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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:42:00 -
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Might as well cut this to it's own thread instead of hiding within a very long one.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1263974#post1263974
CCP LogicLoop wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:1.7...? Thats something like October.. I take it we're sticking with the six month expansion plan.. Bear in mind we have one team that does these outposts. Team Knee 101 right now is that team. It only consists of two level designers, and the environment artists in that team need all of them on one SI at a time. From an art standpoint, it takes about 2 or 3 months to get them fully art treated and optimized. That's including all t he supporting sockets that go with an SI. This isn't a task that can be done over night by a single team. CCP LogicLoop, this sort of came up in another thread but I wonder if you have any comment on it. I understand you are a small team, but if it really does take 3 months get a new outpost out as you said and as is evident with the Research Lab coming in 1.4 and the Production Facility in 1.7, then how long is it going to take to get all the racial outposts out. I mean, just look at how big the list is, Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente Orbital Artillery Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente Biomass Amarr, Minmatar, and Caldari Communications Amarr, Minmatar, and Caldari Research Lab Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente Production Facility Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, and Caldari Cargo Hub That is 19 more outposts that still need to be released. That will take 4 years 9 months if you release one every 3 months, that is May 2018. That is a bit unrealistic, don't you think? Even if you get them out every 2 months, that still becomes 3 years 2 months, that's October 2016. Of course I don't want to rush the development, but is there some plan of action that's been discussed? Perhaps getting more people on the team or something? Or is the sad truth that will will not be getting a racial outpost for each outpost type :( I have been on and off searching for this post the past few days to reply. Sorry for the delay. I just could not remember what thread it was in. I really have no comment on to how long this will take in the long run. However now that we have our "methods" down, and begin to build more assets that can be reused, and another level designer designing outposts the process will be speeding up a bit. The real time sink is in the art process. Not to imply at all that our artists are slow. But it does take a lot to make these things as gorgeous as they are.
First off, thank you LogicLoop for the reply! Onto the point, I would say that though we all of course want all the SI sets as soon as possible, do not feel rushed at all. If you guys are confident that Dust is going to last at least 10 years like EVE then even this long time frame I put out wouldn't be that big a deal in the long run. Now of course, if you can speed it up without reducing the quality then by all means! But the new Research Lab outpost is very gorgeous indeed, and if they all can be at least this quality from here on out then I don't think anyone will complain! |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P
C C P Alliance
740
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:19:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Might as well cut this to it's own thread instead of hiding within a very long one. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1263974#post1263974CCP LogicLoop wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:1.7...? Thats something like October.. I take it we're sticking with the six month expansion plan.. Bear in mind we have one team that does these outposts. Team Knee 101 right now is that team. It only consists of two level designers, and the environment artists in that team need all of them on one SI at a time. From an art standpoint, it takes about 2 or 3 months to get them fully art treated and optimized. That's including all t he supporting sockets that go with an SI. This isn't a task that can be done over night by a single team. CCP LogicLoop, this sort of came up in another thread but I wonder if you have any comment on it. I understand you are a small team, but if it really does take 3 months get a new outpost out as you said and as is evident with the Research Lab coming in 1.4 and the Production Facility in 1.7, then how long is it going to take to get all the racial outposts out. I mean, just look at how big the list is, Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente Orbital Artillery Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente Biomass Amarr, Minmatar, and Caldari Communications Amarr, Minmatar, and Caldari Research Lab Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente Production Facility Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, and Caldari Cargo Hub That is 19 more outposts that still need to be released. That will take 4 years 9 months if you release one every 3 months, that is May 2018. That is a bit unrealistic, don't you think? Even if you get them out every 2 months, that still becomes 3 years 2 months, that's October 2016. Of course I don't want to rush the development, but is there some plan of action that's been discussed? Perhaps getting more people on the team or something? Or is the sad truth that will will not be getting a racial outpost for each outpost type :( I have been on and off searching for this post the past few days to reply. Sorry for the delay. I just could not remember what thread it was in. I really have no comment on to how long this will take in the long run. However now that we have our "methods" down, and begin to build more assets that can be reused, and another level designer designing outposts the process will be speeding up a bit. The real time sink is in the art process. Not to imply at all that our artists are slow. But it does take a lot to make these things as gorgeous as they are. First off, thank you LogicLoop for the reply! Onto the point, I would say that though we all of course want all the SI sets as soon as possible, do not feel rushed at all. If you guys are confident that Dust is going to last at least 10 years like EVE then even this long time frame I put out wouldn't be that big a deal in the long run. Now of course, if you can speed it up without reducing the quality then by all means! But the new Research Lab outpost is very gorgeous indeed, and if they all can be at least this quality from here on out then I don't think anyone will complain!
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2272
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:31:00 -
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That whole thread has interesting comments by LogicLoop though, but most of his threads give a lot of information. He's quite forthcoming. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
259
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:48:00 -
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I don't really see a problem with the extended timeframe. CCP plans for "the long haul," and as such, I'd expect that sort time timetable. However, I'm sure we'll see a bump at Fanfests or during summer/winter expansions if they begin such a cycle. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
212
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:53:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:That whole thread has interesting comments by LogicLoop though, but most of his threads give a lot of information. He's quite forthcoming.
yeah, wont be long until Legal and HR will need to have a "Talk" with him .... |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P
C C P Alliance
745
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:55:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:That whole thread has interesting comments by LogicLoop though, but most of his threads give a lot of information. He's quite forthcoming. yeah, wont be long until Legal and HR will need to have a "Talk" with him ....
Trying to jinx me?  |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1533
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Posted - 2013.09.05 07:13:00 -
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Hey LogicLoop, while we're on the discussion on the future of SI sets could you give us a heads-up when you get assigned the next one after Minmatar Cargo Hub? |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P
C C P Alliance
747
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Posted - 2013.09.05 07:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Hey LogicLoop, while we're on the discussion on the future of SI sets could you give us a heads-up when you get assigned the next one after Minmatar Cargo Hub?
If I am allowed to do so, I of course will. Mind you CCP Tigris is on the Cargo Hub. Im still mildly supporting the Production Facility as it goes through the environment artists. |
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Daalzebul Del'Armgo
D3LTA FORC3
Inver Brass
85
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Posted - 2013.09.05 08:03:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:G Torq wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:That whole thread has interesting comments by LogicLoop though, but most of his threads give a lot of information. He's quite forthcoming. yeah, wont be long until Legal and HR will need to have a "Talk" with him .... Trying to jinx me?
Cool shirt shirt logic. I like how the little red dots move around on it. |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P
C C P Alliance
748
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Posted - 2013.09.05 08:26:00 -
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Daalzebul Del'Armgo wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:G Torq wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:That whole thread has interesting comments by LogicLoop though, but most of his threads give a lot of information. He's quite forthcoming. yeah, wont be long until Legal and HR will need to have a "Talk" with him .... Trying to jinx me? Cool shirt shirt logic. I like how the little red dots move around on it.
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1676
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Posted - 2013.09.05 09:44:00 -
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You guys should run a kickstarter to get more money for more artist, or let us the community make you some levels? hmmmmm? Put out the concept art let u have a crack at it, don't promise anything but don't be surprised by the work fans will do for free. Some of work at very serious AAA game companies... >.>
But more seriously I hope they outsource some of the art the same way eve online does it. I understand that would require more players playing dust. Please at least get us oe of each race guys like super focus on that once you have a map for each building type. Or something. This is eve online not caldari online : ( |
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