic reps.

i remember when it was shield tanks were the only way. it was a nice change for a while. :D

So what should we do, back out of the match?

Same as infantry has to adapt to each situation, so does a tanker.
If the map does not benefit you:
a) Recall your tank, be useful for your team in any other way you can.
b)Use your tank with hit and run tactics

DO NOT do what scrubs do a lot. The peek into a city, get 3-5 kills, instead of leaving and approaching from another entrance,they just get confident and keep pushing through the same opening, were AVs will throw 3-6 packed ndes at him,and then, the swarm fest. No you wont and SHOULDNT be able to escape that....

@ Op.I see you point, But you say yyou just loose 10 tanks a month. Doesnt seem too UP to be quite honest.
I loose 10 suits every 2-4 matches and they all cost 100k +, so i think i loose more money that you do...

Tankers are always upset if something kills them.
Tankers want to go around in invencible tankswith nothing to counter them.
Let me tell you something: this is the first game a tank can take 4-8 AV MISSILES straight to the face and live, and you still want more.In games like BF3 or MAG, 1-2 AV misseles is all that it took to drop a tank,and guess what, they still went 30+kills a game, the good tankers that is.

Its not surprising.
And they are always whining about what kills them.Las build was the Forge guns. Hit detection got fixed so now the next thing on line is Swarms. If swarms get nerfed,you will start whining about AV's..Its always like that.

Swarms had a speed buff , yeah, but the fact they removed 1 shot per clip means that after a 3 swarm volley,we have to reload, and guess what, by the time we have reloaded you are alreaddy behind cover.If you know what you are doing that is....