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Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:26:00 -
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Sense you turned off the info about the health of every one else but the one you are pointing you X on the LOgi don't have a clue who to rep. This needs to be turned back on 4 the repair tool. ( when taking your gun back on then let it be as it is now) Otherwise it's just no point in doing armor reps 4 ppl at al.
This kind of blows 4 us dedicated logistics
Regards |
Jack Kittinger
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.03 18:08:00 -
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Join the cause! We need this fixed! |
Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.03 18:26:00 -
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Exactly. The HP bar removal is bullshit we never asked for it and makes Logi's job harder than it is.
It's also a ninja nerf to Heavy. Sometimes a team has plenty of Logis but I'm left alone because it's hard for them to figure out who needs reps. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.03 18:41:00 -
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I made a thread about this a week ago and they blew it off |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:03:00 -
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Great make the logi work twice as hard please. Seriously if you have a logi suit you should be aible to see your team mates HP bars. |
S Park Finner
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:20:00 -
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I strongly support some 3d HUD and mini-map mechanisms for spotting team mates in need of repair. In the current system not only identifying them but keeping track of them while yo manoeuvre is much more difficult than it was in the past and limits logistics players ability to generate skill points even more than limits on repairing has in the past. |
Jack Kittinger
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:25:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I made a thread about this a week ago and they blew it off
wow...wait... WHA...??
a week ago we didn't have this problem... |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:03:00 -
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C? I pointed this in half an hour after announcing patch notes...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1211113#post1211113
And now forum's qq mode engaged  |
Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:03:00 -
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Merge the threads... They are about the same problem. Didn't c the other one
Regards |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:55:00 -
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Jack Kittinger wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I made a thread about this a week ago and they blew it off wow...wait... WHA...?? a week ago we didn't have this problem...
I was unsure about how the new vision system would work when they released the patch notes, but I made a post to the DEVs concerned that it might hinder us logtistics. CCP Logibro even posted saying that he agreed, but that it needed to be moved to feedback and not be in general discussions.
So now the patch is here and I'm proved right. The new system hinders us. |
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Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:42:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Jack Kittinger wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I made a thread about this a week ago and they blew it off wow...wait... WHA...?? a week ago we didn't have this problem... I was unsure about how the new vision system would work when they released the patch notes, but I made a post to the DEVs concerned that it might hinder us logtistics. CCP Logibro even posted saying that he agreed, but that it needed to be moved to feedback and not be in general discussions. So now the patch is here and I'm proved right. The new system hinders us.
What the hell. If some ppl hade a foresight about this, wy the **** did not CCP look into it before they killed the reptool.
I just want a respec so I can take al my sp from LOgi and putt them into assault...... This I a ******* joke CCP.
Help us logistics ffs. It's even pointless to revive ppl now with the dam aim assist.... If you run out to try to rep or revive some one you are dead in less than a sec. |
Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:28:00 -
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Buff |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 11:14:00 -
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Add HP bar when the Rep tool is equipped, just like ranged to pick up with the needle.
Makes the 2 target tool slightly better, but its still a load of crap needing to target every one to even be able to tell if they need healing. As long as they fix it by 1.5 Ill try not to complain too much. (Not that I won't complain at all)
Remember these points;
- CONSTRUCTIVE criticism we need to push hard on this issue.
- It seems like every other patch they break a significant function those of us who play Logistics rely on to play the game, so keep the threads alive and share them with your friends and corp
- There is NO LOGISTICS CPM so to get our point through we need to stay on topic with multiple posts in all appropriate sections of the forums.
Stay strong, Logi On! |
Luke Vetri
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
120
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:13:00 -
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Lots of good threads on this topic, totally agree, first the needle now the reptool, please reassess the priority on fixing this |
NOAMIzzzzz
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:18:00 -
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I WANT MY REPS BACK errr merr gerrd lonely heavy is lonely. |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:36:00 -
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lol i agree i think that visual should be exclusive to logi suits so when you are on a logi suit no matter what tier yous saw hp bars but otherwise no...i also would like logi lav with sensors with a logi in them with an injector should be able to see res icons while running scanners within scan radius..i would like outline body imprint through terrain for such advanced log scan means but who knows if ccp will do it |
Dante Vento
Firefly Shipping co.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:56:00 -
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Re-Prioritize this please! |
Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:40:00 -
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Buffing it.
I have dropped the reptool now... For the scanner that gives me 0 points... However my squad loves me for it...
Said it before saying it again logi is about 2 die in this game.
We dedicated logistics need you the community or do you fell that the logi class should be abandoned al together? |
Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:47:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Sense you turned off the info about the health of every one else but the one you are pointing you X on the LOgi don't have a clue who to rep. This needs to be turned back on 4 the repair tool. ( when taking your gun back on then let it be as it is now) Otherwise it's just no point in doing armor reps 4 ppl at al.
This kind of blows 4 us dedicated logistics
Regards
I didn't realize how annoying this would be until I actually played yesterday. This along with the inability to see squad member names through objects is TERRIBAD.
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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
493
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:59:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Sense you turned off the info about the health of every one else but the one you are pointing you X on the LOgi don't have a clue who to rep. This needs to be turned back on 4 the repair tool. ( when taking your gun back on then let it be as it is now) Otherwise it's just no point in doing armor reps 4 ppl at al.
This kind of blows 4 us dedicated logistics
Regards
No point proto logi see absolutely no problem where you see a huge one. Enjoy the game deal with it is a change that isn't destroying the game. |
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Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.05 12:16:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Sense you turned off the info about the health of every one else but the one you are pointing you X on the LOgi don't have a clue who to rep. This needs to be turned back on 4 the repair tool. ( when taking your gun back on then let it be as it is now) Otherwise it's just no point in doing armor reps 4 ppl at al.
This kind of blows 4 us dedicated logistics
Regards No point proto logi see absolutely no problem where you see a huge one. Enjoy the game deal with it is a change that isn't destroying the game.
What did you just type?
My English is crap so u must clarify your post!
Where I c a huge one?????? ( now I want to troll but I won't )
Not a huge change ????
For the logi I state the current change is a change that almost renders the logi unnessesery
Should I change game style...,? Yes bro I already did, to bad I have 8 Miljon sp in logi stuff that is broken. ( or at lest I state it's broken.)
However you are free to have your opinion bro I give you that. But I TOTALY disagree with your post ( or at lest I believe I do )
Regards
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Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
272
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:04:00 -
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The rep tool has always been useless unless you want to save a tank, LAV or DS from a ball of flames. Don't use it on mercs drop a triage hive instead. If you use a rep tool on me I will (attempt to) Team Kill YOU! |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:22:00 -
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not being able to see people's health bar unless your aiming at them has definitely made it more difficult and more tedious (hence less enjoyable) to be a logi. It won't bother me too much for the next handful of days because I've more or less stopped playing my logi fit because of the 3000 sp cap for the x2 skill points event. |
Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:19:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:The rep tool has always been useless unless you want to save a tank, LAV or DS from a ball of flames. Don't use it on mercs drop a triage hive instead. If you use a rep tool on me I will (attempt to) Team Kill YOU!
Regardless of my HP, I would rather you use your gun on the enemy than heal me while I am under fire, while I am stalking an enemy or while an enemy is visible. Protip: Rep tools take space in your hands which are better occupied by holding a gun.
lol. You are a assault in a Logi suit bro.
And hell yeah I shoot at stuff when needed.... Then I rep..drop hives...uplink ( now scan ) etc etc.
However in 1,4 I don't bother any longer... I just went AR and assault full time in my PROTO Logi suit.
Reps blow, injector blows, hives blows, scanner is great... no it does not give points...so it blows.
AR with stacked damage mods are the thing now.....nothing else realy matter.
lol in al honestly the game is mutch like call of duty now.... And that game blows. |
Piraten Hovnoret
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:34:00 -
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Bump |
TcuBe3
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:50:00 -
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I think "useless" is an over statement. The tool still works...
I do agree fix this.
+1 |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
302
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Posted - 2013.09.08 14:26:00 -
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The rep tool isn't broken. Spent about an hour playing with it yesterday. It is quite easy to see that you are healing someone or not. There is no need to lock onto someone with it to see their health. The rep tool is still useless though. This has been the case since Uprising 1.0. Triage hives are much more effective at keeping guys up and walking around. The reason they are useless is that while you rep someone you cannot defend yourself. If dps is turned on the person you are repping there is a good chance they will die before they are healed and then with your rep tool in hand and dps on your poor logibro butt you will die just as quick.
LogiBro for Life! -- ProtoLogi since Uprising 1.0 |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
77
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:15:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:The rep tool isn't broken. Spent about an hour playing with it yesterday. It is quite easy to see that you are healing someone or not. There is no need to lock onto someone with it to see their health. The rep tool is still useless though. This has been the case since Uprising 1.0. Triage hives are much more effective at keeping guys up and walking around. The reason they are useless is that while you rep someone you cannot defend yourself. If dps is turned on the person you are repping there is a good chance they will die before they are healed and then with your rep tool in hand and dps on your poor logibro butt you will die just as quick.
LogiBro for Life! -- ProtoLogi since Uprising 1.0
I'd agree in both respects, to a point. I've also been more of a hive than rep tool guy, myself. Always saw it as more of a niche thing for after a hotspot gets cleared out because you are usually too vulnerable with that in your hand instead of a gun andthere are always other things to spend your CPU/PG on. However, there are certainly some advantages over triage hives in that its a mobile solution and unlimited use so I wouldn't totally blow it off like others have.
Anyway, more to the point, I was using it some last night, and its not exactly broken. Annoying, for sure. It definitely takes a second or two to wade through the crowd and find who needs the rep. They way I've always used it (sparingly) it doesn't destroy it's value IMHO.
Personally, what bothers me more is that this is the result of CCP finding a "solution" to a problem that didn't exist. |
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