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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:19:00 -
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Another Amarrian sidearm, one preferably not including heat, that is Automatic would really interest me, a scout. I'm being hyper vague because I'm not sure what one should be like, but:
+No Heat
+High Damage
-Small Clip, maybe 18-25 shots
=High RoF, lower than SMG's though
+Accurate
=Pretty quick reload but it happens frequently (small clip)
The concept is that you quickly dispense a small number of high damage pulses down, quickly reload, and finish them off. A clip though should probably be able to dispense of an average tanked medium (as in maybe and enhanced and basic shield extender) though unlikely we should find an average tanked medium in this game.
The reason why I would adore this weapon is that
A) I am a scout
B) I'm a scrambler pistol enthusiast
C) Sometimes I need an SMG for the situation but with my own flavor
But make sure its accuracy is sub-Scrambler pistol. An SMG is automatic you know. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:21:00 -
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While not Amarrian, isn't that the general idea behind the Caldari Magsec SMG? |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1714
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:27:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:While not Amarrian, isn't that the general idea behind the Caldari Magsec SMG?
I have no idea
source? |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:37:00 -
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I unfortunately have none.
I only know of the Magsec SMG from people talking about it being a planned weapon along with the others (rail rifle, precision rifle, combat rifle) but if you apply the usual Caldari traits to an SMG, it would have increased range, power, and accuracy but at the cost of rate of fire and clip capacity. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
338
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:41:00 -
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I'm all for anything amarrian +1 |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:45:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I unfortunately have none.
I only know of the Magsec SMG from people talking about it being a planned weapon along with the others (rail rifle, precision rifle, combat rifle) but if you apply the usual Caldari traits to an SMG, it would have increased range, power, and accuracy but at the cost of rate of fire and clip capacity.
Well what would your idea of a no - heat Amarr SMG be? |
Tal-Rakken
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
81
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:52:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:While not Amarrian, isn't that the general idea behind the Caldari Magsec SMG? I have no idea source?
http://pastebin.com/02rXy6gR
http://dustsearch.com/thread/105597/page/1
people tear apart the eve side database all the time probasbly added and removed it from the market. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:52:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Well what would your idea of a no - heat Amarr SMG be?
That's difficult for me to say due to my unfamiliarity with Amarrian tech. The only Amarrian weapons I know of are laser based and any continuous fire laser weapon is going to have heat build up, thus failing your no-heat requirement.
The only thing that I can think of that would be suitably Amarrian while having an interesting twist is an Amarrian SMG that does have heat buildup... but no reload. In addition make it have a REALLY high RoF and ammo pool but lower damage (to even things out) so the thing is an awesome light show.
While it fails the no-heat part, it would gain an incredible perk (assuming you are good at heat management). No more pinch reloading, just wait a second to reduce the ehat guage and blow the enemy away. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1719
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Posted - 2013.09.07 02:02:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:
The only thing that I can think of that would be suitably Amarrian while having an interesting twist is an Amarrian SMG that does have heat buildup... but no reload.
Think Scrambler Pistol....think assault scrambler rifle. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.09.07 02:03:00 -
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But that's not continuous fire like an SMG.
Edit:
Continuous as in full-auto.
It is sensible for the pistol to not have a heat gauge since there is time between for the heat built up by producing the laser to dissipate. However, if you are putting out laser shots as fast as something called an SMG would, then there wouldn't enough time for the heat to dissipate, hence the heat buildup. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
527
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Posted - 2013.09.07 02:13:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:While not Amarrian, isn't that the general idea behind the Caldari Magsec SMG?
This. It's looks like a ******* mini shotty for some reason though...... |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
527
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Posted - 2013.09.07 02:14:00 -
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Your database is disgusting. I got a better one |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1719
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Posted - 2013.09.07 02:19:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:But that's not continuous fire like an SMG.
Edit:
Continuous as in full-auto.
It is sensible for the pistol to not have a heat gauge since there is time between shots and reloading because of small clip size for the heat built up by producing the laser to dissipate. However, if you are putting out laser shots as fast as something called an SMG would, then there wouldn't enough time for the heat to dissipate, hence the heat buildup.
Yeah but it's clip gets used up so fast so that doesn't happen. |
Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege
General Tso's Alliance
201
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Posted - 2013.09.07 03:51:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Well what would your idea of a no - heat Amarr SMG be? That's difficult for me to say due to my unfamiliarity with Amarrian tech. The only Amarrian weapons I know of are laser based and any continuous fire laser weapon is going to have heat build up, thus failing your no-heat requirement. The only thing that I can think of that would be suitably Amarrian while having an interesting twist is an Amarrian SMG that does have heat buildup... but no reload. In addition make it have a REALLY high RoF and ammo pool but lower damage (to even things out) so the thing is an awesome light show. While it fails the no-heat part, it would gain an incredible perk (assuming you are good at heat management). No more pinch reloading, just wait a second to reduce the ehat guage and blow the enemy away.
This, definitely this, you know your stuff
I think it should function something like this
Something Like this
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concept art |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1722
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Posted - 2013.09.07 04:11:00 -
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Oh come on, PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1473
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:10:00 -
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Would fixing the Burst scrambler pistol by giving it more capacity/ being able to shoot bursts faster/ better hipfire dispersion work? |
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