Or trade offs between the two?

More DPS, less EHP,
More EHP, less DPS
More shields, less armor
More armor less shields


Does anyone else think it's crucial that Fittings become less about maximizing Tank or DPS and more about roles and capabilities?

In other words is it vital at this point that Dust start adding Modules who's usefulness greatly challenges the merits of more HP or damage in favor of things like cloaking, webs, E-War, scanning, buffs/debuggs, Other, etc?

There's already things like that ingame, but using them doesn't help much, and the CPU/PG requirements are way too high. Anyways, I think the Cloak should be a built in module for Scouts suits, and only scout suits.

Far as I am concerned, suits have always revolved around who had the most HP or DPS. I know that's the only thing I have ever focused on.

Honestly I would like to see an experiment take place, remove the ability to increase health via modules (whether that be shields or armor). Then adjust suit HP based on the type of suit, race etc. Then increase HP either by tier, or make them all the same but the higher end suits will get more module slots and PG/CPU.

Suits other stats would remain the same as they are now (sprint speeds, movement speeds, stamina etc etc).

Not only would this make balancing weapons infinitely easier, but it would also create a larger pool of unique suits, instead of 95% of the players doing nothing by HP tanking as much as they can.

Wouldn't scouts be gimped then?

Or trade offs between the two?

More DPS, less EHP,
More EHP, less DPS
More shields, less armor
More armor less shields


Does anyone else think it's crucial that Fittings become less about maximizing Tank or DPS and more about roles and capabilities?

In other words is it vital at this point that Dust start adding Modules who's usefulness greatly challenges the merits of more HP or damage in favor of things like cloaking, webs, E-War, scanning, buffs/debuggs, Other, etc?

I run dragonfly scout, so two damps is all the modules I can fit

Scrambler Pistol head shots are my dps and stealth active scanner are my tank

I doubt you do well with that.

I agree.

I do quite well with it, just don't get hit, don't run in the open and wait for the back to turn by using the active scanner

I easily go 12/6 14/2 6/4

While I do have bad games of 6/6, rarely if ever do I go below 1.0 ratio and if I do it is usually 1/3 when its bad.

My KDR has actually gone up significantly and at this rate will eventually be breaking into new KDR territory.

Edit:

I'll put it this way, if I had a KDR reset after 1.4, I would be in the 2.5-3.0 range.

I do quite well with it, just don't get hit, don't run in the open and wait for the back to turn by using the active scanner

I easily go 12/6 14/2 6/4

While I do have bad games of 6/6, rarely if ever do I go below 1.0 ratio and if I do it is usually 1/3 when its bad.

My KDR has actually gone up significantly and at this rate will eventually be breaking into new KDR territory.

Edit:

I'll put it this way, if I had a KDR reset after 1.4, I would be in the 2.5-3.0 range.

Most people don't consider that ''good''...
But I'm not being a douche, I have been there. Now that my beloved OP AR is unusable because of ADS sensitivity I am using a shotgun fit. It costs me 37k and basicly allows me to play with minimal risk but still achieve high rewards. Most of the time I just rush in and try and kill the bastards but other times I use the active scanner to pre-fire and kill anyone who comes around a corner.

Glad someone understands its HROF weaponry!!

How in the hell can you say the AR is unusable. 1.4 took me from the AR is fine side to it needs a nerf. This from someone with prof 4 in it. A milita AR is now capable to chewing through a proto suit like its a milita suit. With improved hit detection the AR is ridiculously easy to use.

What do you think is attributed to your sudden improvement? No trolling, just curious.

Most people don't consider that ''good''...
But I'm not being a douche, I have been there. Now that my beloved OP AR is unusable because of ADS sensitivity I am using a shotgun fit. It costs me 37k and basicly allows me to play with minimal risk but still achieve high rewards. Most of the time I just rush in and try and kill the bastards but other times I use the active scanner to pre-fire and kill anyone who comes around a corner.

Not to be a PS2 fanboy but in that game engineers rarely use their guns, they are too busy doing engineer-y things, same with medics, they spend 75% of their time being a medic and only 25% being a soldier.

These 2 classes aren't super deep but they are more valuable fulfilling their assigned role than they are shooting. Question is why? Dust has effectively the same "class" setup available via its varied modules, so why doesn't the same end result.

PS2 had certain guns only certain classes could use, also the logistic suits have the highest module counts which in a game that is as flexible as Dust equates to a lot of power to fine turn everything the way you want. Logis have the best Alpha damage in the game due to slots and are the best snipers. Nanohive to resupply, repair tool to heal dropships, dropuplink to keep the good spots equates to sniper heaven, something PS2 Medics and engineers can't do.

Yes but if "shooting stuff" was the best battlefield option then every one in PS2 would play a heavy assault, you have the best rifle, the best shield and an AV weapon. Yet people clearly do not, people select engineer and do engineer things and a team with no one playing engineer (or medic) feels the lack.

So even if you assume the Logi is "the best suit" then why aren't a portion of the Logis building themselves as "engineers" even if the rest are glorified assaults. Those roles serve no purpose in Dust because the objectives and playstyle have no use for them.

Part of this problem is also the whole no valuable engineer modules for the high slots, you get everything you need via the equipment slot and you have 3 so why not devote all your highs and lows to EHP/DPS

Not to be a PS2 fanboy but in that game engineers rarely use their guns, they are too busy doing engineer-y things, same with medics, they spend 75% of their time being a medic and only 25% being a soldier.

These 2 classes aren't super deep but they are more valuable fulfilling their assigned role than they are shooting. Question is why? Dust has effectively the same "class" setup available via its varied modules, so why doesn't the same end result.

Two different games. Logistics don't have a lot of equipment choices right now either. I've been a logi since Chrome and was excited when I saw the active scanner and deployable shields. We need more equipment than we have right now.