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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:10:00 -
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So let me get this straight. You surrendered being a Matari merc and instead decided to join up with the Empire that enslaved your people for hundreds of years all because you found religion?
Well I guess some people like to be whipped to death by their slave drivers... |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 19:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:So let me get this straight. You surrendered being a Matari merc and instead decided to join up with the Empire that enslaved your people for hundreds of years all because you found religion?
Well I guess some people like to be whipped to death by their slave drivers... Again another ignorant slob shows up. The unkind treatment of slaves has been a crime since the later years of the reign of Emperor Heideran, after he was offered the Aldonis Statue for his role in galactic peacekeeping. Nocturnal firstly is not old enough to have known a time where the Amarr did beat their slaves, secondly it is something to be ashamed of to find a religion or a cause to fight for.
So they brain washed you too I see...
I do understand the need to find a cause to fight, however religion is one of those false ideals that will always instill hate and war amongst people. I could say I believe in a God that is totally different from yours and you will try and convert me which will cause me to hate you and take out my submachine gun and show you your insides.
Fighting for religion will not bring peace, but will create more hatred. |
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:43:00 -
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Clips A'hoy wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:So let me get this straight. You surrendered being a Matari merc and instead decided to join up with the Empire that enslaved your people for hundreds of years all because you found religion?
Well I guess some people like to be whipped to death by their slave drivers... Again another ignorant slob shows up. The unkind treatment of slaves has been a crime since the later years of the reign of Emperor Heideran, after he was offered the Aldonis Statue for his role in galactic peacekeeping. Nocturnal firstly is not old enough to have known a time where the Amarr did beat their slaves, secondly it is something to be ashamed of to find a religion or a cause to fight for. So they brain washed you too I see... I do understand the need to find a cause to fight, however religion is one of those false ideals that will always instill hate and war amongst people. I could say I believe in a God that is totally different from yours and you will try and convert me which will cause me to hate you and take out my submachine gun and show you your insides. Fighting for religion will not bring peace, but will create more hatred. This is no false ideal. You see the signs but you ignore them and that is the gravest sin of all. Do not talk blasphemy towards God or you will regret it at both death and on the battlefield.
My God and your God are different, if I blaspheme towards your God it should not hinder the standing with my God which should be the God of all mercs. That God being the all powerful and mighty Gun, and I pay tribute to my God by spilling blood and earning ISK. |
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Clips A'hoy wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Again another ignorant slob shows up.
The unkind treatment of slaves has been a crime since the later years of the reign of Emperor Heideran, after he was offered the Aldonis Statue for his role in galactic peacekeeping.
Nocturnal firstly is not old enough to have known a time where the Amarr did beat their slaves, secondly it is something to be ashamed of to find a religion or a cause to fight for.
So they brain washed you too I see... I do understand the need to find a cause to fight, however religion is one of those false ideals that will always instill hate and war amongst people. I could say I believe in a God that is totally different from yours and you will try and convert me which will cause me to hate you and take out my submachine gun and show you your insides. Fighting for religion will not bring peace, but will create more hatred. This is no false ideal. You see the signs but you ignore them and that is the gravest sin of all. Do not talk blasphemy towards God or you will regret it at both death and on the battlefield. My God and your God are different, if I blaspheme towards your God it should not hinder the standing with my God which should be the God of all mercs. That God being the all powerful and mighty Gun, and I pay tribute to my God by spilling blood and earning ISK. Then you are a heretic. I care not for your heathen gods as you would call them. I will punish you for turning your back on our one true God. A God that stands for something as meaningless as ISK is not god. As I have said there is only one, true god, and He has chosen the Amarr.
How did I turn my back on your God if I never believed in him? I have known of him, yes, but I have never believed nor followed the dogma instilled by your people. Ergo, I never turned my back on him. However if you believe that you must attempt to punish me, my machine gun and I would love to see you try.
As for my God of ISK and War being meaningless, in our world of immortality what else do we have left to gain but ISK. We have no need for an afterlife as we never die, so we must live in what we need now. |
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Posted - 2013.10.29 20:57:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Mr. Buelle:
With all respect to Tempar Crusader Ouryon, he does tend to draw the word "heretic" maybe a bit quickly. My impression is that he's spent pretty much all his life surrounded by other believers, so his first impulse upon encountering a blasphemous sort is to think, "heretic." After all, in a highly religious society such as the Empire, we heathens are relatively thin on the ground.
As for your god of ISK and war, I think-- I hope-- that what you're actually saying is that you see no real divinity in this world. There's a lot of despair, come to think of it, reflected even in the suggestion, half-joking or not, that we should worship these things that superficially define us.
What an empty existence that would be....
I do not worship war nor money nor death. It was all in jest. However I understand that to survive we must earn ISK and to earn it we must fight, and die. So by me saying that my god is War and ISK is me trying to reason with him that I do not believe in any god that doesn't provide. War provides me ISK and ISK provides me with my housing, my weapons, my dropsuits, food and many other things that would be otherwise out of my reach. This is the reality that I have to face and I have no need to put my hopes in a God that does not show his/herself to me nor provides for me. |
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Then you came of as lacking reason.
To jest at ones devoutly held belief is not reasonable, it is beneath you, and only sullies you name.
And why should a God show itself. The purpose of the Faith is to believe, not to know for a certainty. Its is my Faith that armours me from doubt so that I do not fear the darkness of New Eden, nor do I know the uncertainties that the heathens do.
I jest at everything. It keeps me from going off the deep end and murdering mortals.
As for lacking reasoning, I don't see how I do. I understand the way our existence works. We fight with everything we got on the ground as to better our Governments or Corperations and for a little bit of ISK. We use the ISK we earn to enchance our abilities through skillbooks or to by a few exotic dancers and have a few beers. Our existence is only to fight, kill, live, then die, only to be reborn to repeat the process. For this, I reason that your God does not exist outside of a book that was written by a man from an age long past. |
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: As if I needed another reason to hunt you.
I welcome the challenge |
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: You should not treat mortals like playthings.
Who says I do? So what I like to mess around with some Matari dancers every now and then or get into fights at the pub. But it is all in good fun. Sure sometimes the fights do get a bit out of hand, but afterwards we drink together like real men. It is how I make myself feel alive. And no religion or God or dogma has ever given me that same satisfaction.
You take yourself way to seriously Templar, how bout you come down to the strip club with me. |
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote: You should not treat mortals like playthings.
Who says I do? So what I like to mess around with some Matari dancers every now and then or get into fights at the pub. But it is all in good fun. Sure sometimes the fights do get a bit out of hand, but afterwards we drink together like real men. It is how I make myself feel alive. And no religion or God or dogma has ever given me that same satisfaction. You take yourself way to seriously Templar, how bout you come down to the strip club with me. My experiences with Clubs are not good ones. Last time some psychopathic Gallentean took a hostage and almost killed Satja..... ((No seriously it happened RP like)) Not to mention it would violate the oaths I took.... not to mention be morally reprehensible.... fun is one thing... duty is another. Rather reluctantly I have to refuse.
Well that Gallentean is no brother of mine, why ruin a good strip club. Come on mate, we will just have a few beers you don't even have to look at any of the very VERY under-dressed women. |
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Posted - 2013.10.30 08:37:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Well that Gallentean is no brother of mine, why ruin a good strip club. Come on mate, we will just have a few beers you don't even have to look at any of the very VERY under-dressed women. If that were what you actually intended, you could just take him out drinking. Ah, spirits ... men are men from Athra to Luminaire, and fools by extension, but Gallente display it more than most. I only need walk through one of your stations to know why the Caldari seceded.
Don't get me started on the Caldari succession. In will admit thought, in my opinion, the bombardment and occupation of Caldari Prime was a bit unnecessary. Instead we should of sought out the Caldari terrorists that were responsible for the death of millions of Gallentean civilians.
I am, however, in no way authorized to apologize on behalf of my government. |
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Posted - 2013.10.30 09:25:00 -
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Satja Askarin wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote: You should not treat mortals like playthings.
Who says I do? So what I like to mess around with some Matari dancers every now and then or get into fights at the pub. But it is all in good fun. Sure sometimes the fights do get a bit out of hand, but afterwards we drink together like real men. It is how I make myself feel alive. And no religion or God or dogma has ever given me that same satisfaction. You take yourself way to seriously Templar, how bout you come down to the strip club with me. My experiences with Clubs are not good ones. Last time some psychopathic Gallentean took a hostage and almost killed Satja..... ((No seriously it happened RP like)) Not to mention it would violate the oaths I took.... not to mention be morally reprehensible.... fun is one thing... duty is another. Rather reluctantly I have to refuse. Well that Gallentean is no brother of mine, why ruin a good strip club. Come on mate, we will just have a few beers you don't even have to look at any of the very VERY under-dressed women. Tempting as that is I am sure Kador has other plans at the Gymnasium with me.
Well you can always join us, the more the merrier! |
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