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Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
4
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Posted - 2013.09.10 01:53:00 -
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Me and my directors have talked it over and the taxes are spamming my corporation. before 1.4 we used the wallet to decide who was withdrawing isk or depositing isk, now we cant even tell that the wallet history is absolutely full of tax updates and this needs to be fixed.
This is really impeding our ability's to keep track of our corporations financial records. ( yes we do keep track ) |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
152
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Posted - 2013.09.10 02:23:00 -
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Set taxes to 0.0%, that way you won't get spammed with tax messages. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
4
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Posted - 2013.09.10 02:53:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Set taxes to 0.0%, that way you won't get spammed with tax messages.
I am obviously not going to do that this is something that needs to be fixed but I can conclude that you don't lead in any corporation and if you do you probably don't have to worry about finances |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
480
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:09:00 -
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Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Set taxes to 0.0%, that way you won't get spammed with tax messages. I am obviously not going to do that this is something that needs to be fixed but I can conclude that you don't lead in any corporation and if you do you probably don't have to worry about finances
Stop making it into a super-duper-crisis. I am a director. I try to keep track somewhat of finances with help from our resident financial expert. They can just make a separate wallet for taxes and another for regular deposits. It's not game breaking although it might cause some trouble. If it causes too much trouble just set it to 0 until they change it.
Anyways, actually give out examples for when it causes trouble because it helps push your point. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1535
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:18:00 -
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new tab would fix this or just a filter or way to sort corp income out. i am in favor of tab till a filter can added. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:28:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Set taxes to 0.0%, that way you won't get spammed with tax messages. I am obviously not going to do that this is something that needs to be fixed but I can conclude that you don't lead in any corporation and if you do you probably don't have to worry about finances Stop making it into a super-duper-crisis. I am a director. I try to keep track somewhat of finances with help from our resident financial expert. They can just make a separate wallet for taxes and another for regular deposits. It's not game breaking although it might cause some trouble. If it causes too much trouble just set it to 0 until they change it. Anyways, actually give out examples for when it causes trouble because it helps push your point.
that's what im saying! lets say one of my directors withdrawed 5m isk from my corporation ( not a lot ) and I would like to know which one did it. there is a lot of transactions via new taxes and the history just doesn't last long enough for me to tell if some one is donating money or withdrawing money all I have to go on is the last general amount + average tax income
it would be best if I could have one wallet for taxes another for donations and a third for the bulk of money. But lets push the bar how about a third for corporate donations to my members, and a fifth for pc |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:29:00 -
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p.s. don't you love my typography? |
Stile451
Red Star.
EoN.
223
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:31:00 -
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They should give you daily tax income on an expandable line allowing you to see individual payments.
On that vein when I restock a suit that's a single purchase, not 12 separate purchases. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
533
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:31:00 -
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Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Set taxes to 0.0%, that way you won't get spammed with tax messages. I am obviously not going to do that this is something that needs to be fixed but I can conclude that you don't lead in any corporation and if you do you probably don't have to worry about finances Stop making it into a super-duper-crisis. I am a director. I try to keep track somewhat of finances with help from our resident financial expert. They can just make a separate wallet for taxes and another for regular deposits. It's not game breaking although it might cause some trouble. If it causes too much trouble just set it to 0 until they change it. Anyways, actually give out examples for when it causes trouble because it helps push your point. that's what im saying! lets say one of my directors withdrawed 5m isk from my corporation ( not a lot ) and I would like to know which one did it. there is a lot of transactions via new taxes and the history just doesn't last long enough for me to tell if some one is donating money or withdrawing money all I have to go on is the last general amount + average tax income it would be best if I could have one wallet for taxes another for donations and a third for the bulk of money. But lets push the bar how about a third for corporate donations to my members, and a fifth for pc
You just need more wallet tabs and to be able to see incoming data for each + a filter tab for the master wallet. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:32:00 -
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Stile451 wrote:They should give you daily tax income on an expandable line allowing you to see individual payments.
On that vein when I restock a suit that's a single purchase, not 12 separate purchases.
well that's a lot different I don't have to worry about some one stealing my private wallet so I don't pay much attention to that. |
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Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:44:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Set taxes to 0.0%, that way you won't get spammed with tax messages. I am obviously not going to do that this is something that needs to be fixed but I can conclude that you don't lead in any corporation and if you do you probably don't have to worry about finances Stop making it into a super-duper-crisis. I am a director. I try to keep track somewhat of finances with help from our resident financial expert. They can just make a separate wallet for taxes and another for regular deposits. It's not game breaking although it might cause some trouble. If it causes too much trouble just set it to 0 until they change it. Anyways, actually give out examples for when it causes trouble because it helps push your point. that's what im saying! lets say one of my directors withdrawed 5m isk from my corporation ( not a lot ) and I would like to know which one did it. there is a lot of transactions via new taxes and the history just doesn't last long enough for me to tell if some one is donating money or withdrawing money all I have to go on is the last general amount + average tax income it would be best if I could have one wallet for taxes another for donations and a third for the bulk of money. But lets push the bar how about a third for corporate donations to my members, and a fifth for pc You just need more wallet tabs and to be able to see incoming data for each + a filter tab for the master wallet.
yep unless im missing something and dust ceo's can already do that. |
Stile451
Red Star.
EoN.
224
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Posted - 2013.09.10 04:57:00 -
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Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:Stile451 wrote:They should give you daily tax income on an expandable line allowing you to see individual payments.
On that vein when I restock a suit that's a single purchase, not 12 separate purchases. well that's a lot different I don't have to worry about some one stealing my private wallet so I don't pay much attention to that. Ignore the second part as it's just a somewhat related annoyance.
The more I think about it separate headers for different types of transactions set up similarly to how your mail is set up(same format) would work better with separate expiration queues(so that a tax line wouldn't bump a donation or withdrawal). |
Thurak1
Psygod9
158
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Posted - 2013.09.10 06:08:00 -
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Just like everything else with dust this was a feature that was just released so of course there is nearly nothing usable about it. The wallet itself is nearly useless. There is no way at all to sort anything to do with the wallet for some reason. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2013.09.10 06:16:00 -
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Change is definitely needed |
Reaper Skordeman
The Reaper Crew PMC
108
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Posted - 2013.09.10 08:12:00 -
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Simple have a Donations Tab and a Tax Tab, or a filter.
Plus the ability to have them in separate wallets wouldn't hurt.
I hate seeing all the Wallets I can't use... |
DESTROYER416
BlackList Flight Group
22
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Posted - 2013.09.10 08:14:00 -
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if you look at it. it will tell you that someone put money in and how much to. so this doesnt need to be fixed. you just have to read. |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
138
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Posted - 2013.09.10 08:31:00 -
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Having taxes set to more than 0% means your directors only need to play 10 games with a squad of 6 to steal isk from the corp wallet and not be noticed. 
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
209
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:58:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:Having taxes set to more than 0% means your directors only need to play 10 games with a squad of 6 to steal isk from the corp wallet and not be noticed.
I like your style! |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
307
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:17:00 -
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Filters, this is an easy fix for the issue you have pointed out. Filter by character, filter by tax, filter by donation, filter by transfers should allow you the flexibility to pick what you want to see. There is one other thing, wallet divisions would be helpful. This allows directors to split isk into piles for different activities. If you are donating to the corp it goes into X division. If your tax is going to the corp it automatically goes to Y division and if you are paying mercs for services rendered on the battlefield then it gets transferred from Z division.
Allowing a filter set on any one of the divisions would show any aberrant behavior (skimming off the top) and provide one more set of safeties for corporations with large member and director bases. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
7
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:26:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:Having taxes set to more than 0% means your directors only need to play 10 games with a squad of 6 to steal isk from the corp wallet and not be noticed.
lol don't give them ideas |
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Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
720
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:30:00 -
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I'm with the setting the corp tax to 0.00%
That's the best solution for now if you don't want does items there? |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
7
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:57:00 -
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was thinking... what if instead of taxes being added per match what if they were added on top of each 3 hours keeps taxes in the wallet gets rid of the spam and helps with financial management at the same time |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
148
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:42:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:I like your style!
Who doesn't?! |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
17
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Posted - 2013.09.13 00:13:00 -
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this still does not propose a solution to my problem i will continue to bump this thread until i get a reply from ccp |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2839
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Posted - 2013.09.13 00:52:00 -
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First world problems  |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
17
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:02:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:First world problems
not my problem. no offence I don't want to sound like a arrogant brat but if you want to get into politics I can go all day about how we have worried about "third world problems". |
Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
67
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:15:00 -
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Corp tax needs a nerf. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
17
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:17:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:Corp tax needs a nerf.
lol probably though it might just be that your corporation tax is to high.... |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
19
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Posted - 2013.09.15 00:35:00 -
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went back over it my directors went into a panic because I placed our funds into a safe corporation their was no history. guess what was there though? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
117644
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:55:00 -
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Hey guys,
Thank you so much for bringing this up. To be honest I don't think anyone of us thought about corporation tax being a problem like that.
I will talk with the guys on Monday and see if there is something we can come up with.
Game Designer // Team True Grit
http://twitter.com/regnerba |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3263
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:04:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hey guys,
Thank you so much for bringing this up. To be honest I don't think anyone of us thought about corporation tax being a problem like that.
I will talk with the guys on Monday and see if there is something we can come up with.
Confirming my corporation has this problem too.
Thanks for looking into it! |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1447
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:23:00 -
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On a related point - can we get some way of listing only certain things in our personal wallets?
It's annoying when I want to see how much I've earnt from matches but I can only see a handful of the payouts because it's all filled up with the hundreds of restocking purchases I've made. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
117669
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:38:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:On a related point - can we get some way of listing only certain things in our personal wallets?
It's annoying when I want to see how much I've earnt from matches but I can only see a handful of the payouts because it's all filled up with the hundreds of restocking purchases I've made.
I think if we do a filter for the corp wallet we will also apply it to the personal wallet. Assuming there are no technical reasons not to.
Game Designer // Team True Grit
http://twitter.com/regnerba |
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KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
718
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:09:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:You just need more wallet tabs and to be able to see incoming data for each + a filter tab for the master wallet. Like the Filters in Battle Finder?
Hah! Fat chance that will happen.
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drake sadani
Tacti-corp
91
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:15:00 -
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it could be worse.
it could be the united states tax system |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
20
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Posted - 2013.09.15 23:46:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Django Quik wrote:On a related point - can we get some way of listing only certain things in our personal wallets?
It's annoying when I want to see how much I've earnt from matches but I can only see a handful of the payouts because it's all filled up with the hundreds of restocking purchases I've made. I think if we do a filter for the corp wallet we will also apply it to the personal wallet. Assuming there are no technical reasons not to.
Have you thought of giving directors access to the wallet based on what game they are in?
say its a dust ceo eve directors would only have access to one wallet
say its a eve ceo then only dust directors would have access to one wallet |
TunRa
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
180
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:04:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Django Quik wrote:On a related point - can we get some way of listing only certain things in our personal wallets?
It's annoying when I want to see how much I've earnt from matches but I can only see a handful of the payouts because it's all filled up with the hundreds of restocking purchases I've made. I think if we do a filter for the corp wallet we will also apply it to the personal wallet. Assuming there are no technical reasons not to.
Might I suggest that you add a feature that totals up the ISK spent and the ISK earned according to the wallet? Ohh and of corse GRAPHS! |
Thurak1
Psygod9
184
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:41:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:it could be worse.
it could be the united states tax system
Lol in that case i need to start me a non profit and send all my "income" to my non profit so i can claim my income as a tax deduction. Then i will just write myself checks from the non profit or buy things for the non profit which has my living room as the main facility :) |
NoxMort3m
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
66
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Posted - 2013.09.16 05:40:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hey guys,
Thank you so much for bringing this up. To be honest I don't think anyone of us thought about corporation tax being a problem like that.
I will talk with the guys on Monday and see if there is something we can come up with.
just make tax income a separate tab in the wallet
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Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
22
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:32:00 -
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Thank you developer foxfour for acknowledging my thread. just thought I might show a little appreciation |
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