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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:32:00 -
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I know is off topic, but i love the music, it make me rofl so hard......
Now, "on" topic, saying that CCP have overdone it a bit, is the biggest understatement in history.
Great video. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:51:00 -
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Actually, now i looking at it carefully, without playing the game myself. It does looks a bit like a "Mouse Emulator" for the PS3, i thought this game already supported the mouse CCP.
Why Emulate the mouse, when you can actually use it ? |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:01:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Actually, now i looking at it carefully, without playing the game myself. It does looks a bit like a "Mouse Emulator" for the PS3, i thought this game already supported the mouse CCP. Why Emulate the mouse, when you can actually use it ? because some of us prefer a controller and shouldn't be penalized for it? 
I don't saying that the mouse is an advantage, tracking targets with the mouse as you see it in that video is not easy. That video will be what you will expect to see from a Professional PC gamer, at least with that level of accuracy. What is that... about 2 seconds of solid tracking to the head ? I don't know many people that can do that with the mouse over and over again.
CCP have just given you a Professional PC gamer emulator. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:14:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:DildoMcnutz wrote:Nice video man, laughed pretty hard at that dropship for some reason but on topic, the aim assist is too strong. We never had it before and I don't think we need it now, the 2 arguments I have seen are:
other games have it
need to compete with Kb/m
I don't see why we need it here if other games have it, we have never needed it before and if the other games have it then play them instead. As far as the dualshock vs kb/m goes ill say this, im competent with both and the only real advantage I get with the mouse over the dualshock is how accurate I throw grenades and forge gunning. Forge gunning is super easy with the mouse.
just my 2 isk.... Had it in chromosome. No QQ. Didn't have it in uprising. QQ.
The aim-assist in Chromosome was very different .This one tracks the target, the one in Chromosome "adjusted" your aim, two different things. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:26:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:congrats several people just insulted their own intelligence with their owns posts.
actually the video shows that aim asssist is not able to track you down, strafing at 1/2 is enough to outrun it.
and what the video does not show is that as soon as you touch your stick it stops assisting you.
in short, all the whiny scrubs ranting about aim assist are after all still only whiny scrubs.
For someone that talks about other people intelligence, you not very smart yourself.
Tracking the target is EXACTLY what this aim-assist does. It doesn't help you to aim, it helps you to "maintain" your aim in the target. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:45:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:The sheer level of idiotic posts in this thread is overwhelming. How do you argue with someone who actually WANTS the game to play itself for you simply because you dont have to skill to play it yourself? who would guess, semperfi1999 answers with a idiotic post of no value about idiocy. how often does someone need to bust your "theories" till you wake up from your tunnelvision? I guess there is no cure for you. Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:congrats several people just insulted their own intelligence with their owns posts.
actually the video shows that aim asssist is not able to track you down, strafing at 1/2 is enough to outrun it.
and what the video does not show is that as soon as you touch your stick it stops assisting you.
in short, all the whiny scrubs ranting about aim assist are after all still only whiny scrubs. For someone that talks about other people intelligence, you not very smart yourself. Tracking the target is EXACTLY what this aim-assist does. It doesn't help you to aim, it helps you to "maintain" your aim in the target. arent you done posting nonsense when you are out of arguments? point is, it does not magically aim keeps the aim on the target nonstop. 1/2 strafe speed the TRACKING.
Tracking the target is the hardest thing in a FPS game, a monkey can actually point the crosshair in the general direction of the target. But aiming for the head and tracking the target accurately as is moving, is extremely hard to do. It is what makes the difference from a "good" player to a Pro player. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:54:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:kb/m users have a huge advantage over controller users... AA levels the ground. Gotta ask. Have you tried m/kb since Uprising dropped? Or do you just think that its sooooo amazing?
Hes most likely very bad with the mouse, which is why is defending this aim-assist, so he can feel like a real Pro. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:58:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:kb/m users have a huge advantage over controller users... AA levels the ground. Gotta ask. Have you tried m/kb since Uprising dropped? Or do you just think that its sooooo amazing? I don't use it...I know many who do, and the consensus is, without getting into detail, it works well... I can also make the logical conclusion that if it was terrible, no one would use kb/m.
You want a "logical" conclusion ? If it was very good and give you a huge advantage, everyone will be using one, the same way as everyone is using the aim-assist right now. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:39:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:kb/m users have a huge advantage over controller users... AA levels the ground. Gotta ask. Have you tried m/kb since Uprising dropped? Or do you just think that its sooooo amazing? I don't use it...I know many who do, and the consensus is, without getting into detail, it works well... I can also make the logical conclusion that if it was terrible, no one would use kb/m. You want a "logical" conclusion ? If it was very good and give you a huge advantage, everyone will be using one, the same way as everyone is using the aim-assist right now. There are other factors that come into play with regards to what input system is used. Some peeps use the DS3 out of convenience even if they believe that the kb/m is a better input system. I personally use the DS3(without AA) because i'm bad at it and want to get better. kb/m was always my preferred input style for fps games.
I guess you need to decide, the convenience of the DS3 or the Effectiveness of the mouse. But CCP have given you both choices, you shouldn't try to "Force" people to think the way you do. When both options are available, any of them is a good option. You want to chill out with the DS3 ? just accept that you don't going to be Effective, you want to try hard with the mouse? just accept that is not going to be convenience. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.11 10:54:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:Spec Ops Cipher wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Questions, mostly @Spec Ops and @Big Popa (and others to think about):
1) If not touching controls, the AA tracks target slighty? Correct?
2) If tracking by your control method, the AA is still in effect and adds to your manual aiming? Correct?
3) If you are manually tracking with DS3 controller, the AA still assists and will not shut down? Correct?
4) If you are manually tracking with MKB - what will AA do? Turn itself off or continue tracking?
Remember that both DS3 and MKB are BOTH active in dust and you can use both at the same time (even hybrid control which is a good option)
Sorry for late reply kero - 1) yes 2) yes 3) yes 4) I don't know. Might have to look into it I use mouse/controller combo and have found if aim assist is on it sometimes makes my crosshair go up and to the right randomly and almost violently, another corp member had the same experience and we had to turn AA off. I assume the AA was trying to track but got confused and didn't know what to do though im not really sure. May not happen if your using a keyboard as no input is going through the controller then.
I have that problem too, "sometimes", but it is with the aim-assist off, i haven't have the aim-assist on since a couple of days after the 1.4 deployment. It happens when by mistake i poke my right axis with my leg. If you try to switch from mouse to right axis you will experience a small pause before the axis starts responding. That is because the mouse is totally independent from the right axis now, when before the mouse "was" the right axis. Still.. is not annoying enough to complain about it, since it only happens sometimes. |
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