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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:51:00 -
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Skill into an Assault Rifle, and a medium suit.
Not before kissing your heavy arse goodbye.
The suit sucks, the HMG sucks. Assault rifles are the **** now in CQC, so are Scrambler Rifles. Nothing was buffed or nerfed. Only hit detection got better and aiming got better. Having the hitbox of an LAV, and AA enabled, NOBODY is going to miss a heavy lol.
So that's how to adapt guys ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
Have fun on the battlefield. |
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Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
232
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:52:00 -
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Or, take a Dropship to the ceiling and use it as an mCRU.... Or Forge Snipe.... That's the one I choose. |
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:01:00 -
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Or shoot the HMG and play a heavy suit! I find I do well when I do that ^^ |
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Musta Tornius
Cannonfodder PMC
573
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:02:00 -
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HMG still kicks ass, just the problem of closing the distance is more obvious now. |
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Heavy Breaks
Red Star. EoN.
248
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:04:00 -
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Still doing fine.
Dying a few more times I guess but still racking up decent numbers.
I adapted by stacking armour again instead of reps & cardio. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3784
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:04:00 -
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HMGs had their days in the sun. Chromosome was awesome, Uprising 1.0 was crap for a few weeks, then they were alright up until 1.4.
Having allot more fun with ARs and SRs now. If you have fun playing HMGs then by all means. In my experience with both classes, AR >>>>>>>> HMG |
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
294
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:06:00 -
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Hit detection improved and AA got turned on for heavies too. I don't play heavy (except the occasional Dren sentinal fit for fun) but when you turn that corner to get to an objective and a heavy with an HMG is there you are dead period and that is as it should be. Yes they are less versatile than a medium frame suit but heavies still terrify me.
Option 2 for sentinels, get a laser rifle and **** face from mid to long range. I have 0 skills in lasers or heavy suits but even I do pretty well with my Dren and a Burnstalk |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:07:00 -
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Thats how I adapted.
I put down my MH-82 and picked up a Duvolle. |
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:16:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Skill into an Assault Rifle, and a medium suit. Not before kissing your heavy arse goodbye. The suit sucks, the HMG sucks. Assault rifles are the **** now in CQC, so are Scrambler Rifles. Nothing was buffed or nerfed. Only hit detection got better and aiming got better. Having the hitbox of an LAV, and AA enabled, NOBODY is going to miss a heavy lol. So that's how to adapt guys ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Have fun on the battlefield.
ACTUALLY HEAVIES, there still is a solution. I had one friend on mine mod his heavy for ''High'' Mobility (ADV sentinel with Kin cat, cardiac reg or ferroscale or enhanced plate, armpr rep, high p slot Cx Shield extender) and equipped a laser rifle on it with ADV assault SMG.
You'd be surprised.... |
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Heavy Breaks
Red Star. EoN.
248
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:17:00 -
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I must admit I am enjoying my LR heavy suit for messing around with. |
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
2075
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:20:00 -
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Stacking full on armor plates with a core focused rep tool sitting on you and any amount of cover/cqc is pretty awesome though... |
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
135
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:33:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Skill into an Assault Rifle, and a medium suit. Not before kissing your heavy arse goodbye. The suit sucks, the HMG sucks. Assault rifles are the **** now in CQC, so are Scrambler Rifles. Nothing was buffed or nerfed. Only hit detection got better and aiming got better. Having the hitbox of an LAV, and AA enabled, NOBODY is going to miss a heavy lol. So that's how to adapt guys ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Have fun on the battlefield.
To adept as a heavy. Dont run in the open. cover is your friend. If its an open map we are done for. Camp a point inside or get an AR. |
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IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:36:00 -
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Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:41:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game. why don't you just quit now? |
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IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:42:00 -
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ladwar wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game. why don't you just quit now?
I did quit as a heavy now im going to own you as an AR scrub. better hide yo babies. |
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:42:00 -
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We still have Assault Forge Guns...lol.
-XOXO |
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Draka Marintu
TeamPlayers EoN.
129
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:08:00 -
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Hmg heavies are forced to play the game more tactfully now flanking and closing gaps is much more difficult so use your fatsuit where it's supposed to be used get there quickly and quietly and don't stand in a open field like a dumbass |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:31:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Skill into an Assault Rifle, and a medium suit. Not before kissing your heavy arse goodbye. The suit sucks, the HMG sucks. Assault rifles are the **** now in CQC, so are Scrambler Rifles. Nothing was buffed or nerfed. Only hit detection got better and aiming got better. Having the hitbox of an LAV, and AA enabled, NOBODY is going to miss a heavy lol. So that's how to adapt guys ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Have fun on the battlefield.
but i dont wanna :( |
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:35:00 -
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ladwar wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game. why don't you just quit now?
I like how people assume that heavies have ever really been OP (WTE of the first build) If some one has been running a heavy or scout suit from day one don't taunt them into to play an assault, they will kick your ass ten ways from sunday. I mean these guys have been making almost continuously broken suits work, imagine what they could do with the continuously strongest suits. |
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
699
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Posted - 2013.09.11 01:18:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game.
Even I'll admit that the new maps are pretty challenging for Heavy playstyle. The objectives are very HMG campable, but that gets old. The new ambush maps are very open, and lack enough high ground for Forge Gun to excel. I haven't quite figured them out yet. (I still dig them, though.)
That said, Communications, Biomass, and even the Ashland map remain an HMG playground. In cover-dense installations it's the same murder hose it has always been. |
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.11 01:30:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game. Even I'll admit that the new maps are pretty challenging for Heavy playstyle. The objectives are very HMG campable, but that gets old. The new ambush maps are very open, and lack enough high ground for Forge Gun to excel. I haven't quite figured them out yet. (I still dig them, though.) That said, Communications, Biomass, and even the Ashland map remain an HMG playground. In cover-dense installations it's the same murder hose it has always been.
AT playing solo, yeah. But i have also a heavy loadout,not even maxed out and sometimes run with my corp bros that also play heavy.... Call in LAV. 3 Heavies in. Go for X objective, Fast surprise attack with HMGs.... HMG does not do much, 3 HMG is uber obliveration XD
It does not work vs ELITE players,but its fun to use this kind of blitzkrieg fatty attack and suprirse people..... |
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
595
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Posted - 2013.09.11 01:35:00 -
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Just use an AR and you will beat anyone in 1v1 due to your HP and aim assist. |
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TheSprayNPray2
Red Star. EoN.
204
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Posted - 2013.09.11 01:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Skill into an Assault Rifle, and a medium suit. Not before kissing your heavy arse goodbye. The suit sucks, the HMG sucks. Assault rifles are the **** now in CQC, so are Scrambler Rifles. Nothing was buffed or nerfed. Only hit detection got better and aiming got better. Having the hitbox of an LAV, and AA enabled, NOBODY is going to miss a heavy lol. So that's how to adapt guys ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Have fun on the battlefield.
*Whispers into Lance's ear* Stack armor... and Spray but don't forget to Pray ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
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cess-pool
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
2
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:35:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Stacking full on armor plates with a core focused rep tool sitting on you and any amount of cover/cqc is pretty awesome though... Until the both of you get fluxed and two shotted by a mass driver point blank. |
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
384
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:48:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Skill into an Assault Rifle, and a medium suit. Isn't that the standard Plan B for everybody? Scouts, Dropship Pilots, etc. |
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NOAMIzzzzz
BIG BAD W0LVES
40
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:52:00 -
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it's a shame really... |
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Captain Africa Clone1
GRIM MARCH
138
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:48:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Yep the heavy suit HMG combo is now dead. The smart ones have adapted to an AR the dumb ones will tell everyone the HMg is great in close quarters which it is. but these maps are anything but close quarters. Enjoy camping one objective the whole game.
LOL I am provisiont In both PROTO Heavies and Caldari Assault ....and lemme tell you I enjoy Heavies as much as assault...Heavies kick ass in close proximity ..end of the story ! |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1301
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:54:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote: (WTE of the first build) If some one has been running a heavy or scout suit from day one don't taunt them into to playing an assault, they will kick your ass ten ways from sunday. I mean these guys have been making almost continuously broken suits work, imagine what they could do with the continuously strongest suits.
Now imagine a few of us are waiting for this inevitable day when heavies will have a moment of shining glory. Gonna make the days of the caldari logi seem positively upbeat and reasonable given how I grind people up now. |
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:17:00 -
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I can 1v1 heavies with smgs now lol |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3792
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:43:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I can 1v1 heavies with smgs now lol
Yea, it's a sad day lol. Seen so many heavies fall to my Duvolle. Like it's almost depressing to see. Then I smile as I reload. |
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