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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:17:00 -
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Its not hard to shoot someone in the face?
I don't think anyone in the game right now is bad enough not to be able to hit their targets with their own mental acuity and reflexes. So why put Aim Assist in? |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
2959
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:18:00 -
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I'm more than a little disappointed that 'improving aiming' was practically adding an aimbot.
Several times so far today I've shot people I've had no right to hit at all and vice versa. |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:18:00 -
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So CCP makes scouts useless with aim assist you will be able to shoot me while running 8.3 meters |
Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
145
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:19:00 -
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because CCP couldn't just fix KB/M without shutting up DS3 users. |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:19:00 -
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Because this is a F2P lobby shooter. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:20:00 -
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So CQC aint a tap dancing fight with smgs with a DS3 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm more than a little disappointed that 'improving aiming' was practically adding an aimbot.
Several times so far today I've shot people I've had no right to hit at all and vice versa.
Will I get it for my Tanks? Will my Soman become some godly tanks that no infantry can destroy because I'm too busy head shotting ever swarmer a mile away? |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
326
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:20:00 -
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Because scrublets have issues aiming at targets that aren't moving. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:22:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because scrublets have issues aiming at targets that aren't moving.
I suck at aiming too but I would never ask for a ******* computer to do it for me.
If I'm missing its because I deserved to be killed.
AKA- slight scrublet here by most PROZORZL33Tzor standards. |
ugg reset
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
373
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:22:00 -
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If a game controller is involved in a game then there is always some level of aim assist. always.
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
615
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:23:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because scrublets have issues aiming at targets that aren't moving.
Wrong.
It is because there were known issues where a person making quick back and forth strafing movements negated any hit detection registering on them.
One should not be able to strafe back and forth inside the reticule of an HMG and take no damage. This is what was happening prior to 1.4. It was happening with all weapons, but was probably most noticeable with the HMG. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
5701
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:24:00 -
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To compete with unshackled KB&M |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
112
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:25:00 -
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Because console users cant live without it.
This coming from someone who plays PC with a controller and does fine., |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:26:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Because console users cant live without it.
This coming from someone who plays PC with a controller and does fine.,
But we were living without it just fine.... |
Dust Project 514
Pistol King
257
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:26:00 -
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It should be removed, as well as the Kb/M support.
Completely unbalanced. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3605
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:26:00 -
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To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:27:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:To compete with unshackled KB&M
As much I would love to compete with the K/BM I don't think allowing for , what Arkena calls, an Aimbot is really the right way to go. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:28:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much.
So Dusts Aim Assist is way to high?
BTW are Swarms as broken as I imagine them to be? |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1014
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:28:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much.
This isn't aim assist, this is a fully developed aimbot! |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
391
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:28:00 -
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The unresponsive controls that some of the players are getting. Aim assist sometimes helps to align the first shot. Also, this helps people with mouse and ps3 dildo controller. |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1097
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:30:00 -
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I don't even notice it. Not has anyone I've actually talked to.
Perhaps you guys should just stop playing video games. You may be too good for them. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:30:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:The unresponsive controls that some of the players are getting. Aim assist sometimes helps to align the first shot. Also, this helps people with mouse and ps3 dildo controller.
I was unaware that Sony was developing Controllers that double in giving women pleasure and gaming.. |
D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3
Inver Brass
27
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:32:00 -
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I find it hilarious to see a bunch of grown men whining. Grow a pair or quit the freakin game. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1523
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:35:00 -
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I find it hilarious to see a bunch of grown men whining. Grow a pair or quit the freakin game.
Game is fine. Not whining. Simply trying to understand and collect some feedback from the games player base.
I am sure someone like me will get the best out of Aimbo...Aim Assist but its whether or not it was a wise decision for CCP to either make such a heavy handed change or if its necessary at all.
Its seems like it is necessary to have it to negate the strafe hit detection problems, but perhaps from the responses to this thread the Aim Assist should be tuned slightly to only provide minimal correction to aim. |
Storm Shelton
XCUTI0N
6
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:35:00 -
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As a sniper, I am going to deactivate aim-assist, If possible. I like to be in control of my crosshair.
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3
Inver Brass
27
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I find it hilarious to see a bunch of grown men whining. Grow a pair or quit the freakin game. Game is fine. Not whining. Simply trying to understand and collect some feedback from the games player base. I am sure someone like me will get the best out of Aimbo...Aim Assist but its whether or not it was a wise decision for CCP to either make such a heavy handed change or if its necessary at all. Its seems like it is necessary to have it to negate the strafe hit detection problems, but perhaps from the responses to this thread the Aim Assist should be tuned slightly to only provide minimal correction to aim.
Some people playing have modified controllers or keyboard and mouse that gives them an advantage over most other players. This should balance that out somewhat. |
Kal Kronos
Svartur Bjorn
7
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:39:00 -
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Its slows sensitivity slightly I have yet to notice any magnetism what so ever, magnetism is the noticeable portion of aim assist. Its probably a test, and people are just seeing a placebo effect with no changes having actually happened lol. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
117
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:40:00 -
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Thank you guys for scaring me off from updating |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1528
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:41:00 -
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:True Adamance wrote:D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I find it hilarious to see a bunch of grown men whining. Grow a pair or quit the freakin game. Game is fine. Not whining. Simply trying to understand and collect some feedback from the games player base. I am sure someone like me will get the best out of Aimbo...Aim Assist but its whether or not it was a wise decision for CCP to either make such a heavy handed change or if its necessary at all. Its seems like it is necessary to have it to negate the strafe hit detection problems, but perhaps from the responses to this thread the Aim Assist should be tuned slightly to only provide minimal correction to aim. Some people playing have modified controllers or keyboard and mouse that gives them an advantage over most other players. This should balance that out somewhat.
Perhaps we shall see. Still wondering if my Tank will get the aim assist. |
sammus420
Goonfeet
Top Men.
323
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:42:00 -
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Aim Assist is a terrible, terrible idea in any FPS. CCP has stated in the past they want dust to be a "compeditive game" with build in e-sports (gladiator ring, gambling) but when aim assist is incorporated, that will always be an impossibility because the gameplay is no longer about skill. |
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Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
162
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:45:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:Its slows sensitivity slightly I have yet to notice any magnetism what so ever, magnetism is the noticeable portion of aim assist. Its probably a test, and people are just seeing a placebo effect with no changes having actually happened lol.
This this is all i can notice it feels easier to fine aim i dont see any magnatism what so ever on this i fear alot of this may be in peoples heads, i have only played 3 matches so just may not have found it but i have not been hit by something i would call aim bot and iam fairly certain its not aiming for me as my performance is not really that different than before i just notice a bit better hit detection |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1595
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Its not hard to shoot someone in the face?
I don't think anyone in the game right now is bad enough not to be able to hit their targets with their own mental acuity and reflexes. So why put Aim Assist in?
It was in th game for the year before they took it out...
All it does is slow down your aiming when you are over a target but not all weapons , and if you are good it's better with it off. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
799
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much. So Dusts Aim Assist is way to high? BTW are Swarms as broken as I imagine them to be?
No you are just as the rest of forum people. Looking what Weapon to make a QQ thread.
NO ONE has even complained about swarms, and yet. ...Since they were improved the need to category a weapon as OP is still there, the need to whine.
Not even 24 hours have passed and This.
This is why CCP shouldnt listen to us at all.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
745
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:46:00 -
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Burn the aimbots! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1528
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:46:00 -
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Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:Kal Kronos wrote:Its slows sensitivity slightly I have yet to notice any magnetism what so ever, magnetism is the noticeable portion of aim assist. Its probably a test, and people are just seeing a placebo effect with no changes having actually happened lol. This this is all i can notice it feels easier to fine aim i dont see any magnatism what so ever on this i fear alot of this may be in peoples heads, i have only played 3 matches so just may not have found it but i have not been hit by something i would call aim bot and iam fairly certain its not aiming for me as my performance is not really that different than before i just notice a bit better hit detection
This could be true. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
39
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:47:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:So CCP makes scouts useless with aim assist you will be able to shoot me while running 8.3 meters
try 10.33. still killed while i was behind cover |
D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3
Inver Brass
27
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:48:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much. So Dusts Aim Assist is way to high? BTW are Swarms as broken as I imagine them to be? No you are just as the rest of forum people. Looking what Weapon to make a QQ thread. NO ONE has even complained about swarms, and yet. ...Since they were improved the need to category a weapon as OP is still there, the need to whine. Not even 24 hours have passed and This. This is why CCP shouldnt listen to us at all.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1528
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:48:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much. So Dusts Aim Assist is way to high? BTW are Swarms as broken as I imagine them to be? No you are just as the rest of forum people. Looking what Weapon to make a QQ thread. NO ONE has even complained about swarms, and yet. ...Since they were improved the need to category a weapon as OP is still there, the need to whine. Not even 24 hours have passed and This. This is why CCP shouldnt listen to us at all.
Not really I looked at the stats and saw the reduction from 2.0 down to 0.3. Not exactly sure how that would work in practice until the Swarms are levelled at me but it seems like a really big buff to me. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3530
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:01:00 -
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When the aim assist works, it's utterly ridiculous gamebreaking OP. If you're trying to aim for yourself, it entirely ruins your ability to do so. When it doesn't work is about 40% of the time while it's turned on. When it's turned off, it's a LOT more comfortable and consistent, at least for me.
So... yeah. As a primarily sixaxis player, please tone this down MASSIVELY.
At least turning it off doesn't break my ability to aim in CQC like it used to. I like that change a lot. |
Al Lopestes
PlayStation Home Comminity Group
29
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:09:00 -
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Here's my experience with the Aim Assit: i don't feel like having Aimbot at all (even if its on) |
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: I was unaware that Sony was developing Controllers that double in giving women pleasure and gaming..
developed. past tense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rez#Trance_Vibrator
no, this is not a joke, it is real 
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1530
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:22:00 -
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Wow.... just Wow. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
73
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:28:00 -
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This is terrible. Hate it! Before this aimbot, players with no skill had little to no chance of killing me, now I'm getting taken out constantly and extremely quickly by any and everybody no matter the weapon or user's skill 
FAIL.
Just remove aim assist from the game or I can see another 5 patches trying to get it right. |
howard sanchez
DUST University
Ivy League
676
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:41:00 -
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Hello wider forum trolling, faux rage quitting, QQ proficient, epeen enhanced DUST community,
Allow me to introduce myself,
I am the aforementioned 'nublet' who is incapable of aiming and successfully firing an ADS weapon in this game. I have, therefor, mostly used mass drivers and vehicles to earn almost 20 million SP while playing Dust since May2012.
I would like to thank CCP for thier efforts to effectively narrow the gap between twitchy teenagers and my arthritically aged limbs.
I shall commence to shootin yo face immediately.
Stand the F back kittens |
PEW JACKSON
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:48:00 -
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I lolled after I pre-heated my lazer and watched aim bot swipe across a red berry's head.
Switching from Battlefield Bad Company 2 aim mechanics to this has always been a headache...
I can do near perfect fine tune aiming as a recon in bc2, but fail to line up a shot in under 3 seconds here. |
8213
Grade No.2
219
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:50:00 -
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LOL
Controllers for consoles have always had some sort of Aim Assist for them. DUST's was just really bad, and had very poor hitbox sway, so you didn't notice it. I turned it off and on all the time, and didn't notice the difference, but I also play other shooters with a controller with no aim assist on.
Go back and play CoD, BF3, or any other shooter... turn off the aim assist for the game and see just how sh*tty you really are, lol
I think its needed because in DUST, controllers have to compete with KB&M, which isn't (nor ever will be) fair.
People will get used to it, the update is less than 12 hours old... |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University
Ivy League
119
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:55:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Aim Assist is a terrible, terrible idea in any FPS. CCP has stated in the past they want dust to be a "compeditive game" with build in e-sports (gladiator ring, gambling) but when aim assist is incorporated, that will always be an impossibility because the gameplay is no longer about skill.
Halo, COD 1,2,3,4 infinity, Black Ops 1/2, Battlefield 1,2,3,4, infinity...
All the console releases have aim assist. I think it's funny people complain about the aim assist here. Halo aim assist would actually move your reticule off your target if another enemy ran between you and the target. The reticule would follow your target shortly after they broke LOS as well. What we have here is a DS3 playerbase experiencing the joys of aim assist where there was previously no joy. That is a 100% increase in joy right there. Thus the DS3 base feels something is wrong and have reported themselves for using aim bots. The K/M playerbase is upset because they fundamentally don't understand proper console/gamepad shooter mechanics. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
73
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:57:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:To be fair all console shooters have some form of aim assist in them. Just some have the aim assistcranked up way too much.
I always turn it off, rather rely on my own eyes and reactions |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:00:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:This is terrible. Hate it! Before this aimbot, players with no skill had little to no chance of killing me, now I'm getting taken out constantly and extremely quickly by any and everybody no matter the weapon or user's skill FAIL. Just remove aim assist from the game so I can feel like I am good again, or I can see another 5 patches trying to get it right.
LMAO
So now you actually have to be a little more tatical in your game play. This is a bad thing?
I fixed that for you. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3537
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:02:00 -
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8213 wrote:Controllers for consoles have always had some sort of Aim Assist for them.
There are two types of aim assist.
Aim FRICTION, which we can't turn off, and auto-aim, which a lot of console games DON'T have, and which can be turned off.
The problem is that the latter type can be done WAY too heavy-handed at times... like now. We've complained about it in the past when it was LESS obnoxious than it is now. Why did they think this was a good idea? |
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LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
71
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:25:00 -
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aim assist ****** all the mass driver players, they can't do ****, I laugthed at them when they die way too fast b4 they can shoot |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
502
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:32:00 -
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I missed my target on purpose AND IT SNAPS ON TARGET. WHY WONT YOU LET ME MISS CCP?!?! |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
5709
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:33:00 -
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I have no problems with the "aimbot" |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
502
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:37:00 -
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Because KB/M. DS3 has disadvantage so aim assist helps compensate and stay competitive. But KB/M still wins.
-XOXO |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3540
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:41:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Because KB/M. DS3 has disadvantage so aim assist helps compensate and stay competitive. But KB/M still wins.
-XOXO
Except that the only real reason KB/M's "advantage" would be unfair is if they let you guys turn faster than us. They didn't.
Please make them tone down the aim assist. A lot. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
753
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:41:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Because KB/M. DS3 has disadvantage so aim assist helps compensate and stay competitive. But KB/M still wins.
-XOXO '
I'll bet my DS3 w/o aim assist vs a KB/M player any day... |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:14:00 -
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Why all the whining?? DS3 needs some aiming help. Enough with these HTFU purists, turn off Aim Assist if you don't like it. |
Meric Voyer
Universal Rogue Traders
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:17:00 -
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echo47 wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:This is terrible. Hate it! Before this aimbot, players with no skill had little to no chance of killing me, now I'm getting taken out constantly and extremely quickly by any and everybody no matter the weapon or user's skill FAIL. Just remove aim assist from the game so I can feel like I am good again, or I can see another 5 patches trying to get it right. LMAO So now you actually have to be a little more tatical in your game play. This is a bad thing? I fixed that for you.
Whatever. |
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