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Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 146	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:40:00 - [1] - Quote The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument...
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3753	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:41:00 - [2] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with.
Long Evity Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 82	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:42:00 - [3] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. ^
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 146	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:42:00 - [4] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. it required Skill points
Viktor Zokas High-Damage 346	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:43:00 - [5] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. The skill of having to stand playing the game while CCP took their time fixing stuff.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3753	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:43:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. it required Skill points which can be attained by being AFK
SHOCKNOFSKY H.Y.S.T.E.R.I.A 14	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:44:00 - [7] - Quote Remove aim assist
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 97	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:44:00 - [8] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... Depends in your definition of skill
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3753	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:44:00 - [9] - Quote SHOCKNOFSKY wrote: Remove aim assist No. Make it weaker.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 119	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:48:00 - [10] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... 1. Aim assist has been around since forever ago so why do you say it does not require skill anymore although it has always been here. 2. swarms never required skill, it is a huge aim assist in it's self you just lock and shot.

Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 147	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:01:00 - [11] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... Depends in your definition of skill what is your definition of skill?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 119	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:10:00 - [12] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... Depends in your definition of skill what is your definition of skill? Your the one who made the thread, so answer the questions given to you if you want your statement to hold any ground. Not just ask the same question back
J Lav OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 206	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:13:00 - [13] - Quote Since you're only made an assertion, without any supporting argument, no counter argument is needed.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 446	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:15:00 - [14] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: SHOCKNOFSKY wrote: Remove aim assist No. Make it weaker. Lance, when you talk about AA. How exactly do you want it to be? What are your criteria for it? What should it be able to accomplish?
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1327	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:16:00 - [15] - Quote I agree with the FPS part but not the Swarm Launchers, they are as useful as the Potato Thrower, even if the Potatoes are actually faster now. Vehicle superiority is back, i am pretty sure that Tankers and Pilots are enjoying their new role in the top of the Food Chain. In the other hand it looks like CCP have decided to drop the FPS dream, and focus in the RPG part of the game more.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 148	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:19:00 - [16] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... Depends in your definition of skill what is your definition of skill? Your the one who made the thread, so answer the questions given to you if you want your statement to hold any ground. Not just ask the same question back The ability to do something well without help....
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3757	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:19:00 - [17] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: SHOCKNOFSKY wrote: Remove aim assist No. Make it weaker. Lance, when you talk about AA. How exactly do you want it to be? What are your criteria for it? What should it be able to accomplish? Lower the magnetism in CQC. I don't notice a huge impact from AA at range.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 148	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:20:00 - [18] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: I agree with the FPS part but not the Swarm Launchers, they are as useful as the Potato Thrower, even if the Potatoes are actually faster now. Vehicle superiority is back, i am pretty sure that Tankers and Pilots are enjoying their new role in the top of the Food Chain. In the other hand it looks like CCP have decided to drop the FPS dream, and focus in the RPG part of the game more. WHAT FKING TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN!!! YOU MOTHA FUTHA!!! WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM!!
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1327	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:23:00 - [19] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I agree with the FPS part but not the Swarm Launchers, they are as useful as the Potato Thrower, even if the Potatoes are actually faster now. Vehicle superiority is back, i am pretty sure that Tankers and Pilots are enjoying their new role in the top of the Food Chain. In the other hand it looks like CCP have decided to drop the FPS dream, and focus in the RPG part of the game more. WHAT FKING TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN!!! YOU MOTHA FUTHA!!! WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM!! Have you even tried to use a Swarm Launcher ? or you just complaining because you got killed once by 5 AV grenades and ONE Swarm Launcher ?
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 447	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:23:00 - [20] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: SHOCKNOFSKY wrote: Remove aim assist No. Make it weaker. Lance, when you talk about AA. How exactly do you want it to be? What are your criteria for it? What should it be able to accomplish? Lower the magnetism in CQC. I don't notice a huge impact from AA at range. I did not mean how to nerf AA. I am wondering what you think it's supposed to accomplish. I am not asking if you are thinking it's weak, strong or just right. I am wondering why you think it should be in the game in the first place as opposed to everyone relying on themselves. Is it balance against KBM or is it to stimulate more dynamic, faster paced game?

Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1178	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:25:00 - [21] - Quote The game is a more tactical based shooter. It has changed gears from strafe and aim.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3758	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:33:00 - [22] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: SHOCKNOFSKY wrote: Remove aim assist No. Make it weaker. Lance, when you talk about AA. How exactly do you want it to be? What are your criteria for it? What should it be able to accomplish? Lower the magnetism in CQC. I don't notice a huge impact from AA at range. I did not mean how to nerf AA. I am wondering what you think it's supposed to accomplish. I am not asking if you are thinking it's weak, strong or just right. I am wondering why you think it should be in the game in the first place as opposed to everyone relying on themselves. Is it balance against KBM or is it to stimulate more dynamic, faster paced game? It certainly makes gameplay faster. No more 10-15 seconds of 1v1, which makes it more tactical knowing you can get insta popped by 2 guys shooting at you. So it's a faster more tactical DUST. Is it to balance DS3 vs kb/m? Maybe. IMO kb/m support shouldn't be on a console shooter. It's a huge balancing act, and there will always be people that think their method is inferior to the next. Fact is, m/kb is better than controllers. AA is sort of leveling the playing field...or in this case just blow away m/kb with how strong it is.
Boxoffire Ninth Legion Freelance Top Men. 113	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:36:00 - [23] - Quote It does help balance KBM vs DS3. Also I like how everyone is making a huge deal. If you compare aim assist in Dust now to any other console FPS it would be a joke to call it aim assist. No assist when ADS, and only works at close range. Just the fact that it pulls on your crosshairs a lot at that close range gets everybody worked up. I say aim assist does still need some tweaking, although it might fix most people's concerns ATM, if CCP gets aim assist correctly, it might turn out worse for the whiners in the forums.
Selinate deux DUST University Ivy League 113	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:38:00 - [24] - Quote Aim Assist is fine as it is, and is a staple of FPSs on the consoles since it's so non-intuitive and clunky to aim with a controller. Take your whining somewhere else or go play an FPS on the computer.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 860	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:45:00 - [25] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. Kittenpoop. Many of the best players from MAG are top of the leaderboards on DUST. By your argument that's what, a coincidence?
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 449	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:46:00 - [26] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: Aim Assist is fine as it is, and is a staple of FPSs on the consoles since it's so non-intuitive and clunky to aim with a controller. Take your whining somewhere else or go play an FPS on the computer. Great. Yay for mediocrity.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 449	Posted - 2013.09.08 19:51:00 - [27] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. Kittenpoop. Many of the best players from MAG are top of the leaderboards on DUST. By your argument that's what, a coincidence? That's consistent flocking to the OP FOTM. Sadly, it's by ppl who used to command respect on MAG.
G Torq ALTA B2O 219	Posted - 2013.09.08 20:02:00 - [28] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... I'll give it a shot: CCP Games has concluded, based on their statements that AimAssist is here to balance Controllers vs Keyboard&Mouse, that AimAssist is required. As such, I'll observe that the game already didn't require "skill" but simply a Keyboard and a Mouse. Feel free to remove AimAssist at the same time as Keyboard&Mouse support is removed.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 860	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:05:00 - [29] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... this game never required skill to begin with. Kittenpoop. Many of the best players from MAG are top of the leaderboards on DUST. By your argument that's what, a coincidence? That's consistent flocking to the OP FOTM. Sadly, it's by ppl who used to command respect on MAG. They're playing to win, by hook or by crook. But i will guarantee you that they can still shoot.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:06:00 - [30] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I agree with the FPS part but not the Swarm Launchers, they are as useful as the Potato Thrower, even if the Potatoes are actually faster now. Vehicle superiority is back, i am pretty sure that Tankers and Pilots are enjoying their new role in the top of the Food Chain. In the other hand it looks like CCP have decided to drop the FPS dream, and focus in the RPG part of the game more. WHAT FKING TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN!!! YOU MOTHA FUTHA!!! WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM!! Have you even tried to use a Swarm Launcher ? or you just complaining because you got killed once by 5 AV grenades and ONE Swarm Launcher ? i have proto swarms and proto FG, i am fking tanks worst nightmare, i destroy tanks in 10 seconds... i feel bad for them but i am also a tanker at the same time...

Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:07:00 - [31] - Quote G Torq wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... I'll give it a shot: CCP Games has concluded, based on their statements that AimAssist is here to balance Controllers vs Keyboard&Mouse, that AimAssist is required. As such, I'll observe that the game already didn't require "skill" but simply a Keyboard and a Mouse. Feel free to remove AimAssist at the same time as Keyboard&Mouse support is removed. aim assist is worse than keyboard an mouse...
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 347	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:09:00 - [32] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... lawllllllllllllllllllllllll
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8159	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:12:00 - [33] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... Obviously your skill in getting shot is dramatically increased.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:51:00 - [34] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... Obviously your skill in getting shot is dramatically increased. dude your not even funny.. -_- or shall i say your skill in comedy is at a critical low...
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1805	Posted - 2013.09.08 21:56:00 - [35] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The FPS part of this game requires no skill anymore and you cannot make a counter argument... Also swarm launchers require no skill and now are OP and you cannot make a counter argument... I can. They are not OP since I am a tanker who drive MLT Tanks.... All I can say about swarms is that they really are two shot wonders, if a tank is in a good position it should be able to take the two volleys and make it to a safe zone and be back within 30 seconds, if you are out of position then you are a dead tin can and deserve to have died. But you are right they take virtually no skill to use. But really in a video game how much skill can you have that actually means something or is worth anything?


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