DUST Search - It's not aim assist, it's improved hit detection

Seymor Krelborn wrote:

Baal Roo wrote:

Clearly hit detection has improved, and that's definitely a good thing.

That doesn't mean however that the aim assist isn't too good for hip-firing. In most scenarios at med-long range you're better off letting the aim assist do all of the heavy lifting for you. If you've got someone at the "optimal" range for, say, a laser rifle/TAC/Scrambler, then simply hovering your aim over the person for a moment with hipfiring will magnetize your reticle to them and unless they move 5+ meters to either side will track them with 100% accuracy.

I don't know why anyone would argue that hipfiring a med-long range weapon at it's maximum optimal distance should be more accurate than actually manually aiming down sites to hit your target. If AIMING is a detriment with the "high skill" aim based weapons; there's a problem.

this is an exaggeration....most of the time everyone is moving around frantically enough that the magnetizing effect is neutralized...

Cmdr Firezone38 wrote:

hmmm... didn't know that. I never hipfire unless i'm close to someone or in a building. So actually never tried hipfiring someone from afar because I never thought it would work.


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Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2515	Posted - 2013.09.09 00:45:00 - [1] - Quote Clearly hit detection has improved, and that's definitely a good thing. That doesn't mean however that the aim assist isn't too good for hip-firing. In most scenarios at med-long range you're better off letting the aim assist do all of the heavy lifting for you. If you've got someone at the "optimal" range for, say, a laser rifle/TAC/Scrambler, then simply hovering your aim over the person for a moment with hipfiring will magnetize your reticle to them and unless they move 5+ meters to either side will track them with 100% accuracy. I don't know why anyone would argue that hipfiring a med-long range weapon at it's maximum optimal distance should be more accurate than actually manually aiming down sites to hit your target. If AIMING is a detriment with the "high skill" aim based weapons; there's a problem.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2518	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:00:00 - [2] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Clearly hit detection has improved, and that's definitely a good thing. That doesn't mean however that the aim assist isn't too good for hip-firing. In most scenarios at med-long range you're better off letting the aim assist do all of the heavy lifting for you. If you've got someone at the "optimal" range for, say, a laser rifle/TAC/Scrambler, then simply hovering your aim over the person for a moment with hipfiring will magnetize your reticle to them and unless they move 5+ meters to either side will track them with 100% accuracy. I don't know why anyone would argue that hipfiring a med-long range weapon at it's maximum optimal distance should be more accurate than actually manually aiming down sites to hit your target. If AIMING is a detriment with the "high skill" aim based weapons; there's a problem. this is an exaggeration....most of the time everyone is moving around frantically enough that the magnetizing effect is neutralized... The problem is that the Aim Assist seems to work based on the distance the enemy moves on your screen. This means that the further the enemy is away from you, the longer the aim assist will track them. Someone 100 meters away has to move 4x as far left or right to break the "magnetic lock" as someone who is 25 meters away. The second half of the problem is that it only seems to do this with hip-fire. Thus, this creates a bizarre dichotomy where the further away someone is from you, the more beneficial it is to hip-fire. Cmdr Firezone38 wrote: hmmm... didn't know that. I never hipfire unless i'm close to someone or in a building. So actually never tried hipfiring someone from afar because I never thought it would work. Yeah, it shouldn't, but it does. That's what everyone is complaining about. It's the uninformed people who don't understand the problem who are arguing that there isn't one. Pull out a laser/TAC/scrambler rifle and try playing a whole match with hipfire. Actually, try 2 or 3 matches that way, because it takes a match or so to get the hang of it. After that I assure you that you'll be back here demanding it be fixed just like the rest of us.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2525	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:22:00 - [3] - Quote Cmdr Firezone38 wrote: So all they actually have to change is the hipfire assist and not the ADS assist Yes. Essentially they need to either bring the ADS aim assist up to that of the hipfire, or bring down the hipfire aim assist so that it's in-line with ADS. I would rather they reduce the hip-fire aim assist, simply because it doesn't make sense for it to be easier to hit people the further away they are from you.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2533	Posted - 2013.09.09 06:14:00 - [4] - Quote Chad Michael Murray wrote: While I agree, there's no point in this thread tbh. All the butthurt people calling it aimbot are just realizing they're not as good as they originally had thought and finding any excuse possible as to why they're dying now that the game works a wee bit better. Did you read the thread? Because it doesn't sound like you read the thread. If you actually believe that hip fire should get more accurate the further the target gets from you, then I can understand arguing that the "game works a wee bit better." However, I highly doubt that is actually your position.