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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.01 06:53:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Like it says I use to be a Minmatar supporter how because I personally could relate but I was soon reborn as a pure Amarrian/Kameira clone to send death to all non-believers but I still hold true to my Minmatar ways.
Ave Chosen. We are honoured to fight beside you. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.01 07:50:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:And this interests me how? Its not designed to entertain you Mr Kalamari. Faith is something to be praised. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.01 08:24:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:True Adamance wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:And this interests me how? Its not designed to entertain you Mr Kalamari. Faith is something to be praised. My entertainment is not the point, shouting every petty little event that happens, regardless of race or corporation is my point. This is the Intergalactic Summit, not the Intergalactic Notice Board Unfortunately we seem to have no really issue to discuss at this moment.
Perhaps the Reclaiming, Perhaps Operation Highlander, but until more is released to the presses we can do little more than speculate. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.01 20:56:00 -
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Tyrionn Callazar wrote:There is a thin line between being faithful and blinding fanaticism. If you fight for ISK or for faith, you should tread either path carefully. Neither is a bad thing if applied correctly to a scenario.
I would rather be blind than some hedonistic Gallentean lap dog of the Senate spouting his hypocritical ideals of freedom and liberty. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.07 00:14:00 -
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Tyrionn Callazar wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tyrionn Callazar wrote:There is a thin line between being faithful and blinding fanaticism. If you fight for ISK or for faith, you should tread either path carefully. Neither is a bad thing if applied correctly to a scenario. I would rather be blind than some hedonistic Gallentean lap dog of the Senate spouting his hypocritical ideals of freedom and liberty. You My friend live by false ideals, such as that of being superior than others, this will be de down fall of the Empire because it is just a matter of time before others just like the Minmatar rise against the oppression of the Empire. You dare call members of the Federation dogs? When you and your Amarr counter parts are the ones that do the Empire's bidding without questioning it and do so happily. Members of the Empire are the true slaves. no better than dogs.
We do the Lord's work heathen. I do not think and ignorant of corrupt people like yours could understand the natre of God. However there is still hope for the Minmatar, why do you use and corrupt them so.
They are like children. They need a firm hand in how they are raise, for they too are God's chosen people.
It it not a false ideal to believe I am superior to you, though this is not how I see it. I just see myself as closer to God, no better or worse than the most pious saint, or debased sinner.
We are all God's children. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:57:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:oh and by the way the test of time isn't a test. in the right hands it is a gift. time can erode and destroy mountains or it can produce a beautiful Forest. the lack of time threw the republic into a major war between galactic superpowers. while the ample time made the empire the most politically and economically stable society with the most sectors.
Indeed it is. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:08:00 -
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Clips A'hoy wrote:Excellent... another soul reclaimed by God, blessings upon you brother. I too was once Minmatar but I am no longer that, I'm Ammatar serving the empire for good in the name of God.
May you fight beside us and our holy empress or you will rule the day you were born. (( YUS Great RP choice ))
It is good to see the Ammatar committing soldiers to the fight. God be with you Chosen. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:01:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:I fight for Amarr in because i don't want to betray the empire after choosing my race ( i didn't even know what the empire fought for at the time) i really think the federation has the right ideas. (democracy,freedom of religion,even an immigrant can become wealthy in the federation.) In the end im just staying loyal and not changing sides. Im proud to be amarr also Except as in reality that never happens. The weak don't rise to become the top players, the strong always remain the strong. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:48:00 -
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Templar Twelve wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote: Another reason to stay loyal to the empire
One does not need reason to be loyal to the Empress. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all; When thine heart shines with the Light, thou shalt know no hardship; When thine actions are in Light's name, thou art immortal.GÇÖ" - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:1 As you say Templar.
It is a blessed thing to know ones purpose and revel in that holy designation.
"And the Lord spoke to him from the heavens, Described to him his holy purpose, Bestowed upon him the wisdom, Of Gods holy embrace." - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First 2:8 |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:40:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:So let me get this straight. You surrendered being a Matari merc and instead decided to join up with the Empire that enslaved your people for hundreds of years all because you found religion?
Well I guess some people like to be whipped to death by their slave drivers...
Again another ignorant slob shows up.
The unkind treatment of slaves has been a crime since the later years of the reign of Emperor Heideran, after he was offered the Aldonis Statue for his role in galactic peacekeeping.
Nocturnal firstly is not old enough to have known a time where the Amarr did beat their slaves, secondly it is something to be ashamed of to find a religion or a cause to fight for. |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.28 19:57:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:So let me get this straight. You surrendered being a Matari merc and instead decided to join up with the Empire that enslaved your people for hundreds of years all because you found religion?
Well I guess some people like to be whipped to death by their slave drivers... Again another ignorant slob shows up. The unkind treatment of slaves has been a crime since the later years of the reign of Emperor Heideran, after he was offered the Aldonis Statue for his role in galactic peacekeeping. Nocturnal firstly is not old enough to have known a time where the Amarr did beat their slaves, secondly it is something to be ashamed of to find a religion or a cause to fight for. So they brain washed you too I see... I do understand the need to find a cause to fight, however religion is one of those false ideals that will always instill hate and war amongst people. I could say I believe in a God that is totally different from yours and you will try and convert me which will cause me to hate you and take out my submachine gun and show you your insides. Fighting for religion will not bring peace, but will create more hatred.
Brainwashing is the unfaithful's last line of defence before they accept that there are those who choose to believe for the sake of believing.
I would not try to convert you, I would seek to educate you, neither of which should generate hate unless you make that your business and thus condemn yourself of your own volition.
If you were to pull a weapon on me, It would not matter that I die, only that I am martyred in the service of the Lord. If it came to that on the battlefield you would have to tear open an iron shell to find me, a job I think you will find rather difficult alone.
As I have said. Fighting for my religion means I am to bring the tenets and aspects of God to the furthest reaches of the stars. Unending forgiveness to the innocent, righteous fury to traitors, heretics, and rebels, and the Light of justice and truth to all humankind.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 03:20:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Clips A'hoy wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:So let me get this straight. You surrendered being a Matari merc and instead decided to join up with the Empire that enslaved your people for hundreds of years all because you found religion?
Well I guess some people like to be whipped to death by their slave drivers... Again another ignorant slob shows up. The unkind treatment of slaves has been a crime since the later years of the reign of Emperor Heideran, after he was offered the Aldonis Statue for his role in galactic peacekeeping. Nocturnal firstly is not old enough to have known a time where the Amarr did beat their slaves, secondly it is something to be ashamed of to find a religion or a cause to fight for. So they brain washed you too I see... I do understand the need to find a cause to fight, however religion is one of those false ideals that will always instill hate and war amongst people. I could say I believe in a God that is totally different from yours and you will try and convert me which will cause me to hate you and take out my submachine gun and show you your insides. Fighting for religion will not bring peace, but will create more hatred. This is no false ideal. You see the signs but you ignore them and that is the gravest sin of all. Do not talk blasphemy towards God or you will regret it at both death and on the battlefield. My God and your God are different, if I blaspheme towards your God it should not hinder the standing with my God which should be the God of all mercs. That God being the all powerful and mighty Gun, and I pay tribute to my God by spilling blood and earning ISK. Then you are a heretic. I care not for your heathen gods as you would call them. I will punish you for turning your back on our one true God. A God that stands for something as meaningless as ISK is not god.
As I have said there is only one, true god, and He has chosen the Amarr.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 03:40:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:I've been seeing a lot of anti-amarr statements here mainly from gallente mercs and i must say. If you are going to talk trash against the empire you must understand the conflict between the matari and the amarr is different compared to the blood bath of wars your kind fights against the caldari. It is different because we are not attacking because of hate. We are attacking truly because we are trying to teach the matari and make them more civilized race. If they desire to come to the side of the amarr then let it be. We will accept them not just kill them mercilessly because they are a different race. Indeed. This has been said many times by our people, yet nobody bothers to try to understand. Its is a shame.
I am vindicated in the knowledge that my servant remains cared for, treated fairly, given education, and brought into a world where she understands she is loved by a God of great benevolence and kindness.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 20:13:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:
How did I turn my back on your God if I never believed in him? I have known of him, yes, but I have never believed nor followed the dogma instilled by your people. Ergo, I never turned my back on him. However if you believe that you must attempt to punish me, my machine gun and I would love to see you try.
As for my God of ISK and War being meaningless, in our world of immortality what else do we have left to gain but ISK. We have no need for an afterlife as we never die, so we must live in what we need now.
"There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10
The signs are there and you have even unwittingly renounced the lord God. There are not greys here, only those who believe and those who do not. Those willing to believe may yet be given the chance to repent their sins and come into God's kingdom.
"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Again our scriptures say that it is the gravest sin to know of God yet to reject him.
As you say it is possible that you have not truly renounced him, thus I put it to you now.
Will you submit to the graces of God and acknowledge him as the Almighty power he is? Would you come to love him as he loves you even now sinner?
If not then I shall hunt you. My 500 tonne machinegun says your weak convictions and barbaric projectile weapons shall not harm me.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 20:21:00 -
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Clips A'hoy wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:
How did I turn my back on your God if I never believed in him? I have known of him, yes, but I have never believed nor followed the dogma instilled by your people. Ergo, I never turned my back on him. However if you believe that you must attempt to punish me, my machine gun and I would love to see you try.
As for my God of ISK and War being meaningless, in our world of immortality what else do we have left to gain but ISK. We have no need for an afterlife as we never die, so we must live in what we need now.
"There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 The signs are there and you have even unwittingly renounced the lord God. There are not greys here, only those who believe and those who do not. Those willing to believe may yet be given the chance to repent their sins and come into God's kingdom. "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 Again our scriptures say that it is the gravest sin to know of God yet to reject him. As you say it is possible that you have not truly renounced him, thus I put it to you now. Will you submit to the graces of God and acknowledge him as the Almighty power he is? Would you come to love him as he loves you even now sinner? If not then I shall hunt you. My 500 tonne machinegun says your weak convictions and barbaric projectile weapons shall not harm me. Glory to you, brother, for you speak truth. It is in his best interest to repent and join the light. May God and Jamyl Sarum bless and light your path.
Amarr Victor, Amarr Resurgent.
We will Reclaim the stars for God, Empire, and the divine light of the Empress.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 20:43:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Mr. Buelle:
With all respect to Tempar Crusader Ouryon, he does tend to draw the word "heretic" maybe a bit quickly. My impression is that he's spent pretty much all his life surrounded by other believers, so his first impulse upon encountering a blasphemous sort is to think, "heretic." After all, in a highly religious society such as the Empire, we heathens are relatively thin on the ground.
As for your god of ISK and war, I think-- I hope-- that what you're actually saying is that you see no real divinity in this world. There's a lot of despair, come to think of it, reflected even in the suggestion, half-joking or not, that we should worship these things that superficially define us.
What an empty existence that would be.... The heretic is the unrepentant soul who does not believe Ms Ryeon.
This is an absolute. This man told me to my face that he blasphemes against my God. Heretic is an apt label.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:02:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Mr. Buelle:
With all respect to Tempar Crusader Ouryon, he does tend to draw the word "heretic" maybe a bit quickly. My impression is that he's spent pretty much all his life surrounded by other believers, so his first impulse upon encountering a blasphemous sort is to think, "heretic." After all, in a highly religious society such as the Empire, we heathens are relatively thin on the ground.
As for your god of ISK and war, I think-- I hope-- that what you're actually saying is that you see no real divinity in this world. There's a lot of despair, come to think of it, reflected even in the suggestion, half-joking or not, that we should worship these things that superficially define us.
What an empty existence that would be.... I do not worship war nor money nor death. It was all in jest. However I understand that to survive we must earn ISK and to earn it we must fight, and die. So by me saying that my god is War and ISK is me trying to reason with him that I do not believe in any god that doesn't provide. War provides me ISK and ISK provides me with my housing, my weapons, my dropsuits, food and many other things that would be otherwise out of my reach. This is the reality that I have to face and I have no need to put my hopes in a God that does not show his/herself to me nor provides for me. Then you came of as lacking reason.
To jest at ones devoutly held belief is not reasonable, it is beneath you, and only sullies you name.
And why should a God show itself. The purpose of the Faith is to believe, not to know for a certainty. Its is my Faith that armours me from doubt so that I do not fear the darkness of New Eden, nor do I know the uncertainties that the heathens do.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:20:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote: I jest at everything. It keeps me from going off the deep end and murdering mortals.
As if I needed another reason to hunt you.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:42:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote: As if I needed another reason to hunt you.
I welcome the challenge You should not treat mortals like playthings.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:11:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:True Adamance wrote:The heretic is the unrepentant soul who does not believe Ms Ryeon.
This is an absolute. This man told me to my face that he blasphemes against my God. Heretic is an apt label. Templar Crusader, respectfully, I, too, have been known to make some pointed remarks about the Amarrian deity, or any thinking being that would create this universe. This world we live in erodes innocence, sneers at high ideals, and is utterly indifferent to justice. While I see this universe as a thing of wonder and beauty, it is also so much a thing of pain for the sentient and, worse, sapient beings that dwell in it that any sapient god responsible for its creation would be a thing of horror. The name of the Angel Cartel is, to my mind, less ironic than grimly appropriate: mercenary cutthroats, hijackers and drug smugglers would make apt messengers for the god of this world. For all this, and despite all the dark or blasphemous things I may have to say about your god, or any god seeking the title of "creator," I cannot fairly be described as a heretic in your faith because my system of belief is entirely different from yours. I do not represent a corruption of your faith because I share somewhere between very few and absolutely none of its precepts. That's what a heathen is, an outsider and unbeliever. We do not become heretics merely by making unflattering remarks about your faith, or there would be few who do not already believe who were capable of being saved. To think otherwise is to make no distinction between a Sani cultist and a Gallentean atheist; both will mock your faith, but only the Sani represents a corruption of it. The Gallentean's beliefs originate elsewhere entirely.
Perhaps it does, but to those of pure Faith we are able to stand against such erosion, keeping the Darkness at bay with our Faith. There high ideals you speak of are not what we consider our Faith to be. Such ideals when compared to the existence of God are but mere component parts of what He represents. While those component parts can be worn away, those that stand together can resist this universes corruption.
We have a say that goes along the lines of "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21
This is both a literal and metaphoric phrase. While the strong stand together in the light of the faith, the light of faith cannot stand alone. It finds strength from other believers, from other sources of Faith. The higher ideals our God comes to represent cannot be eroded by this galaxy as long as the Faithful hold God in their hearts. The collective whole of our Faith gives our ideals the strength to stand true against such eroding forces.
Indeed you do not. I suppose the title heretic is befitting more of the Sani Sabik than non believers. Though monotheism, I believe is unique to our people, though in this mans statements I see the ideals of a lone true God demeaned and perverted to represent mankind's Greed and violent nature.
This God of ISK as he calls it is a manifestation and perversion of what drives men and women, coupled with the pseudo religious belief in the power of as I have heard some call it "the Almighty ISK".
I believe the term heretic still applies to him, though not to someone like you. I find the Achruan sense of spirituality commendable, you are closer than many to God and you do not even know it.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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3753
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:34:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote: You should not treat mortals like playthings.
Who says I do? So what I like to mess around with some Matari dancers every now and then or get into fights at the pub. But it is all in good fun. Sure sometimes the fights do get a bit out of hand, but afterwards we drink together like real men. It is how I make myself feel alive. And no religion or God or dogma has ever given me that same satisfaction. You take yourself way to seriously Templar, how bout you come down to the strip club with me.
My experiences with Clubs are not good ones. Last time some psychopathic Gallentean took a hostage and almost killed Satja.....
((No seriously it happened RP like))
Not to mention it would violate the oaths I took.... not to mention be morally reprehensible.... fun is one thing... duty is another. Rather reluctantly I have to refuse.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:04:00 -
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Ubuu de Reide wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Like it says I use to be a Minmatar supporter how because I personally could relate but I was soon reborn as a pure Amarrian/Kameira clone to send death to all non-believers but I still hold true to my Minmatar ways. So you've adopted the faith of your slave-master. Eat up dog, these boot heels won't lick themselves. Do you even know anything about Amarrian slavery or are you pulling this out of your ass? I suspect the latter...
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:06:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
I'm afraid that's not quite correct.
The reason the Republic attacked was not because of the Brutor student (who was released without charge) but because of a racially motivated mass murderer called Gerne Broteau. He shot and killed a number of people at a Minmatar culture festival on Luminaire.
The Federation tried him. As a Gallente citizen committing crimes primarily against Gallente citizens in Gallente sovereign space, they believed they had every right to - and quite possibly they did. However, the Republic demanded custody of the man, and when he was not handed over they attacked with their dreadnoughts.
And as for the higher-ups being corrupt - As I said, the Federation is based on an ideal. That ideal is not a reality - we can only strive to be closer to that ideal. Nobody is truly perfect. As much as the Amarrians claim to be so, they aren't either. I would bet all of my ISK that there is significant corruption in the Empire. There is also corruption in the Caldari State, as evidenced by Tibus Heth.
The Republic could have cared less about Gerne Broteau if he hadn't killed Karin Midular. She was a noble woman, and worthy of respect. As one who would see our races united peacefully I lament her loss.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:44:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:True Adamance wrote:[quote=Jonny D Buelle][quote=Yun Hee Ryeon]Mr. Buelle:
And why should a God show itself. The purpose of the Faith is to believe, not to know for a certainty. Its is my Faith that armours me from doubt so that I do not fear the darkness of New Eden, nor do I know the uncertainties that the heathens do. Their is wisdom to be seen in that statement. Or folly. Perhaps God's intentions are not how I interpret them.... such is the nature of Faith.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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