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2Bee Smith
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:35:00 -
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Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller |
Flatman22
Myrmidon Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:04:00 -
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I'm a console player, and aim assist has ruined dust for me. Shields and armor vanish in an instant due to players inability to miss. Ever. Heavies have become cannon fodder and logis are are just free war points. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
553
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:10:00 -
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I'm seeing nerf it, not remove it. |
Fire9er Greko
Mango and Friends
25
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:13:00 -
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I hate it for our friends with proto fearless gun game but the only way to keep it interesting is to have the newberries sporting the advantage makes it slightly competitive slightly.
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:15:00 -
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Flatman22 wrote:I'm a console player, and aim assist has ruined dust for me. Shields and armor vanish in an instant due to players inability to miss. Ever. Heavies have become cannon fodder and logis are are just free war points.
Once again your over exaggerating, if im am fast and on my toes, I can still cook and throw a flux, followed by 2 md rounds, I can still beat aim assisted players!!
Now before you say im a brick tanked logi, I am infact a rep tanked assault!! Min adv assault, 2 sheild extenders, 1energiser, 1 plate, 1 rep!! My suits has 460 ehp total, about 243 sheilds and 217 armour (I think), mathematically speaking a miltia ar requires 1.2 seconds to kill me, more or less, yet for me to do the above, assuming I am aware of his presence when he pulls the trigger, takes 4.5 secs, more than it takes to empty an entire ar mag of 48 rounds at nearly 1400 damage!!
Tell me if you cant miss how is the mathematically possible?? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
781
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:17:00 -
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Flatman22 wrote:I'm a console player, and aim assist has ruined dust for me. Shields and armor vanish in an instant due to players inability to miss. Ever. Heavies have become cannon fodder and logis are are just free war points.
this is a bs exaggeration.. I have missed, and been missed... |
murdergloves21
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:17:00 -
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2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller Wrong matchmaking mitigates proto stomping and no to aim assisst and why wouldnt the community be up in arms what kinda legit player wants this bs cod bf3 shite in this game how do you think your able to quickscope in cod guarantee if they took aa outta cod quickscopeing would be a dieing breed |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:26:00 -
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murdergloves21 wrote:2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller Wrong matchmaking mitigates proto stomping and no to aim assisst and why wouldnt the community be up in arms what kinda legit player wants this bs cod bf3 shite in this game how do you think your able to quickscope in cod guarantee if they took aa outta cod quickscopeing would be a dieing breed
Its not cod or bf3, ccp willmlook at the metrics and decide what needs to be done, no amouht of whining will solve this, besides it doesnt snap to your target, but it does drag you behind them for 1/4 a second, please just stop complaining, or has the fact the md was left untouched taught you nothing?? |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
31
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:32:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:murdergloves21 wrote:2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller Wrong matchmaking mitigates proto stomping and no to aim assisst and why wouldnt the community be up in arms what kinda legit player wants this bs cod bf3 shite in this game how do you think your able to quickscope in cod guarantee if they took aa outta cod quickscopeing would be a dieing breed Its not cod or bf3, ccp willmlook at the metrics and decide what needs to be done, no amouht of whining will solve this, besides it doesnt snap to your target, but it does drag you behind them for 1/4 a second, please just stop complaining, or has the fact the md was left untouched taught you nothing??
I think it is fine the way it is now. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
247
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:32:00 -
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Flatman22 wrote:I'm a console player, and aim assist has ruined dust for me. Shields and armor vanish in an instant due to players inability to miss. Ever. Heavies have become cannon fodder and logis are are just free war points. Your exagerating. Especially about heavies. My HMG heavy can consistantly go 20+ kills with 1-3 deaths. Learn how to navigate the map and use cover. |
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murdergloves21
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:37:00 -
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Watch the video the russians made about aim assisst and then come back and tell me that shites not broke until then i can give a fk about how much you love your new training wheels mommy and daddy got you for christmas |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
133
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:40:00 -
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Flatman22 wrote:I'm a console player, and aim assist has ruined dust for me. Shields and armor vanish in an instant due to players inability to miss. Ever. Heavies have become cannon fodder and logis are are just free war points. That has more to do with with hit detection than Aim Assist I think. Has everyone forgot that we used to die about this fast in Chromosome? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:43:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:murdergloves21 wrote:2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller Wrong matchmaking mitigates proto stomping and no to aim assisst and why wouldnt the community be up in arms what kinda legit player wants this bs cod bf3 shite in this game how do you think your able to quickscope in cod guarantee if they took aa outta cod quickscopeing would be a dieing breed Its not cod or bf3, ccp willmlook at the metrics and decide what needs to be done, no amouht of whining will solve this, besides it doesnt snap to your target, but it does drag you behind them for 1/4 a second, please just stop complaining, or has the fact the md was left untouched taught you nothing?? I think it is fine the way it is now.
I think its fine, not perfect (what is?), but fine, my only real problem is HROF weaponry is too good, it majorly outperfoms, the need some damage reduction (15% ??) and it ll be perfect!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:45:00 -
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murdergloves21 wrote:Watch the video the russians made about aim assisst and then come back and tell me that shites not broke until then i can give a fk about how much you love your new training wheels mommy and daddy got you for christmas
I did, I saw no aimbot, maybe an overzealous AA, but tell me refer to my example, why can I still do this?? |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
395
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:48:00 -
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Make aim assist AUR. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
784
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:21:00 -
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murdergloves21 wrote:Watch the video the russians made about aim assisst and then come back and tell me that shites not broke until then i can give a fk about how much you love your new training wheels mommy and daddy got you for christmas
saw the vid...not that big of a deal...get over yourself... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1837
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:28:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:murdergloves21 wrote:Watch the video the russians made about aim assisst and then come back and tell me that shites not broke until then i can give a fk about how much you love your new training wheels mommy and daddy got you for christmas saw the vid...not that big of a deal...get over yourself...
wow |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
442
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:34:00 -
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2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller
Because some ppl take satisfaction from playing a game where you have to develp and practice a skill instead of having the usual COD style AA gimme.
Just becuase CCP effed up and let KBM and DS into a single game does not mean that they need to add an aimbot too. Two wrongs don't make one right. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1838
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:39:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller Because some ppl take satisfaction from playing a game where you have to develp and practice a skill instead of having the usual COD style AA gimme. Just becuase CCP effed up and let KBM and DS into a single game does not mean that they need to add an aimbot too. Two wrongs don't make one right.
im not gonna lie, i demand kb+m and they promised it early on. i have been using it for years.
we need aim assist, just not one that tracks the enemy for you without user input. |
Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES
57
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:39:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:2Bee Smith wrote:Yes to Aim Assist, it mitigates proto-stomping and is essential to any console shooter. Although it does need tweaking, it needs to stay in the game. I don't see why the community is so up in arms about this. It also evens the gap between keyboard and mouse and the controller Because some ppl take satisfaction from playing a game where you have to develp and practice a skill instead of having the usual COD style AA gimme. Just becuase CCP effed up and let KBM and DS into a single game does not mean that they need to add an aimbot too. Two wrongs don't make one right.
Amen to that brother, amen to that |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
4967
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:19:00 -
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Aim assist is meant to for the controller to compete with mouse and keyboard input. Since the mouse and keyboard in this game uses joystick emulation with no raw input options, there isn't any need for aim assist. Let go of your crutch because the kills you're getting in 1.4 aren't earned. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3904
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:19:00 -
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There are a few idiots on both sides.
*see video that proves aim assist is shifting a player's aim without their input*
pro-AA idiot: "he's doing that himself. You can tell by how the difference between the 'aim assist' and his 'manual' movements is so exaggerated."
anti-AA idiot: "SEE? SEEEEE!?!?!?!???!??!?!? IT MOVED BY ITSELF SO IT'S A AIMBOT!!!1!!!!eleven!"
So yes, there are some people who are massively exaggerating the problem, and who won't accept anything less than a complete removal of aim assist because they don't understand that a very limited auto-aim is actually a good thing if implemented correctly.
And yes, there are some people who completely refuse to admit that they're letting the game take a measure of control from them in spite of the evidence.
That doesn't negate the facts:
1. DUST has an auto-aim function as an optional form of aim assist. 2. Aim assist is a good thing, and even an auto-aim is good as long as it's optional. 3. The current aim assist is too strong.
Point 3 is my personal opinion, but it's an opinion shared by a lot of rational voices on these forums, and backed by most of the video evidence people have provided. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4968
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:29:00 -
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Enjoy it while you can, because your days are numbered. Link
CCP Logibro wrote:Just so you guys aren't left wondering, we are aware of the numerous complaints about the strength of aim assist. No decisions have been made yet, but we are certainly going to have another look at it.
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
413
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:33:00 -
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Yes, let's give everyone who sucks at the game a massive crutch and turn Dust into a game for people who love to ride bikes with training wheels!!
Great idea |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
37
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:14:00 -
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aim assist is a load of ****. you can kil people when they go behind cover and dont even need to scope to make good shots. it was fine befor it was ''tweaked'' |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
299
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:21:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:aim assist is a load of ****. you can kil people when they go behind cover and dont even need to scope to make good shots. it was fine befor it was ''tweaked''
Killing people behind cover isnt aim assist, thats hit detection, aim assist doesnt make your rounds Magic self correcting bullet bending, telporting rounds with a caliber of miracles, its active aim assist, you are still required to input for a target that does more than a 1m wiggle!! |
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