Marauder HAV's were although better than the STD HAV's, you could do comparable performance with the STD ones, and were twice as expensive. With some adjustments, they can be the ultimate tanking machine they were supposed to be!

First, give it a base resistance of 10-20% depending on race. After that, give it a reduced acceleration and speed of the base HAV by 10-15%, maybe more. Lastly, get rid of the damage bonus from the skill, as that's something the Enforcer HAV's should get..

Now, add in a built in siege module from EVE, with some changes. First, it would make it unmovable, and unrecallable. That would make it to where it would have to be guarded at all times while the Siege module is on. But, it would get some really good bonuses, such as a very high resistance, higher rep cycle, more damage, etc. depending on the race. They should also also allow the use of remote repps, in contrast to the Dreds of EVE. Lastly, it should last about 2-5 minutes, with a coodown of about 5 minutes. turning off the module before the cooldown starts will have apre-cooldown in which you are stuck in siege mode, and when it turns off, you start the cooldown, which will prevent hitting a area really fast, running away, and then waiting for it to cooldown. Also, in the last minute, you can't turn it off to prevent abuse.

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Good idea, but what would you do in terms of a hard counter?

Like I said, the thing can't move, so getting rushed is a great possibility. Also, EWAR things could hurt it's ability to aim and get info on where the enemy is.

Well it sounds good to me then, all though I assume fitting requirements will be through the roof!!

I've been looking at all your ideas (need to update your index worth the new links!) and I've noticed that you're a fan of long cool downs to balance powerful effects.

Well, when the Saga-II was accidentally released with its godmode hardener, rather Han waiting for the cool down to finish, I (and a lot of other people) called in a new one.

Just some food for thought; I don't think too many of these ideas will work as intended while recall is so easily abuseable.

That would actually fix most of the issues. Better than what I was thinking; in my head I had it as a good idea that when you call in a new vehicle the cool downs carry over, or something.

Murauders were originally designed with not needing infantry in the mindset I don't think we can ever do it justice again.

Marauders were originally designed with not needing infantry in the mindset I don't think we can ever do it justice again.

Muraders were originally designed with not needing infantry in the mindset I don't think we can ever do it justice again.

Do it justice isn't quite the term I'd use, makes it sound like the Marauder HAVs were good for the game's health. They were dubbed 'proto HAV' for a reason, things were monsters. One guy deployed a Sagaris in Mordu's and BLAM, game over. I like the whole slow as a rolling potato thing, and removal of the damage bonus. Gives it a defined role as opposed to just 'better in every way' like the old ones were.

I hope they noticed the pun...

Well, someone got where I was going at. Anyways, I saw what you did there

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Good idea, but what would you do in terms of a hard counter?

As much as I want my sagi back I was still abke to solo most mauraders back in chrome with either my dcma or ishicone forge gun . If the maurauders return as true proto HAVs I hope they will be worth the inevidably high isk and sp needed to run them (we all know enforcers are a glimpse of what ccp might do to mauraders) . Im much more intarested in black ops varients as tgey could lead to some awesome game play.

Thinknof this scenario. Line harvest map and your team is assaulting from alpha bravo side. You have alpha and bravo but are met with a tough front line to break. So your tanker falls back and recalls their current tank.

Calls in the black ops tank with cloak and mobile cru. Engages cloak and circles round redlind to just behind charly and flanks the enimy just before disengaging the cloak and opening fire. The crew that arnt piloting jump out and start to assault tge enimy . The next 2 to spawn in jump out and go for the hack the next two jump out and protect the hackers . Once the hack is in they start to push the enimy on the flank. The havs cloaking cooldown has finished so it withdraws and cloaks moving on to another enimy flank to wrinse and repeat. Awesome..........?

E-war....but that ain't out yet.

+1 - I'm all in favour of unique roles roles and abilities instead of straight stat buffing. Maybe the timers should be shorter, but that's really something that has to be tuned in testing. Also, given that Eve Marauders are getting their own siege-like mode in Eve with the Rubicon expansion I find this really appropriate.

Oh, they're giving marauders a mini-siege in Rubicon? didn't know that. Actually, I was basing this off the origional plan: make them the Dreds of dust.

Don't have much in the way of details for you, but yeah - siege light or something. It's coming with some cool transforming affects when you activate it, though all they've shown us thus-far is a still image of a Kronos with a popped hood and some lights. Might be worth keeping an eye on and having both classes in sync.

link?

Link. Scroll down a bit and you'll see the "Rubicon Reveal Video" which is what I watched. Not sure if they've released anything new, I only saw the reveal stream because I stumbled across the fact it was about to air while bored.

I saw that, but didn't feel like watching the video. Thx!

Yeah, sorry about that. It's pretty painful and there isn't much in the way of details anyway. Best just to keep an eye on the dev blogs for some proper information.