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Tyrionn Callazar wrote:

Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:

Tyrionn Callazar wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Tyrionn Callazar wrote:

There is a thin line between being faithful and blinding fanaticism.
If you fight for ISK or for faith, you should tread either path carefully.

Neither is a bad thing if applied correctly to a scenario.

I would rather be blind than some hedonistic Gallentean lap dog of the Senate spouting his hypocritical ideals of freedom and liberty.

You My friend live by false ideals, such as that of being superior than others, this will be de down fall of the Empire because it is just a matter of time before others just like the Minmatar rise against the oppression of the Empire.
You dare call members of the Federation dogs? When you and your Amarr counter parts are the ones that do the Empire's bidding without questioning it and do so happily. Members of the Empire are the true slaves. no better than dogs.

The Empire has existed in more or less its current form for thousands of years, soldier. No other of the four great powers can say as much.

If it were just a "matter of time," the time should long since have come and gone. Even the Minmatar uprising required not one, but two major outside actors to provide the opportunity: the Jove at Vak'Atioth and the Gallente who armed the Matari.

The stability of the Empire is a great merit, but a sad truth for those who would prefer to evade its control: once under its sway, few cultures have pulled free.

"Rights" and "freedoms" are historical anomalies, soldier. Humanity has spent most of its history under one autocratic system or another. It remains to be seen whether democracy is robust enough to withstand the trials of history, but Amarrian feudalism has already stood the test of time long enough that it is foolish to expect it to collapse under its own weight.

Rights and freedom are not anomalies, they are the very heart of every society and without rights or freedom we become anything but pawns to those who subjugate us.
It was the Empire's arrogance that lead to humiliating loss to the Jove.

Even though the Empire may never collapse it will change if it is to have a place in this Modern Era.


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Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 24	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:25:00 - [1] - Quote I'm personally fine with the Minmitar till it said they will hate The Amarr FOREVER, fun fact btw during the FW Event it went from Gallente nairly beating Caldari & Minmitar practically ruling Amarr to Caldari & Amarr had basically conquerored both entirely in a matter of a few days....
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 31	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:50:00 - [2] - Quote Tyrionn Callazar wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Tyrionn Callazar wrote: True Adamance wrote: Tyrionn Callazar wrote: There is a thin line between being faithful and blinding fanaticism. If you fight for ISK or for faith, you should tread either path carefully. Neither is a bad thing if applied correctly to a scenario. I would rather be blind than some hedonistic Gallentean lap dog of the Senate spouting his hypocritical ideals of freedom and liberty. You My friend live by false ideals, such as that of being superior than others, this will be de down fall of the Empire because it is just a matter of time before others just like the Minmatar rise against the oppression of the Empire. You dare call members of the Federation dogs? When you and your Amarr counter parts are the ones that do the Empire's bidding without questioning it and do so happily. Members of the Empire are the true slaves. no better than dogs. The Empire has existed in more or less its current form for thousands of years, soldier. No other of the four great powers can say as much. If it were just a "matter of time," the time should long since have come and gone. Even the Minmatar uprising required not one, but two major outside actors to provide the opportunity: the Jove at Vak'Atioth and the Gallente who armed the Matari. The stability of the Empire is a great merit, but a sad truth for those who would prefer to evade its control: once under its sway, few cultures have pulled free. "Rights" and "freedoms" are historical anomalies, soldier. Humanity has spent most of its history under one autocratic system or another. It remains to be seen whether democracy is robust enough to withstand the trials of history, but Amarrian feudalism has already stood the test of time long enough that it is foolish to expect it to collapse under its own weight. Rights and freedom are not anomalies, they are the very heart of every society and without rights or freedom we become anything but pawns to those who subjugate us. It was the Empire's arrogance that lead to humiliating loss to the Jove. Even though the Empire may never collapse it will change if it is to have a place in this Modern Era. Actually you are incorrect, prior to the attack The Amarr were very ready & quite possibly could've won. As The Amarr weren't playing & brought they're best literally. However The Jove value information highly & got into The Amarr battle information regarding the attack The Jove found out every attack, who was with who, they're skill set, how they were squaded, reactions & first attack, each squads goal, & literally everything weeks if not months before the ones launching & doing the attack even got the plans & orders themselves The Jove prepared & the second The Amarr came it was a extremely well prepared planned trap/defence/counter-attack by The Jove leading to a very easy win for them & The Amarr basically enetered a fast agreement that they wouldn't attack The Jove & The Jove basically replied sure np whatever & went about they're business. To this date not 1 race has attacked The Jove yet.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 32	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:09:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: [quote=True Adamance][quote=Tyrionn Callazar][quote=True Adamance] Whilst certainly there is some ignorance and perhaps even corruption within the Federation, that isn't necessarily why people support it. Of course there are flaws - Every society has its flaws, yours included. That's the way of things. The Federation is about people making their own way through life, free of significant state obligation or major religious influence. You can certainly choose to see it as an 'ignorant and corrupted society', as there's some truth in that, but it's hardly fair to dismiss the only truly free society in New Eden as simply that. I'd also like to know why you consider our values of freedom hypocritical. Do you mean to say we're figuratively slaves to the political system? I do find much of the extremism that my fellow Gallenteans tend to exhibit rather tiresome though. Patriotic they may be, but blind verbal attacks against other empires only reinforces the sad perception of us as an 'ignorant' society. To answer that 1 question as already spoken all governments if not realigions are somewhat corrupt or previously corrupt in history or both or off & on. But though The Gallente has multiple good points some of it you stated but some of it's higher up people are indeed corrupt & people if not both Gallente & Minmitar question if The Federation is just using The Minmitar ,most recently in news a certain Senator of Gallente proclaimed Minmitar possibly "untrustworthy" this relates to A Minmitar Brutus being in jail for quote by the Minmitar "defending himself" & killed multiple Gallente people The Federation wouldn't release him so minmitar showed up in Gallente space in Dregnaughts & a battle occured & I think theirs more about (this is if i'm accurate about this news)
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 32	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:19:00 - [4] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: Actually you are incorrect, prior to the attack The Amarr were very ready & quite possibly could've won. As The Amarr weren't playing & brought they're best literally. However The Jove value information highly & got into The Amarr battle information regarding the attack The Jove found out every attack, who was with who, they're skill set, how they were squaded, reactions & first attack, each squads goal, & literally everything weeks if not months before the ones launching & doing the attack even got the plans & orders themselves The Jove prepared & the second The Amarr came it was a extremely well prepared planned trap/defence/counter-attack by The Jove leading to a very easy win for them & The Amarr basically enetered a fast agreement that they wouldn't attack The Jove & The Jove basically replied sure np whatever & went about they're business. To this date not 1 race has attacked The Jove yet. That and the scary doomsday beam that took out a battleship in one shot. No Empire had that capability at the time. If that is what they were willing to show, or at least had back then, then an attacker would have to consider what they have developed since. Actually it was actually quite into the battle when it happened & that ship had damage prior to getting hit by The Jove Mothership showing up to for the final part of The Jove's Plan basically to conclude the fight & Those Amarr ships had crazy fire apocolypse beams themselves they were the best Amarr had, a type prototype but because The Jove were ready & had gave it as well as the rest of The Amarr Fleet a Falcon Punch it was easy to conclude it with a Jove Mothership & it's purpose I assume was not only to conclude the fight but aspire a fear that The 4 Empires were inferior in technology to The Jove so no 1 would attack again or they did plan to they would think twice but in reality I assume if all 4 Empires united against The Jove, The Jove would be a bit.... worried
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 32	Posted - 2013.10.30 21:11:00 - [5] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Like it says I use to be a Minmatar supporter how because I personally could relate but I was soon reborn as a pure Amarrian/Kameira clone to send death to all non-believers but I still hold true to my Minmatar ways. So you've adopted the faith of your slave-master. Eat up dog, these boot heels won't lick themselves. Ah I recall you from my post about The Amarr Holy Scriptures in the Dust Fiction section Ubuu. I'll tell you once more the Minmitar were kept from.... being jerks you might say by Slaver Hounds & so what does that make you Ubuu? A fluffy kitty? Infact I can see you as a kitty now & a woman saying in baby talk "come here Ubuu, come here Ubuu, Kitty Kitty" your name does sound like a cat's name anyway.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 32	Posted - 2013.10.30 21:20:00 - [6] - Quote Also 1 can argue The Amarr & Minmitar conflict runs far deeper then the Gallente & Caldari conflict as it hits multiple areas where the Caldari & Gallente conflict hits less areas but both conflicts are still serious in they're own way.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 32	Posted - 2013.10.30 21:25:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: [quote=Jonny D Buelle][quote=Yun Hee Ryeon]Mr. Buelle: And why should a God show itself. The purpose of the Faith is to believe, not to know for a certainty. Its is my Faith that armours me from doubt so that I do not fear the darkness of New Eden, nor do I know the uncertainties that the heathens do. Their is wisdom to be seen in that statement.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 42	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:51:00 - [8] - Quote Also The Amarr under the rule of Empress Jamyl, released a couple million or so servants. After they did so the Caldari followed up on it on free will & set-up a "Former-Slave Training program" to help the former servants be ready to get jobs & etc. thus the servants returned to The Republic I assume. The Amarr also sent the Caldari a large care package under The Empress's rule & helped stabalize & aid The Caldari economy which helped aid the funding of things such as the Former-Slave Training program. Also during a incident (forgot the name began with a S I think) The Amarr sent the Gallente also ALOT of ISK to directly aid them. All under the rule of The Amarr Empress :) - the arguement the Amarr are all bad is incorrect.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 42	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:54:00 - [9] - Quote Need proof you say of what I speak? https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Jamyl_Sarum Here you are read thy self