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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.09 09:16:00 -
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Well said. I have also thought about the matter myself, but I don't have much to add to the current topic. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:55:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Have I fallen?
Are we lost?
There is only one possible end when you make those who are destined to Die, never able to. Endless War, Endless Death.
The Cost of Immortality Is Death.
Pure, Simple, and without End. Spirits protect us from apocalyptic poetry. We're still able to die, soldier. Just ask the vast majority of the first generation. If we run out of techs, bioengineers, miners, and all the rest of the support staff of our industry (and we are an industrial product), we'll get to fnd out what it's like. And that's assuming that CONCORD hasn't done the smart thing and installed a killswitch that isn't shaped like an assault rifle.
While the poetry might have been unnecessary, I don't think he is necessarily talking about actual, physical death. A death could be spiritual or psychological, related to that cost we pay when we become immortal.
Most of us usually have some kind of military background, or at least had extensive training while participating in the clone soldier program. A part of that "immortality training" is dealing with the constant loss, pain and suffering we have to endure, and sometimes gone through mental conditioning to just, not care. In a way, a part of us dies when we go through that training, like with capsuleers who experience the Black. Death is nothing but a financial inconvenience, we become disconnected from the outside world, we simply, stop caring. ISK is all that matters.
Some of us have gone over that, found an ideal to hold on to to keep ourselves from going 514 entirely. But even then, me, you, all of us are a little dead from the inside, a hole in our hearts where nothing but darkness resides. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
508
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:35:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:I might have agreed with you if that had been his first post, but...
...Our apocalyptic colleague may be suffering from spiritual harm, but the role he seems to see for us is as bringers of a very physical sort of destruction.
Who is to say that a million deaths can't have a really serious toll on our minds? Who knows, after a million deaths we might destroy ourselves from all the traumas we have had to endure during those million deaths. But point taken.
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Perhaps that is so. It is not clear to me, however, that the experience is the same for us as it is for the capsuleers. The capsuleers seem to acquire the hole you describe. We might acquire something similar by some means, but it seems as though we more often get battered until we become ... numb, I suppose.
That was my point. We might not experience it the same way a capsuleer would, but we experience the same coldness, numbness nevertheless. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:10:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:
Do we?
I hope we do not. My own pit of nothing is quite broad enough without further digging.
A primary trait of capuleerdom is one we lack: perception on a macrocosmic scale, a ship the size of an entire town as a single body that is nevertheless an infinitesimal speck lost in halls of emptiness.
We suffer, as human bodies suffer. We die, as human bodies die. The capsuleers are detached from the human condition. We, on the other hand, are violently subject to it, again, and again, and again.
If we as a whole come to the same murderous apathy as the capsuleers, it will be a strange and a sad thing.
I would certainly hope so too. But then there's this.
This might not exactly the Black or numbness we are talking about, but it certainly isn't healthy either. |
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