DUST Search - To those with friends who tried and quit Dust, what reasons did they give

Vrain Matari wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

former mag clan mates kept complaining about hit detection, the presence of mouse support, poor game modes, bad ds3 sensitivity.

game modes is probably a big one.

I know CCP is afraid to "Fragment the playerbase" anymore, but they've got it backwards.
They need new game modes or they will continue to lose new players, and hemorrhage old ones.

If you owned a theme park and they were losing customers every year would you

A: Shrink the park and discontinue operation of several rides
B: Keep it the same and hope for something to change
C: Add new attractions

If you answered A, cut back on existing features, then what do you do the next year when customer turnout is even LOWER?

A: Shrink the park and discontinue operation of several rides
B: Keep it the same and hope for something to change?
C: Add new attractions

Now loop that into an infinite regression till you have no rides, and no visitors and you have demonstrated CCP's approach to the problem. A lack of ambition.

I think you excluded a scenario. What if all your rides were poorly designed, suffered from mechanical problems, and your customers were unsatisfied and angry and letting you know about it?

What do you do in that situation?


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Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1545	Posted - 2013.09.09 00:27:00 - [1] - Quote for why they wouldn't bother playing it?
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1554	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:01:00 - [2] - Quote Hellkeizer wrote: My brother said it was boring, my one friend thinks it's stupid with the vague skill description, my cousin hates the realistic shooting and that he couldn't hit anything(prior 1.4), and everyone else the lack of matchmaking. Well whoever writes their skill descriptions is terrible. JS. I'd offer to do it for them, free. The only thing I can imagine is that people in Shanghi write the skill code, and then they can't properly translate it back to English for the Iceland team to understand or something.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1554	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:02:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: for why they wouldn't bother playing it? Aim Assist... broken/dead game... what reason do you have to play... You had friends who first tested Dust in 1.4 and quit because it attempted some level of aim assist? Really?....
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1558	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:19:00 - [4] - Quote derp*
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1558	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:24:00 - [5] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: lemme quote my cousin on this one: Vee's cousin wrote: I don't get it... He's playd all of the halos, he curently plays his fair share of Black Ops and he saw right thru the games set up this isn't a unique game as much we wold like it to be, this game's just straight up convoluted. Well in Halo you don't have to screw around with loadouts, or selecting a new fitting after each death.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1558	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:28:00 - [6] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: former mag clan mates kept complaining about hit detection, the presence of mouse support, poor game modes, bad ds3 sensitivity. game modes is probably a big one. I know CCP is afraid to "Fragment the playerbase" anymore, but they've got it backwards. They need new game modes or they will continue to lose new players, and hemorrhage old ones. If you owned a theme park and they were losing customers every year would you A: Shrink the park and discontinue operation of several rides B: Keep it the same and hope for something to change C: Add new attractions If you answered A, cut back on existing features, then what do you do the next year when customer turnout is even LOWER? A: Shrink the park and discontinue operation of several rides B: Keep it the same and hope for something to change? C: Add new attractions Now loop that into an infinite regression till you have no rides, and no visitors and you have demonstrated CCP's approach to the problem. A lack of ambition.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1560	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:43:00 - [7] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: for why they wouldn't bother playing it? Me and many of my frieds had the same issue. WE bought stuff, thinking it was one way, it ended up being something else. I stayed with Dust. But when they realized they had to start playing all over to actually test/play as something else they dropped it.(they all had between 5-9 million) Thats 6 players lost because the lack of respecs.... Good going CCP / Community. I think this problem is alleviated if CCP did only 2 simple things! 1. Add BPO for weapon that exists, using a militia version. (Must make a few new militias) 2. Convey to new players that skill points cannot be reallocated once spent, and to spend them wisely after testing which weapons they prefer to use. Be 100% certain that this information is received.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1560	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:45:00 - [8] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: I know what i said, idc this game's just straight up convoluted. Well in Halo you don't have to screw around with loadouts, or selecting a new fitting after each death. other games have given him a notion of what a particular class does, and fittings just made it all the more confusing... btw this is just my opinion don't try to convince me: curently dust is a game I like and play casually and get mad at, that will never change :) Altho the $100 I was saving up for an elite pack for late november are slowly becoming my GTA V funds Of course, yeah. No other game has as much fitting selection choices, And 1x use equipment. That's a lot to hit someone with up front and they do a poor job at it.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1563	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:02:00 - [9] - Quote M McManus wrote: To repetitive maps were bland.. hopefully they try 1.4 especially with easy mode aiming.... The old maps were pretty terrible. Glad to see they're learning better level design now. The difference between old sockets and new sockets is night and ****ing day.
Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1565	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:58:00 - [10] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: former mag clan mates kept complaining about hit detection, the presence of mouse support, poor game modes, bad ds3 sensitivity. game modes is probably a big one. I know CCP is afraid to "Fragment the playerbase" anymore, but they've got it backwards. They need new game modes or they will continue to lose new players, and hemorrhage old ones. If you owned a theme park and they were losing customers every year would you A: Shrink the park and discontinue operation of several rides B: Keep it the same and hope for something to change C: Add new attractions If you answered A, cut back on existing features, then what do you do the next year when customer turnout is even LOWER? A: Shrink the park and discontinue operation of several rides B: Keep it the same and hope for something to change? C: Add new attractions Now loop that into an infinite regression till you have no rides, and no visitors and you have demonstrated CCP's approach to the problem. A lack of ambition. I think you excluded a scenario. What if all your rides were poorly designed, suffered from mechanical problems, and your customers were unsatisfied and angry and letting you know about it? What do you do in that situation? Then you don't have a choice. You need to kick it into overdrive and simultaneously work on an appeasing amount of new content And repairing old structural problems. You'd need a balance and at least 110% effort. If you just to one or the other people will be frustrated/bored and quit.

Nguruthos IX Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1565	Posted - 2013.09.09 04:00:00 - [11] - Quote Grief PK wrote: They realized after being lead through the Academy oblivious of the permanent nature of their skill choices that they ****** up royally (out of pure noob ignorance) and asked the valid question ... why am I being punished for my ignorance? /q I'd say if they had BPO's available for every militia weapon and were NOT ALLOWED to use anything else till they completed a short tutorial that explains how items are lost and skills are permanent. This way nobody spends all 500,000 starting SP on repair tools, decides they hate it, realizes they can't undo, uninstall game, never come back.