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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:16:00 -
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A lot of people seem to really hate aim assist now that it seems to actually be working. Now I was never for or against aim assist, and I still don't really have a stance on it, but personally I like it. I mean..... its not like anyone "cant" use it, so if you think it gives people an unfair edge then just put it on yourself and your even. The whole point of aim assist is so that controller players have some sort of compensation against the advantages Mouse/keypad users have in terms of aim precision, and guess what? Its actually much easier to hit people now  shocking right?? Aim assist is actually assisting in aim??? whattttttt????
I think this was an overall good add this build. The reasoning is because aim assist really reduces the overall effectiveness of strafing. Fights aren't won by who is better at aiming while strafing, its won by the person who has better positioning, and who made better tactical decisions before contact. Which is a lot more satisfying in my opinion. Sure it sucks that you can be downed fairly quickly compared to old builds, but inversely its much easier to down opponents too. So I really don't know why you people are all complaining about it..... if you think people are using it against you, then use it yourself. Its not like theres any negatives to having it on so just put it on yourself and stop crying about it.
I mean seriously guys..... most console games have some form of aim assist on it (if its an fps). So I don't understand why people make such a big deal over it in this game..... seriously it sounds something like this. "OMG the fact that im doing bad is always the games fault and neverrrrr my own fault"  |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:24:00 -
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Chimeric Destiny wrote:It would figure an STB would be in favor of anything that helps them suck less, will you be on GTA V and KZ forums soon talking about how you were a dominant group on MAG and DUST, you know after all the good groups gave up and left (imagine you'd leave that last part out tho).
lol, Im not bad at this game buddy. Ive held a 5 k/d for the last 5 months and it doesn't seem like its going down :/ But whatever, I just stated my opinion, you can have fun wasting your time on GTA V or..... killzone? |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:27:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Problem is it's too strong. If it was tweaked to where it was like COD's AA, it would be fine.
That's a fair opinion, but you could argue that its needed to be this strong due to the fact that people have so much more health in this game as compared to other games. In cod, it only takes 2-4 bullets to kill anyone, and so you need less assisting simply due to the fact that you only need to be over the guy for a second.
In dust, engagements can last 10+ seconds and so it could be argued that it needs to be this strong. I mean, idc either way cuz I never had aim assist on until this patch anyhow, and if they take it away then it really wont bother me that bad...... |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:28:00 -
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Chimeric Destiny wrote:Marston VC wrote:Chimeric Destiny wrote:It would figure an STB would be in favor of anything that helps them suck less, will you be on GTA V and KZ forums soon talking about how you were a dominant group on MAG and DUST, you know after all the good groups gave up and left (imagine you'd leave that last part out tho). lol, Im not bad at this game buddy. Ive held a 5 k/d for the last 5 months and it doesn't seem like its going down :/ But whatever, I just stated my opinion, you can have fun wasting your time on GTA V or..... killzone? You're STB, you are the definition of bad, 5 k/d thats all, ive seen you scrub around in tanks and MDs. Man thats sad, gedgud.
ehhhh 5 k/d is pretty decent for any FPS man. and I could argue that I see anyone in any corps "scrub around" in tanks/MDs..... not that I do since I don't put points into garbage/ (tanks) or soon to be nerfed (MD's) weapons cuz im not an idiot. |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Marston VC wrote:A lot of people seem to really hate aim assist now that it seems to actually be working. Now I was never for or against aim assist, and I still don't really have a stance on it, but personally I like it. I mean..... its not like anyone "cant" use it, so if you think it gives people an unfair edge then just put it on yourself and your even. The whole point of aim assist is so that controller players have some sort of compensation against the advantages Mouse/keypad users have in terms of aim precision, and guess what? Its actually much easier to hit people now shocking right?? Aim assist is actually assisting in aim??? whattttttt???? I think this was an overall good add this build. The reasoning is because aim assist really reduces the overall effectiveness of strafing. Fights aren't won by who is better at aiming while strafing, its won by the person who has better positioning, and who made better tactical decisions before contact. Which is a lot more satisfying in my opinion. Sure it sucks that you can be downed fairly quickly compared to old builds, but inversely its much easier to down opponents too. So I really don't know why you people are all complaining about it..... if you think people are using it against you, then use it yourself. Its not like theres any negatives to having it on so just put it on yourself and stop crying about it. I mean seriously guys..... most console games have some form of aim assist on it (if its an fps). So I don't understand why people make such a big deal over it in this game..... seriously it sounds something like this. "OMG the fact that im doing bad is always the games fault and neverrrrr my own fault" Oh god, don't tell them cover is better than strafing they might have an aneurism.
Your right.... what was I thinking?? Talking about common sense and not raging about grenades or some other item that I think is OP is just dumb on these forums...... Especially when I get hate instantly on the forums just because im in STB. Nothing like blind trolling for the sake of trolling right? |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:54:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Is aim assist really that bad? It can't possibly be that bad. I finished up the crap I had to do, so i'll be getting on for the first time in a month or so. Maybe i'll make a thread on my 1.4 noobie observation.
He is the core gamer, the bastard child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results. CrotchGrab 360 wrote:You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom.
its not that its bad, people argue that its too good. Personally I notice it, but its not as bad as everyone says. it just makes it so that strafing is less useful because hipfire aim assist negates the advantage strafing gave people. |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:55:00 -
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The Baby Shaker wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Problem is it's too strong. If it was tweaked to where it was like COD's AA, it would be fine. You're complaining about aim assist yet you want it to be like Cod which has the most noob friendly aim assist I've ever seen. If this was implemented into dust you really would have auto aim. Ever notice when playing crap of duty when your shooting someone and another enemy cuts in front of you, your crosshairs immediately begin to track your new target usually leaving the the other guy barely breathing half the time lol. Then if you try to fight the AA you end up shooting the empty space between them looking like an idiot because you're going 1 way and the AA is going the other.
yup...... |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:57:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Yet another aim assist post......
Yet another positive* aim assist post. |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Chimeric Destiny wrote:It would figure an STB would be in favor of anything that helps them suck less, will you be on GTA V and KZ forums soon talking about how you were a dominant group on MAG and DUST, you know after all the good groups gave up and left (imagine you'd leave that last part out tho). STB was not a dominant group in MAg,anyone that played MAG knows this. SVER dominant group was 3C..LOL If nightwing was here...
But he DOES have -+ of a point.The problem is AIM assist is applied to many weapons, even some that dont need it. BUT i believe there some of them that do need it, like the Laser rifle ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108822&find=unread ) or tac AR/SCRAM AT LONG RANGES..... Its not removing it completely
Its not leaving it as it is.Is balancing it depending on the weapon and how much it needs it.... (Like SMGs,SMGs its my MAIN weapon and i dont really appreciate the Aim assist on it, but i wont complain about the aim assist on the laser rifle, see where im going to?)
but aim assist on the SMG is really good though...... like really really good. |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:40:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Saying aim assist was put in to compete with kb/m is idiotic... So you can use kb/m in the multiple other console shooters that encourage aim assist... ? No.. so stfu and learn to play a shooter competitive with out your crutch aim assist..
Multiple Dust players did just that before 1.4 and those guys have my respect not all you worthless pro aim assist ass hats...
dude..... the whole reason aim assist exists is because its a known fact that controllers are less precise then keyboard/mouse. It makes the game more fun to play regardless as to weather its keyboard/mouse compatible. Nobody should be forced to go buy mouse and keyboard to "play competitively" because playing competitively isn't defined as "whoever can spend the most real life $$$ on this game"
learn to play without aim assist? I already said that this was the first time Ive used aim assist in this game, and the only reason I am is because it would leave me at a disadvantage to not use it. So there you go....... |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:47:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:M McManus wrote:Saying aim assist was put in to compete with kb/m is idiotic... So you can use kb/m in the multiple other console shooters that encourage aim assist... ? No.. so stfu and learn to play a shooter competitive with out your crutch aim assist..
Multiple Dust players did just that before 1.4 and those guys have my respect not all you worthless pro aim assist ass hats... kb/m is a valid argument for AA... so you stfu... I played this game long before AA.. I die more now, so what, the game is more brutal, and competitive. you don't like it, leave. more people will actually play now because hit detection is fixed (which is really what your issue is) AA is standard in all console shooters, and compared to some others its very slight... adapt.
logic whattttttttt??????? |
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