The aim assist completely destroys all variety in game. Whoever now has the strongest tank (read: heavy suit) now loses. There is no more skill needed, you don't even need to aim properly. It's a shooter with training wheels now.

There is ZERO reason to play a scout now because you can't evade anymore and scout tanks obviously suck. There is ZERO reason to play an assault because the heavy is simply better. And playing a logi as a KB/M user is pointless because the equipment wheel is totally broken now.

Less variety = bad

As long as aim assist is in game, I feel like playing with an aim bot. I'm going back to Project Zomboid until they remove it...if not, goodbye Dust.

Just wow.... you assume people don't use battle tactics? yet again another person who thinks taking cover and understanding how the game works, suddenly makes up for computer generated tracking and aiming.

Look people know how to hide behind box's at a certain skill level, they have spent enough time going through the market learning modules and skills. They even know scouts are harder to detect*SHOCKER* and shared vision is off... People even admit hit detection is good now and should be praised.

What they can't come to a consensus on is how strong a toggled "aim for you" button should actually be... Is it to help people who think a computer helping your aim will help you learn and ultimately be better at aiming?... which to anyone who goes through the learning curve knows isn't true.

To be honest every point about Aim assist has already been made through the closed and open beta process of DUST 514. the problem is we have come full circle back to the same issue for the third time, we have already been over this extensively in the past. Its a waste of everyone's time specially when they should of already learned.

Doesn't change the fact that this essentially removes all skill. It took me weeks to become good at aiming with the scrambler pistol for example...but thanks to the latest patch, EVERYONE is now exactly as good at aiming. Skill doesn't matter anymore.

The "use cover" argument isn't valid either because that argument was valid before the patch as well. "Don't get shot at" is a silly piece of advice, no offense.

Tell me, do you think it's fair that someone just starting at the game now is just as good at aiming as a 1yr veteran? How does CCP intend to motivate players long term? If skill doesn't matter, why should I keep on playing the same maps over and over and over again?

Basically, in a 1vs1 situation, you can't really beat an AR heavy anymore if you run a scout/assault/logi. Whoever has the best tank wins, because damage wise we're all pretty much getting the same damage now (due to hitting the same amount).

This patch essentially stole all long term motivation for me...unless it gets fixed I'm back to Project Zomboid. At least that's not a "training wheel" game.

You're bound to get shot at unless you face complete idiots who don't watch their back. Being stealthy shouldn't mean you die the second someone fires more than 2 bullets in your general direction.

Also, a single heavy with a scrambler pistol or AR now murders most players he sees.

Notice how the only gun doing this is the Ar

Your logic fails. Hard.

Last time I checked, my heavy suit's job description was to get shot at. In fact, if a heavy is doing it properly, he should have several people shooting at him at any given moment. We have the most hp, the largest hitbox, and the slowest movement speed with the most intimidating weapons. Our job description is literally "walking target - with a huge gun", which saves our squishier blues from taking damage.

The problem with the aimbot assist is that it is too good. When people saw a heavy three days ago, panic set in. We didn't take less damage because we were harder to hit - that 10% reduction to our strafe speed amounts to what, less than half a meter per second? Nor do I believe we were being blessed with much benefit from any lag or hit detection problems because of our awful mobility made it impossible to take advantage of said problems. It was because panicking red dots don't tend to aim well while also dodging HMG fire.

Now, the intimidation is gone. Those panicking reds? They no longer have to aim well while dodging HMG fire because their aimbot assist can track us especially perfect given our huge hitbox size and lack of mobility - all they have to do is run side to side and jump up and down with their superior maneuverability while the computer aiming handles the hard part for them.

Scouts are screwed not because of a lack of mobility, but because of their paper thin armor. The aim assist doesn't have to track them nearly as well or for nearly as long.

If you cannot see how broken this is, you need to step down as a CPM member and let someone less biased or more observant handle the task of representing the community at large.

Claiming that people need to use tactics is a serious affront to the majority of the playerbase, it assumes the poster saying this is somehow one of the only ones intelligent enough to know how to hide behind a wall or move in a group, which is a ridiculous assumption to make given that the vast majority of the playerbase already knows how to hide behind walls or move with a group. Even the stupidest of blue dots understands this concept, and assuming you're the Zhuge Liang of Dust because you use the most basic fundamental tactics to give yourself a strategic advantage is hilariously presumptuous.

... obviously you don't play scout?

You can't actually be that dense, right? You're just trolling, right?

Your literal defense of aimbot assist boils down to "STAY IN COVER AT ALL TIMES EVEN AT THE COST OF SHOOTING BACK. LALALALALALA IF YOU'RE GETTING SHOT AT ALL EVER YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE", ignoring entirely one suit's role on the battle field, even when confronted with the fact that it's designed specifically to be shot at. Lots.

Plugging your ears and going "I CAN'T HEAR YOU" doesn't make my point any less valid. There is a suit specifically designed to be shot - if it wasn't designed to be shot at, it would be fast and stealthy (almost like a uh, what're those things... oh right, scouts) - but it's slow, it's got crap mobility, and it has the armor of a tank. Because, again, it's designed to be shot at. It even says so right in the description.

Since you think you're the master of tactics because you know how to hide behind walls, I'm going to assume you know what flanking is. In Dust, a flank only works if someone is taking the enemy fire. Since only a full on ****** is going to shoot at a wall someone is behind (I'm guessing this applies to you?), sometimes distracting the enemy means getting shot. Repeatedly. Until such time as the flankers can get into position to kill the things shooting at you. There are numerous other situations which involve exposing yourself to hostile gunfire, on purpose, for the greater good of the team. If you do not understand this, I'm going to venture a guess you're a solo player with no idea how to work with a team, and that you've got a much poorer understanding of tactics than you would like to believe.

Yes, getting shot, in general, is a bad thing. However, if we were all supposed to never get shot EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!11111ONEONEONE as you seem to think, heavies would not be in the game, logis would be completely useless, and we would all be using scout suits with sniper rifles. This does not sound like a fun game. Judging by the fact that the aforementioned suits do in fact exist, and we aren't all running around in scouts with sniper rifles, I'm guessing CCP agrees with me here.

Again, I feel I need to reiterate, you've got no business being a CPM member. You're far too ignorant of the core mechanics of the game to do any member of this community any good as the medium between the players and the devs. Please do us all - yourself included - a favor and step down immediately.