People complain about everything that kills them. If people used smgs that would be quickly become titled OP.

All the complaining you see comes from guys without any recent FPS experience IE a bunch of crying evetards that dont know whats up

No you all want this game to be like any recent FPS made. Its not. Quit treating it as such. We are just looking for balance, which none of the weapons have if you haven't noticed

No one is saying that though. It's just foolish to say the rifle is OP. It doesn't make any sense. The folks complaining are the ones who die often.

If it isn't the AR that kills them, it will be the MD, the flaylock, the sniper rifle...and then those things will be the next "it's OP" thread.

It's really nonsense.

Is the worst AR I ever used in any fps ive played and its baffleing to see people give it the op title. It does solid damage at medium range as it should. It is not a cqc weapon which it seems people want it to be. And a well fitted duvolle will destroy any standard fit (assuming thats what most people use) as it should. People complain about everything that kills them. If people used smgs that would be quickly become titled OP. That thing has slightly less range than a duvolle but will shred a heavy faster than any AR. So can we put the AR threads to rest now and and agree to just tone up the rest of the light weapons so they can be more viable options?

All the complaining you see comes from guys without any recent FPS experience IE a bunch of crying evetards that dont know whats up

Actauully have you seen Alldin's thread today? Or any of my post in the AR this, MD that threads? Some of us are truly looking for balance. All you guys see is the blatent whine threads, then make a blatent whine thread like this...

So I was running with this guy in my corp during a domination match; however, he decided to skill into mass drivers before the match started. He skilled into the basic mass driver without any complex damage mods or proficiency skills. He went 30-2 during that match...

Now tell me that you can do the same exact thing with the standard assault rifle. He claimed that he could not and I doubt any of you could either. Just saying...

So I was running with this guy in my corp during a domination match; however, he decided to skill into mass drivers before the match started. He skilled into the basic mass driver without any complex damage mods or proficiency skills. He went 30-2 during that match...

Now tell me that you can do the same exact thing with the standard assault rifle. He claimed that he could not and I doubt any of you could either. Just saying...

Is the worst AR I ever used in any fps ive played and its baffleing to see people give it the op title. It does solid damage at medium range as it should. It is not a cqc weapon which it seems people want it to be. And a well fit duvolle will destroy any standard fit (assuming thats what most people use) as it should. People complain about everything that kills them. If people used smgs that would be quickly become titled OP. That thing has slightly less range than a duvolle but will shred a heavy faster than any AR. So can we put the AR threads to rest now and and agree to just tone up the rest of the light weapons so they can be more viable options?

Is this why I've never seen you in a topic that mathematically debunks any claims that any non assault or non AR game mechanic isn't OP?

You take 16 nova knifing scouts with shotguns an SMgs an speed mods = op scouts

So I was running with this guy in my corp during a domination match; however, he decided to skill into mass drivers before the match started. He skilled into the basic mass driver without any complex damage mods or proficiency skills. He went 30-2 during that match...

Now tell me that you can do the same exact thing with the standard assault rifle. He claimed that he could not and I doubt any of you could either. Just saying...

Yea we see blatant whine threads when it comes to the AR. because most of the people complaining about it are the ones who are on the other side of it. The AR works as it is intended.

Like I said, you and many others are just running into guys like me whom have had several months (some if not a year) underneath our belts of using the AR.

So of course it seems OP when the user knows how to maximize its potential. Of course people complain about cooked nades when someone learned how to properly cook a pineapple.

AR doesn't need any nerfing.

LMAO ^

You don't either..

Matter of fact never seen you in PC either... who are you? RND? Been there, beat that...

You don't either..

Matter of fact never seen you in PC either... who are you? RND? Been there, beat that...

Mine's bigger.......

Is the worst AR I ever used in any fps ive played and its baffleing to see people give it the op title. It does solid damage at medium range as it should. It is not a cqc weapon which it seems people want it to be. And a well fitted duvolle will destroy any standard fit (assuming thats what most people use) as it should. People complain about everything that kills them. If people used smgs that would be quickly become titled OP. That thing has slightly less range than a duvolle but will shred a heavy faster than any AR. So can we put the AR threads to rest now and and agree to just tone up the rest of the light weapons so they can be more viable options?

it's not that the ar is good. it's that all the other weapons are worse.

I never even used a assault rifle till I started a new character two weeks ago , I ran a basically free fit with the covenant suit, exile AR an a toxin smg an went 24/2 on my 3rd match with under a million skill points , an ya the things easy mode to say the least

So can we put the AR threads to rest now and and agree to just tone up the rest of the light weapons so they can be more viable options?

LOL no ARS need somekind of nerf to make them as poop as every other gun it has everything it's to easy...and toneing down the ar threads i doubt.

I could go 30/2 with a toxin AR no problem, wtf are you smokin?
Its not about the gun its about the suit, i can stick 3 damage mods and still have 600ehp with armor&shield on my callogi or my calassault proto, which is enough to survive most everything and have insane DPS, i could do it with a STD mass driver, but instead i do it with a TAC AR dishing out 100+ damage per shot at ranges greater than an AR...