DUST Search - Scan Profile Question

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Repe Susi wrote:

Lt Royal wrote:

IGÇÖm pretty sure scan profiles showing up on the minimap is when people sprint; sprinting with make you pop up on there and having a lower profile reduces you popping up when sprinting.

I haven't got a thread post link about it; as I really can't be bothered to go look for at right now....

CCP has confirmed that scan profile is static. No action of any kind changes your scan profile. Running, firing etc. does not affect your scan profile.

At the time when CCP were confirming that, player testing confirmed that firing most weapons raised your profile. CCP have also confirmed there's a modifier on the Active Scanner that makes you more visible when activating it.

Sprinting definitely didn't increase your profile in the early days of Uprising, but firing a weapon did. Different weapons raised your profile by different amounts. I haven't tested it since then, or spoken to anyone who has, but at the time, the testing was verified by multiple sources.


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Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1660	Posted - 2013.09.04 21:47:00 - [1] - Quote Profile and Precision seem to be fluid, but to what degree? What I mean is that when a scout (profile 45 db) walks into scan range of medium (precision of like 50). When does the scout become visible on radar? Where? I've had a heavy go completely undetected until he was 1 meter behind me, for example. They have a profile up the roof, so there must have been a weak area on my radar (behind me). Is that so? Are there areas of radar where margin of error is raised? Another example is today I sat hiding behind a crate after hacking an objective. A couple guys spawned in an uplink in the next room, I could tell because they showed up on my radar but not the Uplink but I heard uplink noise. Anyways he busts into the room and knew exactly where I was, when there were many identical hiding spots throughout the room. There was no hesitation when he entered the room. Now granted he could've had Precision module, I doubt it. It's well known that scouts, although having a profile below many merc's precision can be detected regardless though much harder. I want to know is what scan profile vs. precision difference does it take to be absolutely undetected? I also wonder if profile has a relation to the range of detection. For example, scout goes through a scanning circle of precision 50. At max range they would be undetected, I suppose, but at what encroaching range does said scout get picked up? A lot of questions with answers that need thorough testing and information from where I can't find.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1663	Posted - 2013.09.04 21:54:00 - [2] - Quote I believe also that Profile has an effect on time remaining on radar after looking. For instance, guy looks at scout. Obviously the scout will pop up on radar now, but if the guy looks away, how long will the scout remain on the radar? I believe precision profile also effects that. But again, to what degree?
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1665	Posted - 2013.09.04 21:59:00 - [3] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: If you can discover the answer to this, it'll be massively appreciated I'm sure. Ideally CCP would just tell us. Ideally... I checked the User Manual ..... If I found anything out I would've updated the Original Post ..... NOT UPDATED
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1665	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:48:00 - [4] - Quote Absoliav wrote: Sadly, there isn't really a way to test your Scan Profile, other than getting hit with an Active Scanner. Actually you can't test with active scanner Active scanner is passive. If you are below the precision, you will not be detected by it at all. It will say "Scan Prevented" It's fulfilling but not useful for this
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1668	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:04:00 - [5] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: IGÇÖm pretty sure scan profiles showing up on the minimap is when people sprint; sprinting with make you pop up on there and having a lower profile reduces you popping up when sprinting. I haven't got a thread post link about it; as I really can't be bothered to go look for at right now.... OK that's some cool stuff to know Anyone interested in helping me test this stuff join my channel bojo so we can talk planning and actually test everything I want to know. We will publish it and become famous.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1671	Posted - 2013.09.05 03:47:00 - [6] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Even if you get an answer, it probably won't help much. Scanning in general seems a bit flaky. Today, I pointed a proto-scanner at a camping sniper and it told me nothing was there (The no errors message and nothing on radar). Edit: And in a reverse case, I scanned an area with the proto-scanner and it lit up a guy way off to my left. It seems flaky because we don't understand how it works
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1677	Posted - 2013.09.05 18:43:00 - [7] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Lt Royal wrote: IGÇÖm pretty sure scan profiles showing up on the minimap is when people sprint; sprinting with make you pop up on there and having a lower profile reduces you popping up when sprinting. I haven't got a thread post link about it; as I really can't be bothered to go look for at right now.... CCP has confirmed that scan profile is static. No action of any kind changes your scan profile. Running, firing etc. does not affect your scan profile. At the time when CCP were confirming that, player testing confirmed that firing most weapons raised your profile. CCP have also confirmed there's a modifier on the Active Scanner that makes you more visible when activating it. Sprinting definitely didn't increase your profile in the early days of Uprising, but firing a weapon did. Different weapons raised your profile by different amounts. I haven't tested it since then, or spoken to anyone who has, but at the time, the testing was verified by multiple sources. See this is what I am talking about. There is this thing called passive scanning, that none of the players are exactly sure how it works so there is much speculation. It's kind of hard to play a game when a key strategy to a whole class of mercs is based on speculative information.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1682	Posted - 2013.09.05 20:21:00 - [8] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Also it'd be nice to see how passive scanning works with vehicles - I only know they are strolling up behind me from the sound they make! Hope this goes well Bojo! Well I can tell you that the vehicle active scanner sure as hell works. I hope people enlist to help me test this stuff
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1687	Posted - 2013.09.05 20:56:00 - [9] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Since it seems relevant to this thread, I wanted to add that profile dampeners are affected by stacking penalties even though it's not listed in the module description. This was confirmed to me by CCP via ticket.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1704	Posted - 2013.09.06 16:07:00 - [10] - Quote CCP land here: You have reworked tacnet, in favor of scouts and scanners, but damn how are we supposed to know what's buffed/nerfed in TACNET if we don't even know the way it officially works?

Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1797	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote Would anyone like to help me and Reav test this out (via FW) to test more suits? EDIT: Since I am lead to believe that scanning is Sonar/Echolocation based, why would passive scanning be fluid at all?