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Rei Shepard wrote:

Banning Hammer wrote:

Rei Shepard wrote:

Banning Hammer wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players

Well it doesn't seems to be available to make it's mind about me, my experiences with Scotty ;

- Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 17-0 / 15-1/ 20- 3

- Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 4-4 / 12-10 / 9-8

- Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 2-8 / 1-10 / 4-12

Mine ussualy go like this:

- Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 30-0 / 43-3 / 32-2

- Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 25-3 / 32-5 / 27-2

- Battle against well known Pubstomping Corps and Players; 17-6 / 18-7 / 20-5

These numbers are grabbed from memory from battles over the last weekend till yesterday, i came across Bazuleo allot so he will remember :), so i wonder if the system is gonna put me slot higher soon or as a solo player, did i max it out already ?

I use ADV gear by the way, never Proto. But my point is; That is very random, from having to try hard to don't kill to many people, to sniping from the red-line to cut my loses, in a couple of matches. Ugh

I run proto 24/7, price of my current fit is 129k down from 200k+ and i only go for straight up frontal medium to cqc gungame
fights, so for me there is nothing random to my fights, i either plow trough like a wreckingball or they stop me dead in my tracks, not much random elements in my gameplay, ive never used a vehicle and ive never seen my own redline up close after leaving it, cant get more simpler then that.

Before they fixed the Matchmaker i would consistently be put againt 2 stacked teams with a bunch of wimps on my side.

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Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1617	Posted - 2013.09.10 22:48:00 - [1] - Quote match making seems to be working
Lorhak Gannarsein Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 316	Posted - 2013.09.10 22:49:00 - [2] - Quote Excellent data spread, OP.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8274	Posted - 2013.09.10 22:51:00 - [3] - Quote It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1654	Posted - 2013.09.10 22:53:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players This. It doesn't know enough about you yet to gauge where you fit.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1617	Posted - 2013.09.10 22:55:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players It could be, but lets be honest. It's probably not :P
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 108	Posted - 2013.09.10 22:55:00 - [6] - Quote I hope you guys are right about this.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1618	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:00:00 - [7] - Quote Really who knows. I did 'okay' in the 2 matches that lead up to that one. But I hope actual new players arn't treated quite the same way.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 904	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:01:00 - [8] - Quote was I in a squad or soloing
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8277	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:01:00 - [9] - Quote Well for the last week I had several matches of ambush end with 0 clones on both sides... So something's working.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 369	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:04:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well for the last week I had several matches of ambush end with 0 clones on both sides... So something's working. Just today had a skirmish than we won by 1 clone, we exactly even on mcc health, was aswome!!

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 937	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:10:00 - [11] - Quote I'd feel honored.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1639	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:13:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well for the last week I had several matches of ambush end with 0 clones on both sides... So something's working. I've had some very good matches since the matchmaking was implemented. Sometimes I get stomped (Mostly because I almost always run solo) but it usually isn't too bad of a battle.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 676	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:18:00 - [13] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well for the last week I had several matches of ambush end with 0 clones on both sides... So something's working. Just today had a skirmish than we won by 1 clone, we exactly even on mcc health, was aswome!! The matches are far more interesting now. More than once I was placed in a Faction Warfare match which was extremely close. The enemies were ahead regarding the MCC, but we won because of the clone count.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 963	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:19:00 - [14] - Quote Had a lot of matches that towards the middle you go "whoa this is kind of close" then it becomes "whoa we're both about to clone each other."
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 165	Posted - 2013.09.10 23:50:00 - [15] - Quote I play some good matches against him, he's a good capitalist, very market driven! He is killing me many times in a row, yeah? How you say, shooting holes in my forehead and f**cking the wet part? Good game!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6167	Posted - 2013.09.11 00:05:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players I miss SC2 so much but between my anxiety and my hands shutting down, it's no longer too enjoyable. Amazing game though, although HoTS looked kind of stupid to me.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 169	Posted - 2013.09.11 00:28:00 - [17] - Quote I have been seeing more matches end with close clone or ticket counts
Garth Mandra The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 98	Posted - 2013.09.11 01:38:00 - [18] - Quote I had a similar experience when I was trying out the controller on an alt (so I didn't embarrass myself on my M/Kb main). I wonder if perhaps the matchmaker is account based rather than character based. Or I just got unlucky with my sample size of 1 match.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 132	Posted - 2013.09.11 07:41:00 - [19] - Quote I honestly believe matchmaking does not care about your SP level - it's all about getting 32 people in at the start of a game. End of
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1258	Posted - 2013.09.11 08:06:00 - [20] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: match making seems to be working I have found that regardless if you are using an alt, or a different PSN account on the same PS3, the matches you get setup in are the same. My 15 million main get's put in the same exact matches as my 7 million alt (and 4.6 million of that SP was from passive for several months of not playing). MM is either based on your IP address/PS3 data/MAC address + skill, or it is flawed. My guess is the latter. Also I haven't tried it, but pretty sure if you get a genuinely new player, make them squad lead and have them join a match, you could easily get 5 full proto vet players against a ton of extreme noobs. Whatever MM does, it judges based off the one who joins the match, not the collective "skill" of all the players in the squad.

Rei Shepard Spectre II 541	Posted - 2013.09.11 08:19:00 - [21] - Quote I keep getting setup with Random guys that flail about and can't hold a point if i leave them to it vs 1 full teams of the same Corperation and a bunch of randoms. Seems like its working if the game values me like a full team :p.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1359	Posted - 2013.09.11 08:35:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players Well it doesn't seems to be available to make it's mind about me, my experiences with Scotty ; - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 17-0 / 15-1/ 20- 3 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 4-4 / 12-10 / 9-8 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 2-8 / 1-10 / 4-12
Rei Shepard Spectre II 541	Posted - 2013.09.11 08:43:00 - [23] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players Well it doesn't seems to be available to make it's mind about me, my experiences with Scotty ; - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 17-0 / 15-1/ 20- 3 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 4-4 / 12-10 / 9-8 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 2-8 / 1-10 / 4-12 Mine ussualy go like this: - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 30-0 / 43-3 / 32-2 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 25-3 / 32-5 / 27-2 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 17-6 / 18-7 / 20-5 These numbers are grabbed from memory from battles over the last weekend till yesterday, i came across Bazuleo allot so he will remember :), so i wonder if the system is gonna put me slot higher soon or as a solo player, did i max it out already ?
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1359	Posted - 2013.09.11 08:59:00 - [24] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players Well it doesn't seems to be available to make it's mind about me, my experiences with Scotty ; - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 17-0 / 15-1/ 20- 3 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 4-4 / 12-10 / 9-8 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 2-8 / 1-10 / 4-12 Mine ussualy go like this: - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 30-0 / 43-3 / 32-2 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 25-3 / 32-5 / 27-2 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 17-6 / 18-7 / 20-5 These numbers are grabbed from memory from battles over the last weekend till yesterday, i came across Bazuleo allot so he will remember :), so i wonder if the system is gonna put me slot higher soon or as a solo player, did i max it out already ? I use ADV gear by the way, never Proto. But my point is; That is very random, from having to try hard to don't kill to many people, to sniping from the red-line to cut my loses, in a couple of matches.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 460	Posted - 2013.09.11 09:13:00 - [25] - Quote Were they like "Welcome to the big-league-big-boys with SP, noob!"
Rei Shepard Spectre II 541	Posted - 2013.09.11 09:23:00 - [26] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players Well it doesn't seems to be available to make it's mind about me, my experiences with Scotty ; - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 17-0 / 15-1/ 20- 3 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 4-4 / 12-10 / 9-8 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 2-8 / 1-10 / 4-12 Mine ussualy go like this: - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 30-0 / 43-3 / 32-2 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 25-3 / 32-5 / 27-2 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 17-6 / 18-7 / 20-5 These numbers are grabbed from memory from battles over the last weekend till yesterday, i came across Bazuleo allot so he will remember :), so i wonder if the system is gonna put me slot higher soon or as a solo player, did i max it out already ? I use ADV gear by the way, never Proto. But my point is; That is very random, from having to try hard to don't kill to many people, to sniping from the red-line to cut my loses, in a couple of matches. I run proto 24/7, price of my current fit is 129k down from 200k+ and i only go for straight up frontal medium to cqc gungame fights, so for me there is nothing random to my fights, i either plow trough like a wreckingball or they stop me dead in my tracks, not much random elements in my gameplay, ive never used a vehicle and ive never seen my own redline up close after leaving it, cant get more simpler then that. Before they fixed the Matchmaker i would consistently be put againt 2 stacked teams with a bunch of wimps on my side.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1359	Posted - 2013.09.11 09:28:00 - [27] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It could be like starcraft's ranking system where it is trying to gauge your actual competence level with a series of matches before you get good footing placement. Every season of SCII seems to pit me against Diamond/Plat League players Well it doesn't seems to be available to make it's mind about me, my experiences with Scotty ; - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 17-0 / 15-1/ 20- 3 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 4-4 / 12-10 / 9-8 - Battle against well knows Pubstomping Corps and Players; 2-8 / 1-10 / 4-12 Mine ussualy go like this: - Battle against a random group of unknown players; Score 30-0 / 43-3 / 32-2 - Balance Battle Against people with similar equipment that i have; 25-3 / 32-5 / 27-2 - Battle against well known Pubstomping Corps and Players; 17-6 / 18-7 / 20-5 These numbers are grabbed from memory from battles over the last weekend till yesterday, i came across Bazuleo allot so he will remember :), so i wonder if the system is gonna put me slot higher soon or as a solo player, did i max it out already ? I use ADV gear by the way, never Proto. But my point is; That is very random, from having to try hard to don't kill to many people, to sniping from the red-line to cut my loses, in a couple of matches. I run proto 24/7, price of my current fit is 129k down from 200k+ and i only go for straight up frontal medium to cqc gungame fights, so for me there is nothing random to my fights, i either plow trough like a wreckingball or they stop me dead in my tracks, not much random elements in my gameplay, ive never used a vehicle and ive never seen my own redline up close after leaving it, cant get more simpler then that. Before they fixed the Matchmaker i would consistently be put againt 2 stacked teams with a bunch of wimps on my side. I don't want to said, because i know you guys love your Proto equipment, but this little conversation with just have shows that still is a very big gap in the equipment tiers.
Shaze 'Jazz' Sovatsor Dust2Dust. Top Men. 48	Posted - 2013.09.11 09:33:00 - [28] - Quote Two days ago I was in an ambush battle. It was me and blueberries versus two squads of very good players - well atleast a lot better than I am. Game ended in 4minutes with the opponents losing 4 clones. After the battle I asked myself what went wrong. Even though we weren't using mics to give orders and information to eachother we were rather organized. We were defending from cover and I was healing and reviving my team mates as much as I could, but soon it was clear that there was nothing we could do. It was an onslaught we couldn't hope to stop. And then it was over. I was the last man standing - I took cover behind a crate as large blaster fire from a Madrugar hit everything around me, then I saw four opponents coming behind a corner, I shot first of them with my shotgun, took half of his shields and then I was down in a second. Now don't get me wrong - I really enjoyed that battle. Heck I got over double warpoints compared to my team's second best guy. This was because my team didn't get kills and I had my hands full trying to keep my teammates alive. But it would be nice if these battles would last a bit longer and that requires balanced teams.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 542	Posted - 2013.09.11 09:37:00 - [29] - Quote Quote: I don't want to said, because i know you guys love your Proto equipment, but this little conversation with just have shows that still is a very big gap in the equipment tiers I would actually prefer that advanced is the equipment that is used most and that proto is too expensive to field 24/7 but many don't agree with that viewpoint because it would take away from their artifcial skill at the game.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 990	Posted - 2013.09.11 10:18:00 - [30] - Quote Protos can be killed. Especially even now. Using that proto argument only reveals the weakness in your strategy.

Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. 613	Posted - 2013.09.11 10:20:00 - [31] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: match making seems to be working But honestly, who better to give you a heaping helping of "Welcome to New Eden" than a face full of ReGnYuM right out of the gate?
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 192	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:40:00 - [32] - Quote wrong thread!
8213 Grade No.2 255	Posted - 2013.09.12 19:09:00 - [33] - Quote Consider yourself lucky I suppose... There are ZERO good DUST players, its just a matter of the game mechanics working in your favor, or not.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 412	Posted - 2013.09.12 19:12:00 - [34] - Quote It's likely, as other posters have commented, that the system doesn't know how good you are before a few matches. The problem with this, though, is it seems the game is assuming you're a proto-geared badass and matching you up versus those sorts of teams. The way it should work, however, is that it'd assume you are a new player with barely any skills and need to play against other new players with barely any skill....since, imagine that, you are a new player with barely any skills.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 69	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:37:00 - [35] - Quote Yes, let all off this rage accumulated from flying dropships out!!! Join the infantry side of the dust and conquer molten heath with us.


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