When i used a soma, the first things i noticed was the angle it's large turret can look at and its speed.

So, I know there are people out there that think a armor tank should be faster because gallente have mastered armor tech so they can move faster (not the case with infantry!).

It isn't that Armor should effect the Gallente less, it is that the Gallente are fast by nature and the Caldari are slow. These are their base racial characteristics. The Gallente are fast so that they still have some amount of speed if you use their preferred tank, while not choosing to do so makes them fast but fragile. Caldari are slow, but their shields do not slow them further.

I'm pretty sure shield tanks are faster, armor tanks just accelerate much quicker.

No, armour tanks are faster.

As it happens, shield tanks seem to be designed with teamwork in mind; specifically, spider tanking. The shield transporters are incredible when combined with shield's natural resistance.

Uh................................ there's propulsion moving Gallente ships and tanks. The dropsuits enhance the soldier's locomotion as well as greatly improve defense. Big difference between moving an accelerator and still having to put forward the effort to move.

They are not, I run a shield tank and I roll in a squad with armor. I can attest to this from a few games where I went spider tanking for another armor.

I could not come close to keeping up, and it bothered him because I also couldn't back up as quick as him, I was moving like a snail in his eyes. He told me once I'm backin out, and I say yeah I know man, been backin out for 5 seconds already.

Shields are slooow
Armor is FAST

I run my anti infantry fits with speed boosters, and even then armor can still outrun me, though not as quickly as without.

You're running remote armor reppers on a shield tank? You're doing it wrong.

Look, if you're baffled by why people would want armor to travel faster, it's likely either because A) they feel like armor is underpowered (probably people who specialized into infantry, armor HAVs are superior to shield HAVs at the moment) or B) they come from EVE Online. And really, if they come from EVE, it makes sense. Gallente have the second thickest armor plates of the four races, and in space, where there is no gravity to hold you down or air to slow you down, they've also got some of the quickest ships too. Fast and heavily armored isn't an oxymoron in space.

Gravity doesn't affect one's ability to accelerate, but mass. Their ships have more powerful engines than most others to accommodate a larger mass. Their tanking ability and speed in EVE is all balanced out with everything else, but Dust is just starting up and still trying to find balance. Unfortunately, having Gallente HAVs faster than Caldari simply makes it imbalanced, because the suppose style of the Caldari's hit and run can't be fulfilled due to a lower speed.

This lower speed would be justified if Caldari HAVs could fit passive tanks that are incredibly effective, but looks like CCP is pushing toward active tanking. But seriously, I want a passively tanked Gunnlogi as effective as a passively tanked Drake in EVE.

So, I know there are people out there that think a armor tank should be faster because gallente have mastered armor tech so they can move faster (not the case with infantry!).

To me this is insane, the way it works now with infantry is that the shields have far more mobility. Something changing 1.4 but that's the point isn't it.

All that armor weighing you down reduces movement speed.

The shields got nothing weighing them down, so max speed.

Though with vehicles the opposite is true.

Armor is much faster then shields

Shields much slower

To make the statement true of armor tankers, they would need less damage resist which is compensated with speed.

I think a lot of the imbalance comes from the fact that the roles of the 2 tanks are loosely set but not fully utilized.

Speed - hit and run

Resist - Armor

Speed of the 2 should be equal, but using plates reduces speed.

As is maddies have a speed of like 90 or something, and shields have 77.

With a plate a maddie matches a gunnlogi in speed.

What's the point of that speed reduction??

1.6 couldn't come sooner!

Higher base speed, after armor is applied the tank would be slower.

I run a Maddy, and I would prefer to be able to stay and fight than poke at the enemy and get away fast.

They need to just force the use of the appropriate racial weapon more.

A madrigar with a rail is going to be better than a Gunnlogi. But that is not the weapon the maddy is designed for. Therefore, it negates the Gunnlogi.

The Gunnlogi needs to be given it's role back as a long range artillery style tank. The maddy is how it is for up close blaster work. Being able to use the rail as easy as it can makes it effectively OP and makes it twice as survivable in a long range (particularly redline) role.

This is esp bad when using missiles on a Gunnlogi where you need to be at medium range. Missiles are for the shield tank and get bonuses from the advanced tank. Yet you can't take on an armor tank with a rail because it's damage mitigation for close range is that much better at medium range.

Whatever shall we do when the other racial tanks hit?