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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:08:00 -
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After reading this thread entirely I have concluded that STB is a joke. You soil the good name of SVER. That is all. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1771
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:10:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:This is a console game. Newbs and vets should be able to play on equal terms. NOOB Oh really? Look at possibly the most successful in history. CoD. Assuming that two players had the exact same gun, and the exact same perks, who would win? They made the game as newb friendly as possible, which is a note every game should capitalize on Right before now,it took AT least a week to learn just how to AIM. If you are a casual player (the guys who would be most willing to spend money to get good gear w/o such extreme time investment), would you play for a week just to learn how to AIM? At least now it only take a match or two to get the hang of how aiming works. Instead of shooting out any mechanic that brings new guys onto the lair of the vet, why not just, as all the vets say, get good? Learn how to fight it, or die.
COD has ruined a genre of gaming and using it as any form of an argument here makes me cringe.
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Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:28:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Long Evity wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Long Evity wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:*Refills popcorn, grabs a couple beers. *passes the bong* I still love that "Love Soda" song Damn, I had a feeling it might be you lol. lol Shh, I'm just a scrub whose been here for 1 month. then stop hiding behind an alt and post on your main Sorry - can't.
but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so.
Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me.
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
134
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:34:00 -
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Ugh, I feel like I may have gotten a case of the stupids just from reading the first couple of pages. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1771
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:41:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Sorry - can't. but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so. Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me.
ill be honest here, whether or not you feel it is a noob tactic to hire a mercenary, which we all are in the first place, in times of war you can have 20-30 districts on lock a day. Many smaller corps who dont have land might not realize this. Whether or not we have enough concurrent active players to defend our turf, it is convenient to hire people for help. After all, we do have alliances between corporations for a reason. People also need to realize hiring help from friends does not mean we lack the skill to fight. It would be foolish however to assume every single player in a big name corporation is a life taker and heart breaker.
Try not to hate on global lol, he is actually pretty damn good and is new to our corp, so im sure he is digging the tags. There are plenty of other people who come to these forums thinking they have weight to throw around simply because they have a shiny name. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:52:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Long Evity wrote:Sorry - can't. but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so. Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me. ill be honest here, whether or not you feel it is a noob tactic to hire a mercenary, which we all are in the first place, in times of war you can have 20-30 districts on lock a day. Many smaller corps who dont have land might not realize this. Whether or not we have enough concurrent active players to defend our turf, it is convenient to hire people for help. After all, we do have alliances between corporations for a reason. People also need to realize hiring help from friends does not mean we lack the skill to fight. It would be foolish however to assume every single player in a big name corporation is a life taker and heart breaker. Dont hate on global, he is actually pretty damn good and is new to our corp, so im sure he is digging the tags. There are plenty of other people who come to these forums thinking they have weight to throw around simply because they have a shiny name. Let me be clear. It is not a noob tactic, regardless on how it reflects on how much skill your corp has, to use another corp to win battles.
The only reason I bring it up is because your new member is flashing his tag around like it gives him the right to speak loudly and actually say if people don't have a certain experience they don't get an opinion. It's just such great material in which to show someone whose ego is over-blown over nothing how bad his opinion is.
I'm sorry if I've offended any STB. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
773
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Posted - 2013.09.07 08:06:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Long Evity wrote:Sorry - can't. but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so. Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me. ill be honest here, whether or not you feel it is a noob tactic to hire a mercenary, which we all are in the first place, in times of war you can have 20-30 districts on lock a day. Many smaller corps who dont have land might not realize this. Whether or not we have enough concurrent active players to defend our turf, it is convenient to hire people for help. After all, we do have alliances between corporations for a reason. People also need to realize hiring help from friends does not mean we lack the skill to fight. It would be foolish however to assume every single player in a big name corporation is a life taker and heart breaker. Dont hate on global, he is actually pretty damn good and is new to our corp, so im sure he is digging the tags. There are plenty of other people who come to these forums thinking they have weight to throw around simply because they have a shiny name. Let me be clear. It is not a noob tactic, regardless on how it reflects on how much skill your corp has, to use another corp to win battles. The only reason I bring it up is because your new member is flashing his tag around like it gives him the right to speak loudly and actually say if people don't have a certain experience they don't get an opinion. It's just such great material in which to show someone whose ego is over-blown over nothing how bad his opinion is. I'm sorry if I've offended any STB.
it doesn't matter how good you are if youre a jerk...this global guy is a jerk, and he's arrogant for thinking skills in a game gives him the right to dictate who should post in the forums...lets face it, this game doesn't get you any street cred or make you some kind of respected world citizen. this guy global acts like because he can play dust people should bow down to him...it makes him look pathetic, and he hurts the STB name because of it...I honestly don't care how much skill he has in this game, he has no people skills, that's more important. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1771
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Posted - 2013.09.07 08:08:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Long Evity wrote:Sorry - can't. but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so. Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me. ill be honest here, whether or not you feel it is a noob tactic to hire a mercenary, which we all are in the first place, in times of war you can have 20-30 districts on lock a day. Many smaller corps who dont have land might not realize this. Whether or not we have enough concurrent active players to defend our turf, it is convenient to hire people for help. After all, we do have alliances between corporations for a reason. People also need to realize hiring help from friends does not mean we lack the skill to fight. It would be foolish however to assume every single player in a big name corporation is a life taker and heart breaker. Dont hate on global, he is actually pretty damn good and is new to our corp, so im sure he is digging the tags. There are plenty of other people who come to these forums thinking they have weight to throw around simply because they have a shiny name. Let me be clear. It is not a noob tactic, regardless on how it reflects on how much skill your corp has, to use another corp to win battles. The only reason I bring it up is because your new member is flashing his tag around like it gives him the right to speak loudly and actually say if people don't have a certain experience they don't get an opinion. It's just such great material in which to show someone whose ego is over-blown over nothing how bad his opinion is. I'm sorry if I've offended any STB.
no offense taken and im sure Global isnt pissed at you, but the trolling, which comes with being in STB. He'll figure that out and he'll need to learn to take the inevitable trolls with a grain of salt. I am proud that a newer member thinks so highly of our tags, as I have invested a lot of myself in this corporation and it means others see worth in that. I believe it doesnt reflect negatively on a corp to use another corp, since a corporation's A, B, C, etc. teams can only be in one battle at once. Frankly, I think it speaks well of a corp to actually have diplomatic relations with others. It shows a maturity and "big league" attitude that you don't see in many smaller corporations who aren't as familiar with the way New Eden runs. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1771
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Posted - 2013.09.07 08:13:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Long Evity wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Long Evity wrote:Sorry - can't. but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so. Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me. ill be honest here, whether or not you feel it is a noob tactic to hire a mercenary, which we all are in the first place, in times of war you can have 20-30 districts on lock a day. Many smaller corps who dont have land might not realize this. Whether or not we have enough concurrent active players to defend our turf, it is convenient to hire people for help. After all, we do have alliances between corporations for a reason. People also need to realize hiring help from friends does not mean we lack the skill to fight. It would be foolish however to assume every single player in a big name corporation is a life taker and heart breaker. Dont hate on global, he is actually pretty damn good and is new to our corp, so im sure he is digging the tags. There are plenty of other people who come to these forums thinking they have weight to throw around simply because they have a shiny name. Let me be clear. It is not a noob tactic, regardless on how it reflects on how much skill your corp has, to use another corp to win battles. The only reason I bring it up is because your new member is flashing his tag around like it gives him the right to speak loudly and actually say if people don't have a certain experience they don't get an opinion. It's just such great material in which to show someone whose ego is over-blown over nothing how bad his opinion is. I'm sorry if I've offended any STB. it doesn't matter how good you are if youre a jerk...this global guy is a jerk, and he's arrogant for thinking skills in a game gives him the right to dictate who should post in the forums...lets face it, this game doesn't get you any street cred or make you some kind of respected world citizen. this guy global acts like because he can play dust people should bow down to him...it makes him look pathetic, and he hurts the STB name because of it...I honestly don't care how much skill he has in this game, he has no people skills, that's more important.
It is also a fact that because of the new aim assist, there are a lot more noobs on the forums who have an inflated sense of importance and know-how simply because they feel like they became sharpshooters overnight and are attributing their newfound prowess to nothing but their own capabilities. People skills are a must, but it is moot to say he has none when a majority of the people in this thread are shameless trolls. Where are their manners? It is annoying for a vet to suck it up and tolerate a senseless noob spouting crap when he knows he clearly knows better lol. Part of what makes a vet knowledgeable is they have seen the many changing faces of this game and seen the way they have affected gameplay. Someone who has only been here since even open beta simply does not know as much about the game as he wants to think he does.
I am not directing my comments at any particular person, just making a point. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2013.09.07 08:33:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Long Evity wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Long Evity wrote:Sorry - can't. but what I can do is say that 'real' corps can win there own battles without having to pay off better corps to do so. Not that I hate on STB - I love you guys. It's just you have one idiot using your tag as proof to how he's good - dragging you all into this. But if you want to continue where he left off it's fine by me. ill be honest here, whether or not you feel it is a noob tactic to hire a mercenary, which we all are in the first place, in times of war you can have 20-30 districts on lock a day. Many smaller corps who dont have land might not realize this. Whether or not we have enough concurrent active players to defend our turf, it is convenient to hire people for help. After all, we do have alliances between corporations for a reason. People also need to realize hiring help from friends does not mean we lack the skill to fight. It would be foolish however to assume every single player in a big name corporation is a life taker and heart breaker. Dont hate on global, he is actually pretty damn good and is new to our corp, so im sure he is digging the tags. There are plenty of other people who come to these forums thinking they have weight to throw around simply because they have a shiny name. Let me be clear. It is not a noob tactic, regardless on how it reflects on how much skill your corp has, to use another corp to win battles. The only reason I bring it up is because your new member is flashing his tag around like it gives him the right to speak loudly and actually say if people don't have a certain experience they don't get an opinion. It's just such great material in which to show someone whose ego is over-blown over nothing how bad his opinion is. I'm sorry if I've offended any STB. it doesn't matter how good you are if youre a jerk...this global guy is a jerk, and he's arrogant for thinking skills in a game gives him the right to dictate who should post in the forums...lets face it, this game doesn't get you any street cred or make you some kind of respected world citizen. this guy global acts like because he can play dust people should bow down to him...it makes him look pathetic, and he hurts the STB name because of it...I honestly don't care how much skill he has in this game, he has no people skills, that's more important. It is also a fact that because of the new aim assist, there are a lot more noobs on the forums who have an inflated sense of importance and know-how simply because they feel like they became sharpshooters overnight and are attributing their newfound prowess to nothing but their own capabilities. People skills are a must, but it is moot to say he has none when a majority of the people in this thread are shameless trolls. Where are their manners? It is annoying for a vet to suck it up and tolerate a senseless noob spouting crap when he knows he clearly knows better lol. Part of what makes a vet knowledgeable is they have seen the many changing faces of this game and seen the way they have affected gameplay. Someone who has only been here since even open beta simply does not know as much about the game as he wants to think he does. I am not directing my comments at any particular person, just making a point. your point only shows that a vet can make an assumptions more accurately then a noob can. The changes are what the mechanics are modernly - which anyone can understand within a small time-frame with a little effort. Knowing CCP nerf hammers everything without listening to the community does no one any good. Largely - CCP ignores us anyways and does whatever there pub data tells them. Thus we got Uprising.
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1772
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Posted - 2013.09.07 08:43:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:your point only shows that a vet can make an assumptions more accurately then a noob can. The changes are what the mechanics are modernly - which anyone can understand within a small time-frame with a little effort. Knowing CCP nerf hammers everything without listening to the community does no one any good. Largely - CCP ignores us anyways and does whatever there pub data tells them. Thus we got Uprising.
You see, this goes to prove my point. I know for a fact CCP doesn't ignore us. Back in closed beta, they were planning on having way more content in the game earlier on but we wouldnt have had corporations, corp battles/PC, or other stuff. We told them they would be crazy to launch without corporations so they put their plans aside and instead gave us what we thought the game needed. A newer player would not know this because they would not have been there. In addition, many players demand changes to the game that we have actually had in the past, which have been changed because they didnt work, e.g. direct fire on swarms and an hmg having the same damage per bullet as an AR.
It isnt that a vet thinks he/she knows more because they have more sp or they have been playing longer, its because we have seen all the mistakes, changes, and ideas that CCP has put out there build after build and we have learned right along with CCP what does and doesn't mesh with their ideas for Dust.
On the flip side, there are many "vets"who think they know better simply because they have a large amount of sp or they are on the bandwagon with a shiny corp tag and think they are important and carry weight through association. I think this is what your problem was with global, and all i have to say about that is after playing with him, he isnt simply a guy who an point a gun. He has pproven to me has has an above average understanding of FPS mechanics and speaks with a sincere intent of helping this game, which right or wrong, is all you can ask for on a public forum where everyone has a a valid opinion. Well, except for noobs.
edit: just because you are a vet doesnt mean your opinion is correct btw.....being a vet DOES lessen the amount of bad ideas tho lol. an 11 year old COD fanatic could have been here since E3, but that doesnt make him more knowledgeable than a newb, it just makes him a 12 year old COD fanatic. |
Jinx Rollin
Commando Perkone Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:16:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:This aim bit don't stop me from killing the **** out of ppl like you as i dont need aim assist as it's off but it needs fixing and ppl like yourself don't deserve the right to create threads
Come back and tell us how 'gud u r' when your kd is over 2.26 |
Jinx Rollin
Commando Perkone Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:19:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:
You see, this goes to prove my point. I know for a fact CCP doesn't ignore us. Back in closed beta, they were planning on having way more content in the game earlier on but we wouldnt have had corporations, corp battles/PC, or other stuff. We told them they would be crazy to launch without corporations so they put their plans aside and instead gave us what we thought the game needed. A newer player would not know this because they would not have been there. In addition, many players demand changes to the game that we have actually had in the past, which have been changed because they didnt work, e.g. direct fire on swarms and an hmg having the same damage per bullet as an AR.
It isnt that a vet thinks he/she knows more because they have more sp or they have been playing longer, its because we have seen all the mistakes, changes, and ideas that CCP has put out there build after build and we have learned right along with CCP what does and doesn't mesh with their ideas for Dust.
On the flip side, there are many "vets"who think they know better simply because they have a large amount of sp or they are on the bandwagon with a shiny corp tag and think they are important and carry weight through association. I think this is what your problem was with global, and all i have to say about that is after playing with him, he isnt simply a guy who an point a gun. He has pproven to me has has an above average understanding of FPS mechanics and speaks with a sincere intent of helping this game, which right or wrong, is all you can ask for on a public forum where everyone has a a valid opinion. Well, except for noobs.
edit: just because you are a vet doesnt mean your opinion is correct btw.....being a vet DOES lessen the amount of bad ideas tho lol. an 11 year old COD fanatic could have been here since E3, but that doesnt make him more knowledgeable than a newb, it just makes him a 12 year old COD fanatic.
^^ truth. +1
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1772
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:20:00 -
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Jinx Rollin wrote:Global Enforcer wrote:This aim bit don't stop me from killing the **** out of ppl like you as i dont need aim assist as it's off but it needs fixing and ppl like yourself don't deserve the right to create threads Come back and tell us how 'gud u r' when your kd is over 2.26
KD is a useless stat in this game. For the longest time kills in skirmish were not recorded unless you actually cloned the enemy team. Any great player can have his KD demolished if his deaths are the only things being recorded round after round, especially if you are like me and specifically only play skirmish unless the squad drags me elsewhere.
Would be a nice troll if the game wasnt so broken. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
326
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:23:00 -
[105] - Quote
Aww you died? Respawn and try again. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1773
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:30:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Aww you died? Respawn and try again.
global regularly goes 25/0-3 |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
33
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:39:00 -
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At least you got my back bro as you seen me In action |
pyramidhead 420
89th Infantry Division
30
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Posted - 2013.09.07 12:37:00 -
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this kid is so mad, he had to go get the true forum nerd king, luca, to fight his battle. go get the rest of the crybabies while your at it. wheres example core and the legend? this thread needs a wet floor sign |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
33
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Posted - 2013.09.07 12:50:00 -
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Kid? Wrong , mad ? Wrong maybe you should check your facts |
pyramidhead 420
89th Infantry Division
30
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:28:00 -
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whatever you say junior |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
989
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:39:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:Kid? Wrong , mad ? Wrong maybe you should check your facts
Dust is the only FPS game you've played? If your good, than AA should be making you even better. So if that's the case, what are you complaining of?
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Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
34
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:15:00 -
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Because it's too high it just needs balancing |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1783
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:38:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:*Refills popcorn, grabs a couple beers. *passes the bong* I still love that "Love Soda" song
completely off topic.......if your down to squad in a couple days......ill be grabbing myself a qp.... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1783
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:40:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:this kid is so mad, he had to go get the true forum nerd king, luca, to fight his battle. go get the rest of the crybabies while your at it. wheres example core and the legend? this thread needs a wet floor sign
my name is lurch.
mine is SOOOOOO much bigger than yours dude. do you even lift? |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
616
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:09:00 -
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You're sounding like those Battlefa44ots.
Also, I disagree. We NEED noobs to keep this game alive. CCP doesn't balance their changes based on things noobs say; they balance it on the data provided.
CTFD and play the game, boss. Did you ever consider taking one of the newberries under your wing and teaching them about the game? I do that to at least 1 newberry a day and that is one player who won't quit. That is one player who won't think everything is OP because I showed him what makes HIS weapon OP.
I'm making this game better; what have you done, today? |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
277
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:13:00 -
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Petition to not allow H.I.T.L.E.R. to create threads. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1785
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:20:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:You're sounding like those Battlefa44ots.
Also, I disagree. We NEED noobs to keep this game alive. CCP doesn't balance their changes based on things noobs say; they balance it on the data provided.
CTFD and play the game, boss. Did you ever consider taking one of the newberries under your wing and teaching them about the game? I do that to at least 1 newberry a day and that is one player who won't quit. That is one player who won't think everything is OP because I showed him what makes HIS weapon OP.
I'm making this game better; what have you done, today?
i take a very active role in training newbs in STB's organization. |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
35
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:34:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Petition to not allow H.I.T.L.E.R. to create threads. I was under the impression he was dead, is this another noob troll ? I think so |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
35
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:35:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:You're sounding like those Battlefa44ots.
Also, I disagree. We NEED noobs to keep this game alive. CCP doesn't balance their changes based on things noobs say; they balance it on the data provided.
CTFD and play the game, boss. Did you ever consider taking one of the newberries under your wing and teaching them about the game? I do that to at least 1 newberry a day and that is one player who won't quit. That is one player who won't think everything is OP because I showed him what makes HIS weapon OP.
I'm making this game better; what have you done, today? I brung another recruit into STB and help out alliance members with fittings |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
36
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:40:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Global Enforcer wrote:Kid? Wrong , mad ? Wrong maybe you should check your facts Dust is the only FPS game you've played? If your good, than AA should be making you even better. So if that's the case, what are you complaining of? And FYI iv play counter-strike, halo, every cod, every battlefield, mag, payday I could name hell of alot more fps iv played and tbh dust is on par to being one of the best iv played but as always it has things that need to be ironed out and by noob gamers making posts about this and that being op does not make the devs job any easier when clearly they don't fully understand what they are talking About |
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