DUST Search - Increasing Planet Variety in Molden Heath

Vell0cet wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

I still feel this would be one of the most important ways to add uniqueness to DUST and set it apart from other shooters. Gravity, planet types, etc. need to be varied!

And they will be. But they have a very long ways to go yet.

First they need to get temperate/barren gameplay up to par, which includes all racial dropsuits, all missing racial vehicles, all missing vehicle and suit roles (Fighters, MAVs, speeders, etc), all of the major racial structures/complexes, vegitation implemented, water implemented and balanced with how it will affect vehicles and dropsuits. They need to design, build, implement and balance some form of PvE. CCP also has to add all of the interactions with EVE and balance that out such as unifying the market between games. Also they need to be porting this game to the PS4.

Once all that stuff is done, then I can see CCP starting to expand to other planet types, and possibly fighting on ships or structures in space. That stuff will be so incredible, and it will solidify DUST as the best FPS ever made, but we're a LONG way from that point right now.


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Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 526	Posted - 2013.09.05 22:47:00 - [1] - Quote A document I've been putting together. Comments here or on the document will be looked at, and possibly factored into the design. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dHnJW69fNZImNynEQJR7kIQetLpLtOa5xkihcRAp7WY Most of what's on the first page should be FAIRLY easy to accomplish with moods as they exist in the game now, with tweaks for some of the environmental changes effects on gameplay.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 531	Posted - 2013.09.06 02:36:00 - [2] - Quote Bump for night crowd and hopefully CCP LogicLoop. ;)
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 596	Posted - 2013.09.19 12:48:00 - [3] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: How about more planets outside of molden heath??? One line of code that seems to be all they said it takes (and they know what it is) and how long before the rest of the planets open up? That doesn't add much of interest to the game. Just more of the same.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 616	Posted - 2013.09.25 15:05:00 - [4] - Quote I still feel this would be one of the most important ways to add uniqueness to DUST and set it apart from other shooters. Gravity, planet types, etc. need to be varied!
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 621	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:19:00 - [5] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I still feel this would be one of the most important ways to add uniqueness to DUST and set it apart from other shooters. Gravity, planet types, etc. need to be varied! And they will be. But they have a very long ways to go yet. First they need to get temperate/barren gameplay up to par, which includes all racial dropsuits, all missing racial vehicles, all missing vehicle and suit roles (Fighters, MAVs, speeders, etc), all of the major racial structures/complexes, vegitation implemented, water implemented and balanced with how it will affect vehicles and dropsuits. They need to design, build, implement and balance some form of PvE. CCP also has to add all of the interactions with EVE and balance that out such as unifying the market between games. Also they need to be porting this game to the PS4. Once all that stuff is done, then I can see CCP starting to expand to other planet types, and possibly fighting on ships or structures in space. That stuff will be so incredible, and it will solidify DUST as the best FPS ever made, but we're a LONG way from that point right now. I'd argue doing the contents of this document is more important and higher priority than anything and everything you listed. My document also takes a lot less development time. CCP needs to capitalize on what makes their game unique NOW. And planet variety will actually help with the balance issue. Because certain suits, sure, may be overpowered on a certain planet, but heavily underpowered on another planet. That sort of design needs to be put in now, so that future developments are balanced around that. Vegetation and water is nice, but a lot of work, and only really affecting temperate planets and oceanic planets down the road. Barren, ice, and lava planets could all be done with existing tech, and wouldn't use those features at all. We can always add more terrains and sockets, but that is a lot of dev work to add only some enhanced variety. Adding the dimension of different planet types adds to and enhances the gameplay variety across ALL terrains and ALL sockets simultaneously, while still being a far smaller development effort. Also, PvE will never be important on the manner that's worth delaying things that affect PvP. New Eden is for PvP.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 621	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:31:00 - [6] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: DUST needs to hit the point where it is a solid game with the foundation in place on terrestrial and barren planets so reviewers and new players can download it and feel like they're playing a polished FPS that isn't missing core content. If it can hit this point it will begin to build traction in the market and will be able to sustain itself and future development. The stuff you want is very cool, but it will have to wait for future expansions. The game is very solid, the problem is that it is not unique. CCP can't match a game with ten times the budget in terms of "being a better shooter". But it can be a more unique shooter. If CCP doesn't focus in this direction, it'll never get future expansions. It's core content is the variety it can provide that other FPSes can't. No arguments on economy. But economy... is PvP.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 621	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:32:00 - [7] - Quote Dirks Macker wrote: I'd rather they expand DUST to 2-3 more low sec regions or constellations elsewhere in New Eden. 500 identical districts will provide no better gameplay than 250 identical districts do now.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 626	Posted - 2013.09.25 18:44:00 - [8] - Quote Vell0cet, that's not enough. Skill system is meh, it's more of a gate to prevent newer players from doing what they want. Because after a year or two, you can do whatever you want anyways. Customizable suits and vehicles only get you so far when the gameplay is so predictable.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 627	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:52:00 - [9] - Quote My point is, the depth of the skill system isn't a draw to the game, because it's a way of gating people off from content. In competing games, players can use whatever they want much sooner. So it's not a player draw, unless you're an MMO junkie. As I noted in my document, planet variety will actually provide a BETTER foundation for gameplay variety to expand. Additional vehicles included. I noted it would be possibly worthwhile for LAVs to have worse traction on ice planets, but there could also be a treaded variant of LAV that would handle differently.