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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
74
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:51:00 -
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I just bought the merc pack. So I have a BPO for caldari assault. My main char is also caldari. So in theory, I get the tiny racial bonuses, if I used it.
However, I'm not seeing much benefit to it over just using the free militia "assault" fits for caldari.
Would you good folks educate me please?
So far, i'm looking at stats, and see:
- a TEENIE bit more power
- faster shield regen on base (okay thats good)
- an extra low slot?
Fringe benefits: I wouldnt be forced to equip something in the "Equipment" slot. But, I'll miss out on all the other freebie stuff the militia suit provides.
(yes I'm a cheapskate :) )
Any other comments?
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Megaman Trigger
Beyond Gravity.OTF
33
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:59:00 -
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BPO is non-consumable, thus doesn't cost any ISK when restocking as the suit itself never needs to be restocked. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
74
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:12:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:BPO is non-consumable, thus doesn't cost any ISK when restocking as the suit itself never needs to be restocked.
yeah, but the same thing is true about the militia fit, and THAT comes with free weapons on top of it.
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Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
224
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:13:00 -
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BPO has an additional low slot. Very nice since you can put some extra armor in dat ****.  |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
251
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:19:00 -
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Trust me you wont miss the 3k per suit if you choose to fit it. Besides the militia suit wont let you fit a plate and a rep, you will want both. Because the moment your shields go down your even more screwed if you don't have a plate, however you wont last long if you never get that health back will you? |
hydraSlav's
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:22:00 -
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First of all, your character has absolutely zero bearing on any stats.
Secondly, Caldari Assault (if that's what you have) gets "Assault" class bonus and "Caldari Assault" class bonus. That's 2 pretty big bonuses (not "tiny"). You need to have Caldari Assault skill actually trained to see their benefit.
The bonuses are:
- Shield Recharge Rate bonus
- Bonus to amount of Shield the Shield Extenders give
Don't confuse Assault Dropsuit class and Militia default fit called "assault". That was a poor choice of names on CCP's part. Your Militia dropsuit does not get class racial bonuses |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
74
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:35:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Trust me you wont miss the 3k per suit if you choose to fit it. Besides the militia suit wont let you fit a plate and a rep, you will want both. Because the moment your shields go down your even more screwed if you don't have a plate, however you wont last long if you never get that health back will you?
GIven the current "TTK" oF CQC, having plate added, will extend my lifespan from 2.0 seconds, to 2.2 seconds.
I'm not feeing the love, i'm afraid :-/
To hydraSlav:
Even if you train them, they're something stupidsmall like 2% per level. Even if you get it up to level 5, at crazyhigh levels of SP.. thats.. 10% of 25 = 2.5.
So.. change from "25", to "27.5".
I dont see that as a "pretty big bonus" :(
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
1076
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:55:00 -
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hydraSlav's wrote:First of all, your character has absolutely zero bearing on any stats.
Secondly, Caldari Assault (if that's what you have) gets "Assault" class bonus and "Caldari Assault" class bonus. That's 2 pretty big bonuses (not "tiny"). You need to have Caldari Assault skill actually trained to see their benefit.
The bonuses are:
- Shield Recharge Rate bonus
- Bonus to amount of Shield the Shield Extenders give
Don't confuse Assault Dropsuit class and Militia default fit called "assault". That was a poor choice of names on CCP's part. Your Militia dropsuit does not get class racial bonuses
FFS... his character's race determines what starter suit he has and that's what he meant.
To OP: It's all about the second low slot. Huge percentage HP gain with a basic plate. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
930
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Posted - 2013.09.10 10:51:00 -
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I think its worth it, you can fit 2 shield regulators on that thing.
Which weapon are you using? |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
84
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:10:00 -
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Not sure what choice of weapon has to do with uch.
Im still experimenting. Sometimes AR, sometimes scrambler rifle.
Sometimes sniper.
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Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet
Top Men.
45
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:17:00 -
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Yes, use starter fits forever to stockpile fake internet space money while coming up with hilarious excuses to never use the BPOs you spent real money on. This is normal. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
101
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:48:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:
FFS... his character's race determines what starter suit he has and that's what he meant.
To OP: It's all about the second low slot. Huge percentage HP gain with a basic plate.
With scanning the way it is, I think I'll end up using it for the low slot.. but I'm going to put in a dampener rather than HP.
The HP isnt worth it, until I skilled up much higher, I think.
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Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:03:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:
FFS... his character's race determines what starter suit he has and that's what he meant.
To OP: It's all about the second low slot. Huge percentage HP gain with a basic plate.
With scanning the way it is, I think I'll end up using it for the low slot.. but I'm going to put in a dampener rather than HP. The HP isnt worth it, until I skilled up much higher, I think.
Don't bother with a dampener unless it's ADV with skill 3. Otherwise, you won't be able to hide from even STD scanners. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
101
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:41:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
With scanning the way it is, I think I'll end up using it for the low slot.. but I'm going to put in a dampener rather than HP.
The HP isnt worth it, until I skilled up much higher, I think.
Don't bother with a dampener unless it's ADV with skill 3. Otherwise, you won't be able to hide from even STD scanners.
Thanks for pointing that out. However, funnily enough, if you have profile dampening skill 3, you can then get away with a militia damp, if my math is correct.
55 * (.98 x3) * .85 = 44, which is less than 46
putting in an advanced, wont get you under the next tier, so it's not worth it for medium suits..
And of course, logi suits would be fine with a militia dampener, whether or not you have skill in damping :p |
Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
182
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:24:00 -
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the caldari assault bpo is an excellent suit, use the aur to buy some militia blueprints, and let the monies roll in! currently I use the low slot for armor reps, to survive the next conflict. and two militia shield extenders or extender/damage mod combo, depending on what I use it for.
the suit cost me 0isk, and I can go 15/3 on most games, as long as no proto come around |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1073
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:46:00 -
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It's Caldari, of course its worth it.
And when it comes to class building, my long run of video gaming has taught me that anything is better than the default class given. Anything.
If its an upgrade, equip it until you find something better. Rinse and repeat. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
122
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:55:00 -
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Thought I'd give some feedback after using it for a while.
I had never realy though/noticed just how big a difference the shield regen is.
25HP/sec, vs .. what. 15?
The difference seems HUUUGE!! I can actually get most, if not all, of my shields back now, when i duck into cover, before the enemy finds me again. I'm actually surviving more! :D
Just for the shield regen, I find it worthwhile.
So i thoroughly recommend assault over militia. Whether you have to skill into it, or buy a BPO.
reminder to others: its the same as caldari medium suit, but cheaper. Due to price, I dont recommend medium suit though!
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