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Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:58:00 -
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even though i can now aim my shotgun better - it is only how you see it, the ACTUAL shotgun still lags behind by half a second.
so if you aim TOO QUICKLY your fire will miss the target
does it sound ridiculous?
i am punished for BEING TOO GOOD
also GJ CCP for faking a fix
also where is your QA?
are they all getting fired? |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1355
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:00:00 -
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Stop trolling. |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:00:00 -
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if i move ontop of enemy uplink (and have dead on aiming), if i fire TOO QUICKLY, the hit will not register
if i aim too quickly at enemy (such as close range battle dances) even my aim is dead on the hit still misses
what the hack |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:01:00 -
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good players beware - do not aim too quickly
you will be punished for your skills |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
18
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:05:00 -
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The problem is not lag its a glitch the results in your shots going off at a 45 degree angle when strafing hard or turning hard. the gun fires on time but the shot goes off in some different direction than were your aiming.
think of it like the small missile turret glitch only for shotgun pellets. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3737
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:08:00 -
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What do you mean by "too quickly"?
It doesn't actually explain anything in the context you're trying to use it. Describe what you're doing that doesn't work, and how you're solving the issue. |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:08:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:The problem is not lag its a glitch the results in your shots going off at a 45 degree angle when strafing hard or turning hard. the gun fires on time but the shot goes off in some different direction than were your aiming.
think of it like the small missile turret glitch only for shotgun pellets.
i dont understand
i dont understand HOW THIS COULD EVEN HAPPEN
WHAT HOW WHY |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
19
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:09:00 -
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Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:The problem is not lag its a glitch the results in your shots going off at a 45 degree angle when strafing hard or turning hard. the gun fires on time but the shot goes off in some different direction than were your aiming.
think of it like the small missile turret glitch only for shotgun pellets. i dont understand i dont understand HOW THIS COULD EVEN HAPPEN WHAT HOW WHY
I don't know but I tested it for several rounds just shooting walls and seeing where the shots landed and they were always 45 degrees off my aim point when turning hard or strafing. |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:11:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:What do you mean by "too quickly"?
It doesn't actually explain anything in the context you're trying to use it. Describe what you're doing that doesn't work, and how you're solving the issue.
turning your aim to aim at an enemy - aims perfectly - fire when crosshair meets enemy - hit misses
turning your aim to aim at an enemy uplink - aims perfectly - fire when crosshair meets enemy - hit misses
but if you wait half a second (IF YOU ARE NOT ALREAEDY DEAD) aiming STILL before firing, the shot would be registered (mostly)
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3740
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:17:00 -
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Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:What do you mean by "too quickly"?
It doesn't actually explain anything in the context you're trying to use it. Describe what you're doing that doesn't work, and how you're solving the issue. turning your aim to aim at an enemy - aims perfectly - fire when crosshair meets enemy - hit misses turning your aim to aim at an enemy uplink - aims perfectly - fire when crosshair meets enemy - hit misses but if you wait half a second (IF YOU ARE NOT ALREAEDY DEAD) aiming STILL before firing, the shot would be registered (mostly)
Is your aim assist turned on or off when this happens?
I don't think it's meant to affect Shotguns, but that never stopped it from breaking things in 1.3 while there was no aim assist and the setting "did nothing".
Mine is off, and I haven't noticed this when doing exactly what you described as a problem. So maybe it's intermittent (which also happens), maybe it's a settings problem, and maybe it's something else.
EDIT: I wasn't actively trying to test this at the time, so I will do what I can to test it for myself before ruling it out as a general problem. Most of my targets have been relatively close to my line of fire, so I haven't been high-speed spinning very often while firing. |
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Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:19:00 -
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my aim assist is turned off
but i am using a mouse (so aiming assist shouldn't be the problem - i assume) |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:20:00 -
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i do a lot of "twitch firing" in close combat, if you want to know my play style |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
21
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:21:00 -
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I get more in depth in explaning the glitch hearhttps://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1260825#post1260825 |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:23:00 -
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there is nothing more fustrating than aiming enemy in the FACE and shot him before he could shoot me and the hit didnt even register and then getting killed
he was WALKING BACKWARDS and my aim was PERFECT there was no question about the aim, the enemy upper torse was FILLING the crosshair circle |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:23:00 -
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this should be relevant, thanks |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3742
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:24:00 -
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In THAT case, Yoma, are you playing with Sixaxis, move or KB/M? Might help us identify the root cause... |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
21
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:25:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:In THAT case, Yoma, are you playing with Sixaxis, move or KB/M? Might help us identify the root cause...
I play with DS3 but if someone would test this with the KB/M I would love the hear the results. |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:27:00 -
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how could this even happen in the first place
i wonder if the aiming mechanism is PILED with layers and layers of redundent and useless modifiers CCP couldnt even tell if something hidden is affecting aiming |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3745
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:30:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:In THAT case, Yoma, are you playing with Sixaxis, move or KB/M? Might help us identify the root cause... I play with DS3 but if someone would test this with the KB/M I would love the hear the results.
I won't get a chance until tomorrow, but I'll test in DS3 myself, with aim assist on AND off, and if I can swing it, I'll try and get my KB/M hooked up, depending on time.
My current impression is that with AA turned off, I haven't seen the results you've described. But as I mentioned, I wasn't specifically testing for it, so I may have missed a moment where this did happen. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
945
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:52:00 -
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Running DS3, 100/100 sensitivity, aim-assist on.
Hipfiring at moving targets.
Quickscoping for heads of stationary targets.
Tested a variety of shotguns, standard to proto.
For the first time since Chromosome, I'm landing more shots than I miss. |
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