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Foxbat 072
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:00:00 -
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Looks like I have no choice but to enter the bland world of AR. Scouts are done, at least for now. The new aim "assist" makes scouts nearly useless, even in CQC. I disagree with aim assist, but I understand CCP is trying to balance ds3 and kb/m, which is fine. Unfortunately this isn't balance. What CCP needs to do is rework aim "assist" to just assist rather than do all the work. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3058
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:08:00 -
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Y'know, you could always try not charging into a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. New scan mechanics favor the lone wolf scout. Be sneaky. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1624
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:09:00 -
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Strange - I'm speccing into scouts due to the lack of team intel sharing, and it is working for me pretty well... |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1624
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:10:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Y'know, you could always try not charging into a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. New scan mechanics favor the lone wolf scout. Be sneaky.
But he plays a scout like its an assault; he probably played logi like it was an assault too, before it was changed to match it's intended goal... |
General Regret
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
21
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:11:00 -
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Aim assist is OP in cqc especially hip fire, you just can't miss a quick and nimble a scout anymore. With that said the improved hit detection is alittle too good and probably needs toning down abit, if thats even possible. I can only see one outcome the be all and end all for scouts. For far too long they have suffered and it doesn't seem like ending |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
405
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:11:00 -
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I don't understand the need to use a KB/M on a PS3. DS3 should be standard for everyone and people who suck at it can learn to cope with it instead of being coddled like a little baby with their binky. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
95
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:24:00 -
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LOL at charging a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. I see versions of that phrase everywhere and wonder if you A-holes just assume everyone else who plays video games is mentally challenged with the IQ of a rock. A lot of us have been playing scout for quite a while, we know that we have no health. It would help a lot if after running ALL the way around the map, to get behind the main line, we had a weapon that could harm you in some way. Shotgun? Knives? Neither hit. Sniper? Please, with at most 3 damage mods and terrible fitting restrictions, this is better left to the popular suits.
The problem is that medium suits can do a scouts job better. Run faster, have better profile dampening, and equip a better weapon all at the same time.
So, if we get a little bittchy, throw a bit of a fit, when yet another update has dug us even further into the ground, and all you can add is "don't die," please, do us all a favor and STFU. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1660
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:26:00 -
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oh god you again scouts are fine shut your face |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1072
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:26:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:LOL at charging a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. I see versions of that phrase everywhere and wonder if you A-holes just assume everyone else who plays video games is mentally challenged with the IQ of a rock. A lot of us have been playing scout for quite a while, we know that we have no health. It would help a lot if after running ALL the way around the map, to get behind the main line, we had a weapon that could harm you in some way. Shotgun? Knives? Neither hit. Sniper? Please, with at most 3 damage mods and terrible fitting restrictions, this is better left to the popular suits.
The problem is that medium suits can do a scouts job better. Run faster, have better profile dampening, and equip a better weapon all at the same time.
So, if we get a little bittchy, throw a bit of a fit, when yet another update has dug us even further into the ground, and all you can add is "don't die," please, do us all a favor and STFU. tellem!! |
Foxbat 072
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:29:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Y'know, you could always try not charging into a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. New scan mechanics favor the lone wolf scout. Be sneaky. But he plays a scout like its an assault; he probably played logi like it was an assault too, before it was changed to match it's intended goal...
That's cute. You should try putting that AR down and sneak up on someone with a shotgun. Not just any shotgun, but a CCP shotgun that shoots butterflies and pixie dust |
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Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
335
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:32:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:I don't understand the need to use a KB/M on a PS3. DS3 should be standard for everyone and people who suck at it can learn to cope with it instead of being coddled like a little baby with their binky.
Then you don't understand shooters. KB/M over a controller anyday. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3066
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:53:00 -
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Foxbat 072 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Y'know, you could always try not charging into a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. New scan mechanics favor the lone wolf scout. Be sneaky. But he plays a scout like its an assault; he probably played logi like it was an assault too, before it was changed to match it's intended goal... That's cute. You should try putting that AR down and sneak up on someone with a shotgun. Not just any shotgun, but a CCP shotgun that shoots butterflies and pixie dust Shotty is getting fixed next downtime. |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
933
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:57:00 -
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I feel your pain bro. Never before have I been so tempted to stray from the righteous scout ways and succumb to the evil that is the medium AR. Rust help us all, 1.4 will be a tough build for us. |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
17
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:05:00 -
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I run shotgun scout with no shields or armor and three complex damage mods. I run circles around control points and blast people who can't see me. The aim assist has helped them a bit but as long as there is ample cover, my glorious speed protects me. Yes I die. But not as much as the people looking down the business end of my shotgun. Even with the current shotgun hit detection ridiculousness I do just fine. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1664
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:17:00 -
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shotguns do not use any aim assist the devs already went over this |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3989
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:21:00 -
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Damn, and here we are thinking that vehicle pilots have it bad. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
985
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:22:00 -
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To be fair gents, scan mechanics ARE a buff to scouts. HOWEVER, the secondary effect of removal of turn speed cap combined with new aim assist is a huge nerf to scouts. Seriously I'm loving my brick-tank Cal Logi now so this is not a QQ, just a fact. HTFU is understood, but "scouts KDR just got hit hard" is just a fact. |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
17
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:22:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:shotguns do not use any aim assist the devs already went over this
I was talking about the hit detection issue not aim assist. ( if you we're referring to my post) http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyBKrJASro&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVTyBKrJASro. That video is example. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3989
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:22:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:LOL at charging a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. I see versions of that phrase everywhere and wonder if you A-holes just assume everyone else who plays video games is mentally challenged with the IQ of a rock. A lot of us have been playing scout for quite a while, we know that we have no health. It would help a lot if after running ALL the way around the map, to get behind the main line, we had a weapon that could harm you in some way. Shotgun? Knives? Neither hit. Sniper? Please, with at most 3 damage mods and terrible fitting restrictions, this is better left to the popular suits.
The problem is that medium suits can do a scouts job better. Run faster, have better profile dampening, and equip a better weapon all at the same time.
So, if we get a little bittchy, throw a bit of a fit, when yet another update has dug us even further into the ground, and all you can add is "don't die," please, do us all a favor and STFU.
*high five* |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
483
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:41:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Foxbat 072 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Y'know, you could always try not charging into a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. New scan mechanics favor the lone wolf scout. Be sneaky. But he plays a scout like its an assault; he probably played logi like it was an assault too, before it was changed to match it's intended goal... That's cute. You should try putting that AR down and sneak up on someone with a shotgun. Not just any shotgun, but a CCP shotgun that shoots butterflies and pixie dust Shotty is getting fixed next downtime.
They've said they would fix the shotty several times. It's only gotten worse and worse. I've actually fired all 8 rounds into a hiding sniper at point blank, and no damage. I just pulled out my SMG and then killed him. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
483
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:43:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Damn, and here we are thinking that vehicle pilots have it bad.
Well, many pilots I know (including me) uses light frames, so many of us have it doubly bad |
Brynjar Reko
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
9
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:48:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:I feel your pain bro. Never before have I been so tempted to stray from the righteous scout ways and succumb to the evil that is the medium AR. Rust help us all, 1.4 will be a tough build for us.
I have been reading threads all day that assume far too much about play styles, and commit the sin of willful ignorance in numbers unseen out of politics, but then I saw your post, and it for a moment made me feel that someday my shotgun scout will shine true.
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BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
406
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:10:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:BARDAS wrote:I don't understand the need to use a KB/M on a PS3. DS3 should be standard for everyone and people who suck at it can learn to cope with it instead of being coddled like a little baby with their binky. Then you don't understand shooters. KB/M over a controller anyday.
On a PC I would agree with you, but this game isn't being marketed as a PC game now is it? Look I love a good PC FPS as much as anyone else, I played Counter Strike: Source for years and a bit of Counter Strike: GO so believe me I know what a FPS game on a PC is about. That shouldn't be the case on a console.
EDIT: Especially, since it creates such an inequality among players. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3099
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:12:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Foxbat 072 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Y'know, you could always try not charging into a wall of gunfire in a paper mache suit. New scan mechanics favor the lone wolf scout. Be sneaky. But he plays a scout like its an assault; he probably played logi like it was an assault too, before it was changed to match it's intended goal... That's cute. You should try putting that AR down and sneak up on someone with a shotgun. Not just any shotgun, but a CCP shotgun that shoots butterflies and pixie dust Shotty is getting fixed next downtime. They've said they would fix the shotty several times. It's only gotten worse and worse. I've actually fired all 8 rounds into a hiding sniper at point blank, and no damage. I just pulled out my SMG and then killed him. That's cool.
Shotty fix confirmed for downtime 9/5/2013. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
165
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:26:00 -
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Foxbat 072 wrote:Looks like I have no choice but to enter the bland world of AR. Scouts are done, at least for now. The new aim "assist" makes scouts nearly useless, even in CQC. I disagree with aim assist, but I understand CCP is trying to balance ds3 and kb/m, which is fine. Unfortunately this isn't balance. What CCP needs to do is rework aim "assist" to just assist rather than do all the work. thought this would be about the active scanner ruining you sneakiness. because now you all light up like chrismas trees. LITERALLY!
but yup scouts are are done and........
The scouts are a dieing race. They're strengths will only strengthen the logi. Join us or perish. resistance is futile.
......... foxbat 072 was at least smart enough to abandon the scouts' before the great scout massacres take place. |
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