DUST Search - Kenetic Catalyzers

Toby Flenderson wrote:

Thang Bausch wrote:

If you're using nova knives, you need the speed for sure. But even with level 3 biotics and the Gallente scout suite (the slower of the two light suits), I run noticably faster than everyone else, particularly compared to armor tankers. You should be specing into the Minmatar light suite since it gives a bonus to nova knives and is faster.

I suspect that CCP made it hard to spec into kinetics because it gives a distinct advantage. Not sure though. Either way, it won't take too long to spec into them.

I had enough speed using minmatar assault so I never bothered with kinetics until I became interested in the light/scout suits. I not have enhanced kinetics catalyzers and run an enhanced light suits and I feel ridiculously fast. It's fast enough to do very well with a militia shotgun in many situations.

Out of curiosity I put the catalyzers on the minmatar assault and I was up to light/scout speed. I'm about to get the complex catalyzers, at which point I will feel like a jackass running around surpassing scouts with an assault suit.

My point is that I agree with Thang that speed is extremely important and I think it's a good thing CCP made it difficult to skill into. If it were as easy as shield extenders, then everyone would be running one and being as dodgy as light/scouts with twice the HP.

My advice would be to just grind for it. I decided to just get it out of the way and it was totally worth it. Getting the 5% from biotic upgrades is worth it enough but if you are willing to grind then kinetic catalyzers are an excellent choice.

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Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 111	Posted - 2013.09.03 18:31:00 - [1] - Quote So i have to get level 4 dropsuit which takes 200 SP and then i unlock biotics which i need level 5 so takes about 500 SP then i can skill into kenetic catalyzers??!?! this is stupid CCP you really make scouts useless in some cases.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 39	Posted - 2013.09.03 18:53:00 - [2] - Quote dropsuit is only x1 and biotics is only x2, so it doesn't take long to spec into Kinetics. The biotics gives you +1% for speed with each level so you will very quickly get a noticable speed increase. (the basic kinetic is 5% so you will have 10% as soon as you get basic kinetics) For now, I recommend you use a cardio regulator. I have one on the scout sniper I play occasionally. Combined with the extra speed of my scout suite and the +3% from the lvl 3 biotics, I don't fair too bad. I may not run like the wind yet, but I do run fast for a very long time even with a basic regulator. Would I want to sneak attack with a shotgun? not sure because I have not tried that build yet.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 111	Posted - 2013.09.03 18:57:00 - [3] - Quote I am a scout i don't need cardiac regulators and i need kenetic catalyzers because i use nova knives with toxic AR so i need the speed but CCP hates scouts so i can't get my kenetic catalyzers.
Rynoceros Rise of Old Dudes 643	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:00:00 - [4] - Quote I spent quite a while getting to Complex Kin Catz. ****** love 'em. Well worth it.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 111	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:02:00 - [5] - Quote -.-
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 40	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:02:00 - [6] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I am a scout i don't need cardiac regulators and i need kenetic catalyzers because i use nova knives with toxic AR so i need the speed but CCP hates scouts so i can't get my kenetic catalyzers. If you're using nova knives, you need the speed for sure. But even with level 3 biotics and the Gallente scout suite (the slower of the two light suits), I run noticably faster than everyone else, particularly compared to armor tankers. You should be specing into the Minmatar light suite since it gives a bonus to nova knives and is faster. I suspect that CCP made it hard to spec into kinetics because it gives a distinct advantage. Not sure though. Either way, it won't take too long to spec into them.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 40	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:03:00 - [7] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I spent quite a while getting to Complex Kin Catz. ****** love 'em. Well worth it. I personally cannot wait until my minmator logi suite can run like the wind :)
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 40	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:06:00 - [8] - Quote Another thing: the kinetics take an obscene amount of PG. The basic is something like 10-15 CPU and 10 PG. You may need to spec into engineering to increase the PG of your suit enough to fit one without sacrificing other slots. Then again, the AR is a low PG consumer so you might be okay. The sniper rifle consumes a lot of PG, so I would not be able to fit a kinetic on my sniper fit even if I wanted to (the cardio is more beneficial for that basic fit I think.)
Toby Flenderson research lab The Superpowers 5	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:13:00 - [9] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: If you're using nova knives, you need the speed for sure. But even with level 3 biotics and the Gallente scout suite (the slower of the two light suits), I run noticably faster than everyone else, particularly compared to armor tankers. You should be specing into the Minmatar light suite since it gives a bonus to nova knives and is faster. I suspect that CCP made it hard to spec into kinetics because it gives a distinct advantage. Not sure though. Either way, it won't take too long to spec into them. I had enough speed using minmatar assault so I never bothered with kinetics until I became interested in the light/scout suits. I not have enhanced kinetics catalyzers and run an enhanced light suits and I feel ridiculously fast. It's fast enough to do very well with a militia shotgun in many situations. Out of curiosity I put the catalyzers on the minmatar assault and I was up to light/scout speed. I'm about to get the complex catalyzers, at which point I will feel like a jackass running around surpassing scouts with an assault suit. My point is that I agree with Thang that speed is extremely important and I think it's a good thing CCP made it difficult to skill into. If it were as easy as shield extenders, then everyone would be running one and being as dodgy as light/scouts with twice the HP. My advice would be to just grind for it. I decided to just get it out of the way and it was totally worth it. Getting the 5% from biotic upgrades is worth it enough but if you are willing to grind then kinetic catalyzers are an excellent choice.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 111	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:14:00 - [10] - Quote I got engineering level 2 and CPU

Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 111	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:15:00 - [11] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: If you're using nova knives, you need the speed for sure. But even with level 3 biotics and the Gallente scout suite (the slower of the two light suits), I run noticably faster than everyone else, particularly compared to armor tankers. You should be specing into the Minmatar light suite since it gives a bonus to nova knives and is faster. I suspect that CCP made it hard to spec into kinetics because it gives a distinct advantage. Not sure though. Either way, it won't take too long to spec into them. I had enough speed using minmatar assault so I never bothered with kinetics until I became interested in the light/scout suits. I not have enhanced kinetics catalyzers and run an enhanced light suits and I feel ridiculously fast. It's fast enough to do very well with a militia shotgun in many situations. Out of curiosity I put the catalyzers on the minmatar assault and I was up to light/scout speed. I'm about to get the complex catalyzers, at which point I will feel like a jackass running around surpassing scouts with an assault suit. My point is that I agree with Thang that speed is extremely important and I think it's a good thing CCP made it difficult to skill into. If it were as easy as shield extenders, then everyone would be running one and being as dodgy as light/scouts with twice the HP. My advice would be to just grind for it. I decided to just get it out of the way and it was totally worth it. Getting the 5% from biotic upgrades is worth it enough but if you are willing to grind then kinetic catalyzers are an excellent choice. CCP did made it super hard to get kenetic catalyzers
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 40	Posted - 2013.09.03 19:17:00 - [12] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I got engineering level 2 and CPU those two are expensive, but invaluable to level into. Like the dropsuit Armor and Shield, they are useful regardless of what build you aim for. Biotics is the same. having seen the benefit of just +3% on my mini-logi, I would recommend everyone but dedicated heavies spec into biotics.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 468	Posted - 2013.09.03 20:07:00 - [13] - Quote Get ur kinetics to 3 for a bit an then save sp an maybe do the same for cardiacs one of each works good, not sure about this build yet but last build I stopped using them entirely because of the hotbox lagging wit speed


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