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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:58:00 -
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in order to stop logi's from harvesting revive wp on poor infantry by reviveing them persistantly under fire i propose ccp, that you make a failed res...(a revive used during fire where the patient died) cost logi's - wp equivilant to the revive. this way when a logi sees a teamate lying under fire and they revive them there is a risk for them as well...as with the teamate they get 1 more death to their score ..the logi should lose wp for that. this will bring more skill tot he craft of logi. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:01:00 -
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Negative. Then people will be too worried about their wp to revive anyone at all. Instead, have a timer start on the revive. If the merc lives past the timer, then wp is awarded. |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
196
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:03:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Negative. Then people will be too worried about their wp to revive anyone at all. Instead, have a timer start on the revive. If the merc lives past the timer, then wp is awarded.
thats doable as well...i am harsh ..i dont res people in fire and people i do res dont die afterward |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:07:00 -
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It should be a short timer. Something like 5-7 sec. Enough time for the revived merc to get into cover. |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
196
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:12:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:It should be a short timer. Something like 5-7 sec. Enough time for the revived merc to get into cover.
hmm enough time for him to get to cover yes...if you die 10 seconds after a revive its your own damn fault for sure...most res kills occur almost instantaneously as the logi's dont even try to push the enemy off your corpse first in most cases |
Dante Vento
Firefly Shipping co.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:17:00 -
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It's usually not logi's but noob assaults that spam revives. I'm a logi and as such my goal it to get you alive and back fighting. WP are nice but I don't revive for points. If the Assaults would keep firing at the enemy I would be able to swoop in revive and repair in seconds. It's when the noobs all stop firing to revive that you get revive-killed. Seriously, 4 guys stop shooting to revive 1 guy and not one is a logi. While I, the logi with the ADV equipment gets killed even before the militia revived corpse and still didn't get the revive.
Regardless, I carry expensive gear. You want me to take addition "risk" other than running into the open to get your sorry corpse and possibly lose my very valuable suit, by tacking on wp decreases and additional deaths? I usually die anyways if someone comes around a corner after already pushing the revive button. A WP decrease and an extra death would be pennies to pay if it ment the noobs stayed on task. |
Crow Splat
DUST University
Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:40:00 -
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I just want the ability to decline a revive. Unless you can rep me or have proto nanites, just let me lay there. It's really annoying getting revived with like 50 armor and not getting repped. Especially if my fit is armor tanked. |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
196
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:52:00 -
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Dante Vento wrote:It's usually not logi's but noob assaults that spam revives. I'm a logi and as such my goal it to get you alive and back fighting. WP are nice but I don't revive for points. If the Assaults would keep firing at the enemy I would be able to swoop in revive and repair in seconds. It's when the noobs all stop firing to revive that you get revive-killed. Seriously, 4 guys stop shooting to revive 1 guy and not one is a logi. While I, the logi with the ADV equipment gets killed even before the militia revived corpse and still didn't get the revive.
Regardless, I carry expensive gear. You want me to take addition "risk" other than running into the open to get your sorry corpse and possibly lose my very valuable suit, by tacking on wp decreases and additional deaths? I usually die anyways if someone comes around a corner after already pushing the revive button. A WP decrease and an extra death would be pennies to pay if it ment the noobs stayed on task.
a fully specced logi suit is more capable of dealing with infatry i run logi and i would not be effected by a nerf like this because i gen kill the people who downed u bef i res u...no good logi would really be effected by this....if not a fix of this sort than another..( needles should be usable by logi suits only then ).u should not be able to run around witha needle and force res people under fire...but even forcing needles to logi's only wouldnt fix this as logi spam res for wp specially bluebie logi's that cant shoot. so a wp gain only AFTER THE PERSON SURVIVES A PERIOD or wp loss if the person dies within a time frame is really the only solution..that effects everyone using needles |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
196
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:53:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:I just want the ability to decline a revive. Unless you can rep me or have proto nanites, just let me lay there. It's really annoying getting revived with like 50 armor and not getting repped. Especially if my fit is armor tanked.
sure sure if you go to the map and are tying to respawn they shouldnt be able to revive u that simple u wanna be revive sit there at the person who downed u screen and call for help |
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