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AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:07:00 -
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There shouldent even be the option to use it. Its a pathetic option not for people who dont want to use a controller, but rather people who want to beat people with controllers.
It clearley gives you an unfair advantage agianst people who use controllers and being a game for the system and not a computer, theres no good reason for it to even be apart of the game. Especially sence the buff not makes it tottaly unrealistic, being as your character can spin in a complete instant with the buff, while people who play to have fun and a fair fight, using a controller get stomped on, by people with this unfair pathetic advantage.
Just get rid of it, B ut the trend i get from these forums is that most like the game in there favor so..whats the point |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1975
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:09:00 -
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Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about? |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
326
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:10:00 -
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Don't hate the player, hate yourself for not getting on our level. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
521
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:11:00 -
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AnALogginS wrote:There shouldent even be the option to use it. Its a pathetic option not for people who dont want to use a controller, but rather people who want to beat people with controllers.
It clearley gives you an unfair advantage agianst people who use controllers and being a game for the system and not a computer, theres no good reason for it to even be apart of the game. Especially sence the buff not makes it tottaly unrealistic, being as your character can spin in a complete instant with the buff, while people who play to have fun and a fair fight, using a controller get stomped on, by people with this unfair pathetic advantage.
Just get rid of it, B ut the trend i get from these forums is that most like the game in there favor so..whats the point
If it wasn't for aim assist kb/m would be pathetically OP. I do completely agree. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
437
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:14:00 -
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You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy that was for ya... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1417
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:16:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya...
dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
446
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:20:00 -
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OK guys. If you use KB/m and are complaining that the DS3 doods have "aim bot" then you are obviously bad... |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
321
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:20:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA have you used kb&m yet? Go pick up a kb&m right now and tell me how that works out for you
Controller user: Oh look a red-dot, *ads* Dust514: "woah woah hold on, you can't aim, let me do this for you, just hold R1 for me."
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
438
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:25:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot.
1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
625
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:27:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. So, do you think the Aim Assist is too much?
Would you agree that the Kb/M community in general is of a similar opinion to yours?
Do you possibly think it may be a combination of better hit detection, and the fact that you are not as good as you thought you were? |
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
307
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:33:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. I don't think it's raw, but the mouse can turn/aim so much faster now (in and out of ADS). To me that's always be the far bigger limitation compared to the virtual joystick thing. In terms of hitting a target (especially in CQC) there's really no excuse for a mouse user to not beat a DS3 user, even with aim assist. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
445
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:40:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. So, do you think the Aim Assist is too much? Would you agree that the Kb/M community in general is of a similar opinion to yours? Do you possibly think it may be a combination of better hit detection, and the fact that you are not as good as you thought you were? (assuming you are on the "aimbot" qq train)
My only opinion is, if DS3 gets the luxury of aim assist, kb/m should get the luxury of raw input.. Because I've used both today and if you're good with the DS3 it has an advantage over the mouse in its current state especially when it comes to ADS... |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
534
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:44:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. So, do you think the Aim Assist is too much? Would you agree that the Kb/M community in general is of a similar opinion to yours? Do you possibly think it may be a combination of better hit detection, and the fact that you are not as good as you thought you were? (assuming you are on the "aimbot" qq train) My only opinion is, if DS3 gets the luxury of aim assist, kb/m should get the luxury of raw input.. Because I've used both today and if you're good with the DS3 it has an advantage over the mouse in its current state especially when it comes to ADS...
People used to say..."then, just buy a keyboard and a mouse". But, you don't even have to buy a controller, you already have it! Use it if you think it's OP. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
445
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:54:00 -
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I used the controller today for the first time in months and went 28-3 and this is coming from someone thst despises the controller hence why I push for better kb/m controls...
Sure I could use the DS3 but I don't want to, as a DS3 user doesn't want to use a kb/m... I'm not forcing neither onto anyone but ill continue to try to be unbias as possible while of course fighting for better kb/m controls.. As I would expect a DS3 user to defend aim assist on DS3.. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1422
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:15:00 -
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We are not using raw input right now. Currently there is still additional acceleration at certain mouse scrolling speeds which is not normal.
This means it is still attempting to emulate the analog, which is bad. And CCP should feel bad.
Actually, just Wolfman. |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
325
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:41:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. So, do you think the Aim Assist is too much? Would you agree that the Kb/M community in general is of a similar opinion to yours? Do you possibly think it may be a combination of better hit detection, and the fact that you are not as good as you thought you were? (assuming you are on the "aimbot" qq train)
http://youtu.be/tSbbe9JlwGU
Watch that video, that's me, notice the precise ADS? Notice any jerking? Ok, now go pick up a kb&m, go replicate that. I'll give you this 17.2 mill sp char if you can
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
233
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:53:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. ..
The aiming with KB/M is faster now, however it feels too lose when aiming down the sights. Granted I will get used to it, but the aim assist people are getting is crazy. Tearing me up from all sorts of badass ranges where before they wouldn't land shots. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1461
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:56:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:We are not using raw input right now. Currently there is still additional acceleration at certain mouse scrolling speeds which is not normal.
This means it is still attempting to emulate the analog, which is bad. And CCP should feel bad.
Actually, just Wolfman.
really?
got ousted from tranquility before i had a chance to test much. all i know is the patch notes said raw so i took if at face value.....but i guess that is my problem too.....when has CCP ever had accurate patch notes in dust? |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1461
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:56:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. The aiming with KB/M is faster now, however it feels too lose when aiming down the sights. Granted I will get used to it, but the aim assist people are getting is crazy. Tearing me up from all sorts of badass ranges where before they wouldn't land shots.
its not loose, it is simply the same speed used for ADS as hipfire, where most other FPSs have a lower sensitivity on ADS |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1462
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:01:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:bolsh lee wrote:You're out of your damn mind if you think the Kb/M got buffed, since uprising the mouse has been programmed to mimick the analog sticks.. Not to mention the mouse DOES NOT get aim assist..
So turn your aim assist off then use your palm to aim your analog stick, come back and tell me how easy thart was for ya... dont pop his bubble, people like their double standards and ignorance is confortable. With this build m+kb got raw input (**** YES) but DS3 users got an aimbot. 1.4 does not feel like raw input but would love to have a dev prove me wrong. .. So, do you think the Aim Assist is too much? Would you agree that the Kb/M community in general is of a similar opinion to yours? Do you possibly think it may be a combination of better hit detection, and the fact that you are not as good as you thought you were? (assuming you are on the "aimbot" qq train) http://youtu.be/tSbbe9JlwGUWatch that video, that's me, notice the precise ADS? Notice any jerking? Ok, now go pick up a kb&m, go replicate that. I'll give you this 17.2 mill sp char if you can
most kiddies these days werent schooled in the ways of old school, twitch FPS.
aiming in vid was not bad and i only assume you have played them because you have a steadier hand than most kids these days who grew up with COD aiming for them
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AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
109
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:28:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about?
"Hey use aimbot cause our keyboard and mouse is op and youd have to live under a rock not to know that" |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
109
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:30:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about?
Hahaha and here come the eon pussys. The most laughable corp in the game here to defend its imbalaces. If i got on your level ide just be another talentless hack. Same old crap from you chumps. Its just pathetic now |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
109
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:33:00 -
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Also you all talk like you know how the aimbot perfoms, also on the assumtion that everyone uses it. The same Pathetic BS they all want you to thin so they can keep there unfair advantage |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
208
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:35:00 -
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I'd say the overall net for m/kb in 1.4 is a loss. Either the hip is too slow or ads too fast. Input lag still very apparent. Ds3 got major buff and my aiming is worse off... It sux too bc i looked forward to this day since the 1st day of uprising. It was like Christmas morning today, looked all around for chromosome aiming, but all i got was fkn coal. Closer to giving up on dust as of today than i have ever been. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:44:00 -
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AnALogginS wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about? Hahaha and here come the eon pussys. The most laughable corp in the game here to defend its imbalaces. If i got on your level ide just be another talentless hack. Same old crap from you chumps. Its just pathetic now
So this thread was really just for you to vent.. I mean that's cool and all, I've certainly done my fair share of venting in GD as well.
I will say this though, in your rage you made a critical mistake. EoN is not a corp, its an alliance. Whatever your views on an entire alliance's strategy for holding land in PC, I don't think it translates well to apprising an individual player's skill.
So feel free to continue to hurtle insults around on the forum. I, personally, think it just makes you look like a child.. but I can understand its theraputic properties for sure.
btw, when you die to someone in a long range battle, I wouldn't necessarily go straight to 'kbm hacks'. The kbm support in dust prior to 1.4 has been less than stellar (sounds like its still not that great), and will continue to be as long as its analog emulation as opposed to raw input. kbm was never OP, you have probably just died to more skilled players, of which I can almost guarantee was a fairly equal distribution of DS3 and KBM users, as I suspect the game has a fairly equal distribution of the two input methods as well. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1469
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:47:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:AnALogginS wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about? Hahaha and here come the eon pussys. The most laughable corp in the game here to defend its imbalaces. If i got on your level ide just be another talentless hack. Same old crap from you chumps. Its just pathetic now So this thread was really just for you to vent.. I mean that's cool and all, I've certainly done my fair share of venting in GD as well. I will say this though, in your rage you made a critical mistake. EoN is not a corp, its an alliance. Whatever your views on an entire alliance's strategy for holding land in PC, I don't think it translates well to apprising an individual player's skill. So feel free to continue to hurtle insults around on the forum. I, personally, think it just makes you look like a child.. but I can understand its theraputic properties for sure. btw, when you die to someone in a long range battle, I wouldn't necessarily go straight to 'kbm hacks'. The kbm support in dust prior to 1.4 has been less than stellar (sounds like its still not that great), and will continue to be as long as its analog emulation as opposed to raw input. kbm was never OP, you have probably just died to more skilled players, of which I can almost guarantee was a fairly equal distribution of DS3 and KBM users, as I suspect the game has a fairly equal distribution of the two input methods as well.
your a little na+»ve zdubs......you dont teach a kid with logic, you spank them. their minds arent developed yet. |
Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:55:00 -
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Really not sure what your complaining about AnALoggins but since I joined this game back in closed beta I've had the "Aim-Assist" option off (working or not it isn't how I play and I don't need) and I have continued to stomp KB/M players and DS3 players alike into DUST. (Ha) If you think the KB/M is OP so what? Prove to them us console players with controllers held in hand can keep up and even surpass computer KB/M players no matter how unbalanced it is. (Which I don't really think it us but meh, who am I right?)
Vae Victis |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
110
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:59:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:AnALogginS wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about? Hahaha and here come the eon pussys. The most laughable corp in the game here to defend its imbalaces. If i got on your level ide just be another talentless hack. Same old crap from you chumps. Its just pathetic now So this thread was really just for you to vent.. I mean that's cool and all, I've certainly done my fair share of venting in GD as well. I will say this though, in your rage you made a critical mistake. EoN is not a corp, its an alliance. Whatever your views on an entire alliance's strategy for holding land in PC, I don't think it translates well to apprising an individual player's skill. So feel free to continue to hurtle insults around on the forum. I, personally, think it just makes you look like a child.. but I can understand its theraputic properties for sure. btw, when you die to someone in a long range battle, I wouldn't necessarily go straight to 'kbm hacks'. The kbm support in dust prior to 1.4 has been less than stellar (sounds like its still not that great), and will continue to be as long as its analog emulation as opposed to raw input. kbm was never OP, you have probably just died to more skilled players, of which I can almost guarantee was a fairly equal distribution of DS3 and KBM users, as I suspect the game has a fairly equal distribution of the two input methods as well.
No i just talk about the clearley unfair systems in the game, after all thats what there for, you might love to rage, i try to help. and i dont spend my time trying to undermind everyone. submit or shutup
it seems your Just another jerkoff with all the answers huh? Eon is about as proudfull and respectable as the **** on my shoe.
And youve got some nerve calling me a child, When everything you argue isent based on fact or even reason.
Grow up. Or just keep being the big man you are. Keep trying to undermind everything everyone says, Its not like it discredits it. Some people just read and dont take it the the butt. |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
110
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:01:00 -
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Nosid Katona wrote:Really not sure what your complaining about AnALoggins but since I joined this game back in closed beta I've had the "Aim-Assist" option off (working or not it isn't how I play and I don't need) and I have continued to stomp KB/M players and DS3 players alike into DUST. (Ha) If you think the KB/M is OP so what? Prove to them us console players with controllers held in hand can keep up and even surpass computer KB/M players no matter how unbalanced it is. (Which I don't really think it us but meh, who am I right?)
Vae Victis
Oh ok, "Just do better even though its unfair" Thanks. If its not and evden playing feild, if its not a fair fight, You cant call it a win. Something a good deal of the playerbase dosent get. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1484
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:03:00 -
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AnALogginS wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:AnALogginS wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Dude you have aimbot now... what are you crying about? Hahaha and here come the eon pussys. The most laughable corp in the game here to defend its imbalaces. If i got on your level ide just be another talentless hack. Same old crap from you chumps. Its just pathetic now So this thread was really just for you to vent.. I mean that's cool and all, I've certainly done my fair share of venting in GD as well. I will say this though, in your rage you made a critical mistake. EoN is not a corp, its an alliance. Whatever your views on an entire alliance's strategy for holding land in PC, I don't think it translates well to apprising an individual player's skill. So feel free to continue to hurtle insults around on the forum. I, personally, think it just makes you look like a child.. but I can understand its theraputic properties for sure. btw, when you die to someone in a long range battle, I wouldn't necessarily go straight to 'kbm hacks'. The kbm support in dust prior to 1.4 has been less than stellar (sounds like its still not that great), and will continue to be as long as its analog emulation as opposed to raw input. kbm was never OP, you have probably just died to more skilled players, of which I can almost guarantee was a fairly equal distribution of DS3 and KBM users, as I suspect the game has a fairly equal distribution of the two input methods as well. No i just talk about the clearley unfair systems in the game, after all thats what there for, you might love to rage, i try to help. and i dont spend my time trying to undermind everyone. submit or shutup it seems your Just another jerkoff with all the answers huh? Eon is about as proudfull and respectable as the **** on my shoe. And youve got some nerve calling me a child, When everything you argue isent based on fact or even reason. Grow up. Or just keep being the big man you are. Keep trying to undermind everything everyone says, Its not like it discredits it. Some people just read and dont take it the the butt.
you know why we know you're a kid? because you cant make a post without insulting him, pointing out that hes in eon, or implying that hes gay.
if your not a kid then you certainly have the mental maturity of one. |
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1987
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:07:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:you know why we know you're a kid? because you cant make a post without insulting him, pointing out that hes in eon, or implying that hes gay.
if your not a kid then you certainly have the mental maturity of one.
People generally resort to insults when they can't argue with logic. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1486
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:09:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:you know why we know you're a kid? because you cant make a post without insulting him, pointing out that hes in eon, or implying that hes gay.
if your not a kid then you certainly have the mental maturity of one. People generally resort to insults when they can't argue with logic.
STB was being hated on before it was even cool |
Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
48
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:13:00 -
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AnALogginS wrote:Nosid Katona wrote:Really not sure what your complaining about AnALoggins but since I joined this game back in closed beta I've had the "Aim-Assist" option off (working or not it isn't how I play and I don't need) and I have continued to stomp KB/M players and DS3 players alike into DUST. (Ha) If you think the KB/M is OP so what? Prove to them us console players with controllers held in hand can keep up and even surpass computer KB/M players no matter how unbalanced it is. (Which I don't really think it us but meh, who am I right?)
Vae Victis Oh ok, "Just do better even though its unfair" Thanks. If its not and evden playing feild, if its not a fair fight, You cant call it a win. Something a good deal of the playerbase dosent get.
No such thing as a fair fight, you can have nearly even fights but they will never truly be "fair" in any circumstance. Also you seem to have projected some of your unwarranted hostility towards me and have thus misunderstood the meaning behind my words. I don't mean "Just do better (Although you should always strive to do better.) even though it's unfair (Which I don't think it is)." I am more of the opinion "Have pride in the fact you don't use something you see as unfair, unbalanced, and/or a crutch; then show them you are more skilled and persistent DESPITE those things by out doing them." (<--Bolded one of my favorite words.)
Vae Victis |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
329
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:15:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:[
most kiddies these days werent schooled in the ways of old school, twitch FPS.
aiming in vid was not bad and i only assume you have played them because you have a steadier hand than most kids these days who grew up with COD aiming for them
Im just showing how aiming was BEFORE with KB&M "fix", I'll post a thread shortly after the video is done uploading showcasing CCPs TERRIBLE aiming "fix" with the mouse & keyboard, this is the before video taken three days before 1.4
There was NOTHING wrong with mouse and keyboard in 1.3, only DS3 players had trouble. That video proves it |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1486
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:17:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:[
most kiddies these days werent schooled in the ways of old school, twitch FPS.
aiming in vid was not bad and i only assume you have played them because you have a steadier hand than most kids these days who grew up with COD aiming for them
Im just showing how aiming was BEFORE with KB&M "fix", I'll post a thread shortly after the video is done uploading showcasing CCPs TERRIBLE aiming "fix" with the mouse & keyboard, this is the before video taken three days before 1.4 There was NOTHING wrong with mouse and keyboard in 1.3, only DS3 players had trouble. That video proves it
woah, were in the same alliance? go figure. wanna squad up sometime for s.hits n gigs? |
Frank Olson Usul
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:25:00 -
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AnALogginS wrote:There shouldent even be the option to use it. Its a pathetic option not for people who dont want to use a controller, but rather people who want to beat people with controllers.
It clearley gives you an unfair advantage agianst people who use controllers and being a game for the system and not a computer, theres no good reason for it to even be apart of the game. Especially sence the buff not makes it tottaly unrealistic, being as your character can spin in a complete instant with the buff, while people who play to have fun and a fair fight, using a controller get stomped on, by people with this unfair pathetic advantage.
Just get rid of it, B ut the trend i get from these forums is that most like the game in there favor so..whats the point
Simply put: This is a game for people that are about 20-35 years old. A lot of them only played PC games and invested 300 euros/dollars into a playstation just because they think CCP does awesome stuff.
It would be fatal for their game to remove the kind of input device that their main audience is used to. I for myself never had a Sony product and the last console I had was a N64 when it was brandnew. It would take me more than 6 months to get a decent aiming with a DS3 stick. They would lose a lot of their playerbase. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:27:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:[
most kiddies these days werent schooled in the ways of old school, twitch FPS.
aiming in vid was not bad and i only assume you have played them because you have a steadier hand than most kids these days who grew up with COD aiming for them
Im just showing how aiming was BEFORE with KB&M "fix", I'll post a thread shortly after the video is done uploading showcasing CCPs TERRIBLE aiming "fix" with the mouse & keyboard, this is the before video taken three days before 1.4 There was NOTHING wrong with mouse and keyboard in 1.3, only DS3 players had trouble. That video proves it
There is/was most defitely something wrong with m/kb aiming. At the very least it is input lag, but i think the problem is in its foundation. I would like to know what settings / dpi the devs that work on m/kb aiming use, bc their is no way they are giving the go ahead with the same aiming experience i have. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:41:00 -
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As a PC fps player who has been in large tournaments and come in the top 5, I use a gamepad (or controller). The only handicap the gamepad puts on people is usage in console games where there is already over use of aimbot and aim assist. Both are fair platforms if skilled in use and are both equally viable to be used competitivelly against each other. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:43:00 -
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Aim assist is necessity for console shooters. The only reason they have the mouse option was because they were planning to link computers and consoles. With this idea scrapped they should scrap the keyboard and mouse option. They only put it in because they knew the console variants would be at a disadvantage. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:03:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Aim assist is necessity for console shooters. The only reason they have the mouse option was because they were planning to link computers and consoles. With this idea scrapped they should scrap the keyboard and mouse option. They only put it in because they knew the console variants would be at a disadvantage.
The DS3 DOES NOT need aim assist to be competitive, its bullshit and people should stop propagating it. Gamepads are competitive to kb/m if you have any semblance of skill. This is coming from a PC fps player who uses a gamepad on PC |
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