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Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:55:00 - [1] - Quote Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill....
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1191	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:57:00 - [2] - Quote Thanks for starting yet another thread on this topic.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 915	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:57:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I can kill any heavy with my proto SMG or ADV LAser Rifle. (if im either close enough or far enough) So EHP =/= Win Positioning = Win
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:58:00 - [4] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Thanks for starting yet another thread on this topic. YOUR FU*KING WELCOME!!!!!
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:59:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I can kill any heavy with my proto SMG or ADV LAser Rifle. (if im either close enough or far enough) So EHP =/= Win Positioning = Win nope... EHP=Win... maybe that heavy sucked and didn't see you coming but in a face to face fight, a 10k isk suit can take down a 150k isk suit with ease now..
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 130	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:00:00 - [6] - Quote I can take down protosuits when i'm in standard because i have more skills then them, maybe you just suck in general ever given that a thought?
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 325	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:01:00 - [7] - Quote lol ... butthurt...
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 916	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:02:00 - [8] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I can kill any heavy with my proto SMG or ADV LAser Rifle. (if im either close enough or far enough) So EHP =/= Win Positioning = Win nope... EHP=Win... maybe that heavy sucked and didn't see you coming but in a face to face fight, a 10k isk suit can take down a 150k isk suit with ease now.. Exactly that. You said face to face. I said positioning. Your heavy cant even touch my Amarr asssault at mid long ranges while i will melt you with my laser. At close i move fast enough and do enough damage (with some headshot bonuses) with my six kin SMG with Prof 4 to drop your 1200+ HP in matter of seconds.... The heavies did not suck. I was just in a position that worked better for me. (same as mid range you would probably splatter my butt) ''10k isk suit can take down a 150k isk suit with ease now.'' <--- Maybe , but 10k suits have always been able to take down Protos suits. Its not like nothing has changed bro.
Halfwings Warbringer ThislsWhyimhot 35	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:03:00 - [9] - Quote ehp does not easy win its whoever land the first shot win
SgtDoughnut M.E.R.C. Elite D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 64	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:06:00 - [10] - Quote I just did a simple ambush match with a freebie suit i threw together (all bpo even the suit). Got my hands on a rail turret and had 2 guys try to run up and kill me, but since I was smart and got out of the rail gun to defend myself, I managed to fight them both off (they expected me to stand there like an idiot with my head in the turret). I made sure I was positioned on the turret so that If i jumped backwards I would go much futher than expected putting them at my ar's optimal range. Position and preparedness won me those fights and all the sweet turret kills I got after beating those 2 back.

SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 181	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:19:00 - [11] - Quote Been taking down proto's with my militia suit since open beta. Aim Assist isn't even an issue except for KB/M users who do not have it. Now the majority of new players have a chance coming from other fps console games. Vets should just be glad new players like dust now. That's shows improvement, even if AA has to be toned down for all the complainers. If not, then remove KB/M and AA altogether to make it fair game.
Paul Ellinas The Phalanx Inc 25	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:56:00 - [12] - Quote FACTS My proto fitting has 800HP. A Militia Assault Rifle makes 34 HPDamage. All i need to get down is 23-24 bulets from the Militia Assault Rifle.Militia Assault Rifles rate of fire is 750 RPM or 12.5 RP second. That means all a Starter fitting needs to do is hit me for 2-3 seconds. The stats of the Dropsuits and the weapons didn't change !!! MY OPINION Before 1.4 it was possible for me to survive for 10-20 seconds taking fire from 2 starter fits. The game works now fine its more like a FPS now and not who has the more SP wins.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3288	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:57:00 - [13] - Quote ITT: Protobear can't protobear anymore, so Devs must die.
Paul Ellinas The Phalanx Inc 26	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:02:00 - [14] - Quote Paul Ellinas wrote: FACTS My proto fitting has 800HP. A Militia Assault Rifle makes 34 HPDamage. All i need to get down is 23-24 bulets from the Militia Assault Rifle.Militia Assault Rifles rate of fire is 750 RPM or 12.5 RP second. That means all a Starter fitting needs to do is hit me for 2-3 seconds. The stats of the Dropsuits and the weapons didn't change !!! MY OPINION Before 1.4 it was possible for me to survive for 10-20 seconds taking fire from 2 starter fits.I truly don't believe that there is someone out there shouting for 10 seconds on me from 5-10 meters and can't hit me. The game works now fine its more like a FPS now and not who has the most SP wins. sorry i hit quote instead of edit
SgtDoughnut M.E.R.C. Elite D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 64	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:03:00 - [15] - Quote Paul Ellinas wrote: Paul Ellinas wrote: FACTS My proto fitting has 800HP. A Militia Assault Rifle makes 34 HPDamage. All i need to get down is 23-24 bulets from the Militia Assault Rifle.Militia Assault Rifles rate of fire is 750 RPM or 12.5 RP second. That means all a Starter fitting needs to do is hit me for 2-3 seconds. The stats of the Dropsuits and the weapons didn't change !!! MY OPINION Before 1.4 it was possible for me to survive for 10-20 seconds taking fire from 2 starter fits.I truly don't believe that there is someone out there shouting for 10 seconds on me from 5-10 meters and can't hit me. The game works now fine its more like a FPS now and not who has the most SP wins. Other than the fact that in 1.3 and previous hit detection was so ****** up i could empty a clip into your face and only 30% of the rounds would hit, id still kill you but id empty a mag.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 683	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:05:00 - [16] - Quote Halfwings Warbringer wrote: its whoever land the first shot win This. And really, unless you're stomping noobs, it's always been this.
Paul Ellinas The Phalanx Inc 26	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:06:00 - [17] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Paul Ellinas wrote: Paul Ellinas wrote: FACTS My proto fitting has 800HP. A Militia Assault Rifle makes 34 HPDamage. All i need to get down is 23-24 bulets from the Militia Assault Rifle.Militia Assault Rifles rate of fire is 750 RPM or 12.5 RP second. That means all a Starter fitting needs to do is hit me for 2-3 seconds. The stats of the Dropsuits and the weapons didn't change !!! MY OPINION Before 1.4 it was possible for me to survive for 10-20 seconds taking fire from 2 starter fits.I truly don't believe that there is someone out there shouting for 10 seconds on me from 5-10 meters and can't hit me. The game works now fine its more like a FPS now and not who has the most SP wins. Other than the fact that in 1.3 and previous hit detection was so ****** up i could empty a clip into your face and only 30% of the rounds would hit, id still kill you but id empty a mag. Really i don't care what they done but they done it right. Hit detection , aim assist who gives a f@^& the game is more fun now.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1529	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:06:00 - [18] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: ITT: Protobear can't protobear anymore, so Devs must die. yup... lets all go down down there and hunt down devs, like it is the land of midgets but only with devs because that is the only sensible thing to do when things go slightly wrong. MASS MURDER.
SgtDoughnut M.E.R.C. Elite D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 64	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:07:00 - [19] - Quote Once again its some bitter vet baddie blaming aim assist because he cant adada strafe out of bullets because they fixed hit detection, god you love to cry don't you.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1563	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:08:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I disagree. I think they should iterate upon Aim Assist, and fine tune it to be less noticeable and Either more or less effective. Whatever is in line with how other similar games operate. CoD,BF,Halo,What have you. They may have to adjust HP or speed accordingly

XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4529	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:12:00 - [21] - Quote Thank you CCP for making this awesome game
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8172	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:13:00 - [22] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... You mean it killed your game?
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1201	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:16:00 - [23] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I know you minmitar slaves are the less evolved race of new eden, but adapt or die.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1826	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:20:00 - [24] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I know you minmitar slaves are the less evolved race of new eden, but adapt or die. Minmatar bitching killed this game.... wait
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3563	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:21:00 - [25] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... Came expecting people all saying different things about skill and lack of it in relation to EVERY means of engaging other players in this game. Left smugly self-satisfied.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1201	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:22:00 - [26] - Quote To be honest if they removed minmatar from the game alot of issues would resolve themselves.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 926	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:31:00 - [27] - Quote actually my friends and me insult each other calling ourselves Son of a Minmatar. Its just so much insulting than bth.... XD
Torneido Achura The Suicide Kingz 33	Posted - 2013.09.09 04:10:00 - [28] - Quote A fatty QQ about getting kills? A fatty on QQ mode cuz he killed some Caldari logi? An AR user QQ about getting kills? What in tha f***?................ Protos are no longer invincible.. they just have found a new place where: now proto users have to be smart to survive, not just go rambo all the way in all battlefields and at all times, now they are buffed soldiers, not just walking gods of war winkwink* We are inmortal mercs, but diying is part of the game so deal with it protobear :P
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 901	Posted - 2013.09.09 19:50:00 - [29] - Quote why are people saying EHP = WIN. EHP = Win EHP + smaller hit box + high mobility = WIN = Caldari suits plus EHP cannot = win, when a militia AR can kill a heavy with 1591 ehp in 3.4 seconds most heavy die even faster....lol
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 726	Posted - 2013.09.09 19:53:00 - [30] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Good job CCP... SP doesn't matter now nor does skill. I can take down a proto cal logi down with my std basic heavy suit because i have more ehp and im using a Basic AR while he uses his duvolle. More ehp = win... skill=no skill.... I can kill any heavy with my proto SMG or ADV LAser Rifle. (if im either close enough or far enough) So EHP =/= Win Positioning = Win What? Tactics over gear? How dare they make this happen?



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